May 4, 201511 yr Terrible job by the Reds & the umpires. What a bad way to lose, but EVERYONE should know that rule.
May 4, 201511 yr Didnt seem to me the umpires clearly called Infield fly rule while the ball was in play.
May 4, 201511 yr Author Didnt seem to me the umpires clearly called Infield fly rule while the ball was in play. 1. Not required but.. 2. Third base umpire called it.
May 4, 201511 yr Didnt seem to me the umpires clearly called Infield fly rule while the ball was in play. The home plate umpire certainly did not -- I didn't watch to see if the other umpires called it or not. The home plate umpire actually called the runner from 3rd OUT, too. A calamity of errors...
May 5, 201511 yr Author As an umpire, you know you're having a discussion with one of the two teams when the fielder misses the ball. Guaranteed.
May 6, 201511 yr 1. Not required but.. 2. Third base umpire called it. What do you mean "Not required but". I don't think you can assume the infield fly rule, can you? Doesn't the umpire have to call it? The third base umpire clearly did.
May 6, 201511 yr Author What do you mean "Not required but". I don't think you can assume the infield fly rule, can you? Doesn't the umpire have to call it? The third base umpire clearly did. I am saying that the rulebook does not allow a team to say "hey, you didn't call the infield fly" if they end up in a situation they didn't like. Rulebook says the rule is "assumed." Where that becomes a problem is if the fly ball goes to the outfield and it's a judgement call regarding "ordinary effort."
May 6, 201511 yr Interesting. That is why I thought the umpire had to clearly call it...for the reason of your last sentence...where does the infield end and the outfield start if the umpire does NOT call anything??? I trust your rule book knowledge though.
May 6, 201511 yr Interesting. That is why I thought the umpire had to clearly call it...for the reason of your last sentence...where does the infield end and the outfield start if the umpire does NOT call anything??? I trust your rule book knowledge though. Ask the Braves. Infield fly ruling draws Braves' ire, sparks disruption | MLB.com
May 6, 201511 yr Author Interesting. That is why I thought the umpire had to clearly call it...for the reason of your last sentence...where does the infield end and the outfield start if the umpire does NOT call anything??? I trust your rule book knowledge though. Infield/outfield is not part of the rule. Rule simply says "ordinary effort" so a ball to the outfield could be an infield fly if the umpire feels the infielder has time to get there with "ordinary effort." With all of that said it sure makes your life easier as an umpire if you remember to signal it. The more you communicate calls the easier your life is.
May 6, 201511 yr Author Ask the Braves. Infield fly ruling draws Braves' ire, sparks disruption | MLB.com Infield fly is the correct call.
May 6, 201511 yr Infield fly is the correct call. You think that was the correct call in that situation? (Disclosure: I didn't open the link but I assume it's the playoff game against STL from a few years ago.)
May 6, 201511 yr Author You think that was the correct call in that situation? (Disclosure: I didn't open the link but I assume it's the playoff game against STL from a few years ago.) Correct and correct. If you watch the replay SS circles under it and gives the universal "I've got it" signal. He then runs forward thinking his LFer is going to get it. He could have had it. He camped under it. Meets my definition of "ordinary effort."
May 6, 201511 yr The call was correct based on the written rule but based on the purpose of the rule, it is not right. When the fielder is that far into the outfield, he cannot let it drop and get a double play. It would take too much time for him to throw that ball to third and then another to second for the double play.
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