April 28, 200620 yr Great use of money. Who needs computers for the kids when we can have ads on the school busses. :thumb: Or why hire more speech teachers when we can have open houses to recruit kids. Guess it's working for them. JCPS is among the best in the nation: http://www.jefferson.k12.ky.us/AboutUs/About.html Our District Three high schools--Eastern, Male, and Manual--made Newsweek magazine’s 2005 list of America’s Best High Schools. JCPS earned a 2004-05 Super System for Quality Schools designation for having all schools accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. JCPS was a national finalist for the 2003 Broad Prize for Urban Education. An independent panel of national education leaders analyzed the performance of more than 100 U.S. urban school districts and determined we were in the top five. The prize rewards public school systems that use creative, results-oriented approaches, and JCPS received $125,000 for student scholarships.
April 28, 200620 yr Let me add one thing. The programs mentioned above are great. But sometimes the money MUST be spent but it can only be spent on ONE child and not draw multiple childern. We have had students that are not capable of speaking, wear diapers and take one-on-one care. That is a program we MUST, SHOULD AND NEED to have. But that is a very costly program and is not a program a school would start to try and DRAW students to their schools. As far as putting all of these students in one school to concentrate, that does not work in a rural setting. State Law requires that public schools teach EVERY kid at THAT kids' level at the public school in the community the kid lives.
April 28, 200620 yr Guess it's working for them. JCPS is among the best in the nation: http://www.jefferson.k12.ky.us/AboutUs/About.html Our District Three high schools--Eastern, Male, and Manual--made Newsweek magazine’s 2005 list of America’s Best High Schools. JCPS earned a 2004-05 Super System for Quality Schools designation for having all schools accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. JCPS was a national finalist for the 2003 Broad Prize for Urban Education. An independent panel of national education leaders analyzed the performance of more than 100 U.S. urban school districts and determined we were in the top five. The prize rewards public school systems that use creative, results-oriented approaches, and JCPS received $125,000 for student scholarships. What about the other 18 High schools in Jefferson County? Is it a good program if 3 out of 21 or 14% is successful?
April 28, 200620 yr How many High Schools does JCPS have that WERE NOT mentioned in this article? JCPS means Jefferson County Public School System. You love to try and stir up the pot, don't you? Accept it. Competition is a good thing. Good for academics, good for athletics, good for the drama department, good for the community. If there's no competitiveness, schools will stay stagnant. There's no incentive to improve. They're going to be guaranteed the same number of students and get the same money no matter what. There's no incentive to make kids want to attend their school. But, if all you want is to make sure everyone gets the same mediocre education, that's fine. Glad I live in Jefferson County.
April 28, 200620 yr JCPS means Jefferson County Public School System. You love to try and stir up the pot, don't you? Accept it. Competition is a good thing. Good for academics, good for athletics, good for the drama department, good for the community. If there's no competitiveness, schools will stay stagnant. There's no incentive to improve. They're going to be guaranteed the same number of students and get the same money no matter what. There's no incentive to make kids want to attend their school. But, if all you want is to make sure everyone gets the same mediocre education, that's fine. Glad I live in Jefferson County. The bolded cracks me up. I left a management program of a retail chain and took a $15,000 CUT in pay to become a teacher and somehow competing against a neighboring school is the reason why I will want my students to learn. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA No concept of the reason why teachers teach.
April 28, 200620 yr How would this hurt, say, Warren Central? From what I hear the place is bigger than most DII NCAA schools, and is a PUBLIC SCHOOL...
April 28, 200620 yr The bolded cracks me up. I left a management program of a retail chain and took a $15,000 CUT in pay to become a teacher and somehow competing against a neighboring school is the reason why I will want my students to learn. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA No concept of the reason why teachers teach. This isn't about why teachers teach. This is about competition between schools being a good thing to increase the quality of education.
April 28, 200620 yr lbbc, when will you get it? You CHOOSE to live and teach in a rural county that WILL NEVER have the advantages that an urban area will have. The funding that you get will be there even if the doors are open to anyone. Would it be a bad move to team up with a major farming business in the area to create a program that could draw in students from a wider area? Is that something that isn't an option to PC? If it is something that the state allows USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE or quit complaining like a 5 year old that had a toy taken away...
April 28, 200620 yr This isn't about why teachers teach. This is about competition between schools being a good thing to increase the quality of education. You statement was that schools will improve with competition and that will be our motive as teachers to better schools. That is far from motivation for teachers. By nature, teachers in general are NOT the type to motivated this way. AND it drives me crazy dealing with my brethren because I am motivated that way.
April 28, 200620 yr You statement was that schools will improve with competition and that will be our motive as teachers to better schools. That is far from motivation for teachers. By nature, teachers in general are NOT the type to motivated this way. AND it drives me crazy dealing with my brethren because I am motivated that way. This is not about teachers. This is about administration and vision. As a teacher, you can only do so much. This is about looking toward the future as a school system, and seeking ways to improve instead of miring down in the now. I never said one thing about teachers.
April 28, 200620 yr lbbc, when will you get it? You CHOOSE to live and teach in a rural county that WILL NEVER have the advantages that an urban area will have. The funding that you get will be there even if the doors are open to anyone. Would it be a bad move to team up with a major farming business in the area to create a program that could draw in students from a wider area? Is that something that isn't an option to PC? If it is something that the state allows USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE or quit complaining like a 5 year old that had a toy taken away... I get it and we are arguing the same argument till the end. No matter how hard we work or what we do, we will never be on the same footing as an urban school or a private school (No matter that we are one of I believe only 2 districts in the state, public or private to produce a Nobel Prize winner). That has been my argument from the very beginning. What about those kids that HAVE zero interest in farming, LIKE ME when I was a student here. And you bring up a great point on the difference between a rural county and a county like Jefferson County. State law says that both have to educate all students at their level and all students can learn. Jefferson County can do that with MULTIPLE HS and it stays true to their task because it is all in Jefferson County. A rural school in a LOT of cases have one High School. So what Jefferson can do with multiple HS all has to be in our ONE HS.
April 28, 200620 yr This is not about teachers. This is about administration and vision. As a teacher, you can only do so much. This is about looking toward the future as a school system, and seeking ways to improve instead of miring down in the now. Have you heard of School Based Decision Making Committee that is comprised of ONE principal, THREE teachers and TWO parents. MOST decisions that are made in HS's about vision and direction is made through this committee. WHere does this committee get their information? From smaller committees that are comprised of teachers who do the research and present their recommendations to the committee. Trust me, I know, I have served many, many times on several committees.
April 28, 200620 yr Have you heard of School Based Decision Making Committee that is comprised of ONE principal, THREE teachers and TWO parents. MOST decisions that are made in HS's about vision and direction is made through this committee. WHere does this committee get their information? From smaller committees that are comprised of teachers who do the research and present their recommendations to the committee. Trust me, I know, I have served many, many times on several committees. That's fine, and obviously fine for your school system. I think that you are casting stones at the Jefferson County Public School system in error though. They've created a very different kind of system, and it's working for them. For you to cast aspersion upon their accomplishments is tantamount to bias.
April 28, 200620 yr That's fine, and obviously fine for your school system. I think that you are casting stones at the Jefferson County Public School system in error though. They've created a very different kind of system, and it's working for them. For you to cast aspersion upon their accomplishments is tantamount to bias. Schools can opt out of Sitebased but it is very hard to do and most schools in the state, I would guess that it is over 95%, have site based decision making. My recollection is that there are usually several Jefferson County schools at the very bottom of the CATS test scores.
April 28, 200620 yr Schools can opt out of Sitebased but it is very hard to do and most schools in the state, I would guess that it is over 95%, have site based decision making. My recollection is that there are usually several Jefferson County schools at the very bottom of the CATS test scores. That is one issue I have wondered about the open enrollment system. If a small handful of schools starts to excell in academics or sports, then every family in the area that is eligible is naturally going to want to send their children to those schools. Wouldn't that make the majority of the schools and small communities suffer?
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