This has been addressed before but I think the biggest reason that private schools are enjoying so much success in girls sports is because for many year the good ol' boys that ran public school sports in this state simply didn't care about girls sports. They started teams because they had to but looked for way to dodge Title IX instead of complying with it. Private schools (particularly girls schools) didn't have administrators that funded them with eye droppers while at the same time pouring buckets into boys programs. The private schools got ahead of the public schools in a large part because public schools wouldn't comply with the law until they were forced to.

This has been addressed before but I think the biggest reason that private schools are enjoying so much success in girls sports is because for many year the good ol' boys that ran public school sports in this state simply didn't care about girls sports. They started teams because they had to but looked for way to dodge Title IX instead of complying with it. Private schools (particularly girls schools) didn't have administrators that funded them with eye droppers while at the same time pouring buckets into boys programs. The private schools got ahead of the public schools in a large part because public schools wouldn't comply with the law until they were forced to.

Great post.

 

A great point of this is the middle school programs in a lot of rural communities. The MS girls programs are run in the fall. Moved there because no gym space was available in the winter. They thought, just girls they won't care to move.

 

Now it has become a benefit. MSers play in the fall, Aug-Nov and then Varsity Coaches move them up to freshmen teams in Nov. So the girls are getting to be with the coaches from Aug through Feb. Boys programs have become a little jealous of that when it started as a move to take advantage of the girls program.

Now to add a point to my post that you won't agree with.

 

I find it very disingenuous of these same administrators to now expect to be equal with the private schools when they spent so much time and effort keeping themselves from being on equal footing in the first place.

Now to add a point to my post that you won't agree with.

 

I find it very disingenuous of these same administrators to now expect to be equal with the private schools when they spent so much time and effort keeping themselves from being on equal footing in the first place.

In most cases, not the same administrators. Those decisions were made in the mid to late 80's. My school has had 3 different principals since then and my school system has seen 3 different superintendents since then. Not to mention at 3 different MS principals since then.

 

Also, site base is involved with the decision making now, that was not involved in the 80's.

Sorry if I was wrong, I will admit I personally haven't gotten a great look at the Franklin Co. program in awhile and was going off what some other people have said (which you are right, are from lexington, and many LCHS). I know Lex Cath does benefit from Good Shepard occassionally and the talent that comes out of that school. They compete against many of the parochials in Lexington in the parochial school bball league and have been solid the past few years. I believe a bigger hurt for Franklin can also just be its proximity to Lexington and the fact that some of that talent from there sees Lex Cath as perhaps a better way of really allowing them to showcase their talent and perhaps continue on to the next level of basketball. Whether that is accurate or not, it still is a perception many will see considering the comparison of Franklin's bball programs and their success, versus Catholic's. You're right, if Franklin wants to really change this trickle of talent to Lexington, they need to work to change this perception.\

 

I also apologize for saying sad shape, in hindsight, I probably mean more just the relative comparison between each program and the success difference. I had heard a rumor of unhappiness w/ the coach there I thought it was, which really affected the decision of where to go by Cash and one of the starters, I thought Davis but maybe Sickles. Course, rumors are rumors, and it was Catholic parents close to the program who said it. I also think im referring to Frankfort when speaking of that deal, not Franklin Co. High.

 

First let me correct you in that when I referred to Franklin County I was not talking about the program at Franklin County High School. I was referring to the entire county of Franklin. Within Franklin County are three schools, Franklin County High School, Frankfort High School and Western Hills.

 

Next let me say that I have alot of respect for what Lexington Catholic has done to bring its sports programs from a mediocrity at best in 1980 (I don't think they had a football team) to a perenial power in baseball, basketball, and football. Lexington Catholic is a fantastic success story. It is a great academic school as well.

 

You are correct that LC benefits from talent that is developed at Good Shepherd (Frankfort's Catholic grade and middle school). Names that come to mind are Johnson and Stamper. I beleive they played on a State title team. I believe the Stamper girl was Ms Basketball that year. Kelly Stamper has a younger sister at Good Shepherd right now that is going to be a good player. Most recently Cash is a nice player on the last two State title teams. A Good Shepherd Catholic girl that did not choose to attend LC was Anna Beth Logan who attended a public school and received a D1 scholarship but her career ended by knee injuries. Of the non-catholics that have recently attended LC you have Davis as you mentioned and for the boys team you have Brenden Woody and William Graham all players that started on LC teams that played in State Title games. You mentioned Good Shepherd girls having success in the parochial league. I don't think the GS teams Cash played for ever lost a game in three years. On the boys side in the last three years Good Shepherd has dominated. This past season Good Shepherd 5th/6th and 7th/8th grade teams went undefeated. LC's boys 8th grade middle school team started 4 kids from Frankfort, two from Good Shepherd and two from Capital Day ( a non-Catholic School).

 

My point here is that basketball is not in "sad shape" in Franklin County as young players have been and still are being developed.

 

Yes you are correct that in recent years LC has had more success than Frankfort Schools, but over the years Frankfort Schools are respectable. FCHS boasts three 11th regional boys titles in its history and one 11th regional girls title and state runner up. FHS boasts several 11th region boys class A titles. Football has not done so bad over the years either. Check the history. I even think the FCHS baseball team beat Lexington Catholic for an 11th regional title in recent years.

 

Bottom line is that there are perceptions on the street in Frankfort that are perpetuated that make LC an attractive alternative to the public schools in Frankfort. Some choose to commit to the 40 minute (at best) drive one way and that is from the east side of the county.

 

You don't have to attend Lexington Catholic to showcase your talent in order to get to the next level. If you compete in the 11th region and are good enough someone will notice.

 

If the programs in Frankfort want to keep the talent local they need to challenge the negative percetions and rumours that underthebridge admits to being talked about among LC faithful.

 

Besides if a non-catholic from Frankfort chooses to stay with a local public school they will save $6867.60 in tuition per year. Lets see, four years at that rate adds up to over $27,000 of after tax dollars. That would go a long way in helping paying for a college education.

 

Oh and by the way underthebridge, apology accepted.

^^^^^ This post above shows why the situation IMO is such a difficult one to hash out. The perceptions on both sides. UTB and FOT11th make great points. The kids comming from Good Shepherd in Frankfort are not always seen as comming from a feeder school by some, but more as stealing of Frankforts players. I thought that Davis was Catholic, and if so cannot be blamed for choosing to come to a Catholic High School, which is the best bargian as far as private high schools around. From what I have heard, a Catholic grade school education may be more expensive than a high school education. Some people (from LC, Dunbar, Scott Co. ect.) buy into negative perception about what is talked about in Franklin Co. Maybe the perception will swing to someone else, if Franklin Co. is doing the right thing. THats all the people there can truly ask for. Negativity will eventually give up the fight agianst good because it can't win unless good people let it win.

^^^^^ This post above shows why the situation IMO is such a difficult one to hash out. The perceptions on both sides. UTB and FOT11th make great points. The kids comming from Good Shepherd in Frankfort are not always seen as comming from a feeder school by some, but more as stealing of Frankforts players. I thought that Davis was Catholic, and if so cannot be blamed for choosing to come to a Catholic High School, which is the best bargian as far as private high schools around. From what I have heard, a Catholic grade school education may be more expensive than a high school education. Some people (from LC, Dunbar, Scott Co. ect.) buy into negative perception about what is talked about in Franklin Co. Maybe the perception will swing to someone else, if Franklin Co. is doing the right thing. THats all the people there can truly ask for. Negativity will eventually give up the fight agianst good because it can't win unless good people let it win.

 

I agree with you that some may view LC as stealing players from Frankfort. I do not view it this way. I view it as a choice that families in Frankfort are making. I have no problem with that. Davis I can quite confidently say is non- Catholic as I am quite sure that her family are not contributing parishoners at Good Shepherd Church. Her family obviously chose to pay the non-parishoner rate to attend LC. It was a great choice for her as a result of her fantastic career.

 

My point is that the Schools in Frankfort need to challenge these negative perceptions because many are simply not true. They need to promote the posatives with their programs in order to keep the quality Frankfort athletes local.

[ On the boys side in the last three years Good Shepherd has dominated. This past season Good Shepherd 5th/6th and 7th/8th grade teams went undefeated. LC's boys 8th grade middle school team started 4 kids from Frankfort, two from Good Shepherd and two from Capital Day ( a non-Catholic School).

 

 

 

I don't think this is correct. Good Shepherd was beaten by Bondurant (Western Hills' Middle School) this year in boys for sure and I think girls as well.

[ On the boys side in the last three years Good Shepherd has dominated. This past season Good Shepherd 5th/6th and 7th/8th grade teams went undefeated. LC's boys 8th grade middle school team started 4 kids from Frankfort, two from Good Shepherd and two from Capital Day ( a non-Catholic School).

 

 

 

I don't think this is correct. Good Shepherd was beaten by Bondurant (Western Hills' Middle School) this year in boys for sure and I think girls as well.

Refering to the parochial league as Good Shepherd is not a Middle Scool team. They split their teams up.

Catholic girls have so many brothers that they all grow up as Tomboys. That's my story and I am sticking to it!

there is more girls to play one sport or the different sports versus public schools where the same group plays all the sports.

there is more girls to play one sport or the different sports versus public schools where the same group plays all the sports.

This seems to be true.