So I will ask.......should the coach have pulled him out after the first card when Scott was up 2-0. mr t has a history of playing hard and receiving yellows.......

 

.......for the team.....take him out and protect him for future games.........

So I will ask.......should the coach have pulled him out after the first card when Scott was up 2-0. mr t has a history of playing hard and receiving yellows.......

 

.......for the team.....take him out and protect him for future games.........

You will ask and I will answer. The second goal did not come till after the second yellow card.

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Red card is two games in High school, doesn't matter if its a showcase. Might even be three games since it was his second within two weeks.

 

Multiple disqualifications in a high school career requires a review by the KHSAA. While it is highly improbable, if this player has a history of disqualifications, he COULD be ruled ineligle for the remainder of the season.

 

When Evan McDole played basketball for Brossart he was disqualified in a game with Louisville Trinity in the 5th/3rd Classic his junior year. SInce his primary sport was baseball, and he was being highly recruited, he/his family seriously considered having him sit out his senior basketball season, so as not to jepordize his senior baseball season, by receiving a second disqualification the following season. We were assured by the KHSAA that each case was reviewed on its own merits and that so long as it wasn't a flagrant disqualification he would be re-instated.

 

If Treadway has other disqualifications in his past history, I suggest that he be watching his Ps and Qs in the future.

You will ask and I will answer. The second goal did not come till after the second yellow card.

 

 

 

AH....Sorry SEF.....Read it the other way.......So I can see the game still in question at 1-0.....but it sounds as if Scott scored after he was out, so were they outplaying them without him...,

 

At what point should the coach protect him?

Multiple disqualifications in a high school career requires a review by the KHSAA. While it is highly improbable, if this player has a history of disqualifications, he COULD be ruled ineligle for the remainder of the season.

 

When Evan McDole played basketball for Brossart he was disqualified in a game with Louisville Trinity in the 5th/3rd Classic his junior year. SInce his primary sport was baseball, and he was being highly recruited, he/his family seriously considered having him sit out his senior basketball season, so as not to jepordize his senior baseball season, by receiving a second disqualification the following season. We were assured by the KHSAA that each case was reviewed on its own merits and that so long as it wasn't a flagrant disqualification he would be re-instated.

 

If Treadway has other disqualifications in his past history, I suggest that he be watching his Ps and Qs in the future.

 

 

Good points......but not sure it applies here. A double yellow is like fouling out in basketball. A straight red is the ejection......

Good points......but not sure it applies here. A double yellow is like fouling out in basketball. A straight red is the ejection......

 

Thanks for the clarification. With my limited knowledge of soccer idiosyncrasies, I should have refrained from commenting. My thoughts were that two yellows equaled a disqualification. Sounds like that assumption is true, but only pertaining to that particular match. Play on!

NFHS has special rules regarding any kind of contact with the keeper. I don't have my book with me, but the gist of it is - any contact with the keeper is a foul; contact that can be perceived as being dangerous is a card.

 

It's one of the differences between NFHS rules which govern HS soccer and USSF/FIFA laws which govern most other soccer matches.

NFHS has special rules regarding any kind of contact with the keeper. I don't have my book with me, but the gist of it is - any contact with the keeper is a foul; contact that can be perceived as being dangerous is a card.

 

It's one of the differences between NFHS rules which govern HS soccer and USSF/FIFA laws which govern most other soccer matches.

 

How can this be true. Would you ever be able to call a foul on a keeper then? I think we are missing part of this puzzle.

 

A second caution is treated as all other red cards in soccer, not the same as fouling out in BB.

 

Still two games, still goes on disqualification report.

How can this be true. Would you ever be able to call a foul on a keeper then? I think we are missing part of this puzzle.

 

A second caution is treated as all other red cards in soccer, not the same as fouling out in BB.

 

Still two games, still goes on disqualification report.

 

I do think this rule needs to be looked into. I get they're trying to protect the keeper. I get the perception of contact being dangerous (same is applied to players).... but how many times have you seen a keeper initiate the contact and they get the call? What about the 50/50 ball in the air when both jump straight up and there is contact on both parties?

How can this be true. Would you ever be able to call a foul on a keeper then? I think we are missing part of this puzzle. .

 

NFHS Rule 12-3-2

"A player shall not, in any manner, charge the goalkeeper in the penalty area unless the goalkeeper is obstructing the player or dribbling the ball with the feet."

 

There's a bit more than that, but the way it was interpreted when I reffed in KY and now that I ref here in FL is that if the keeper is going for the ball to make a save, he/she can not be touched by the opposing team. Any contact is a foul - up to the ref to decide whether to (a) play on (b) just call a foul or © call a foul and issue a yellow or red card depending on the severity of the contact

 

You can still call a foul on the keeper if, in the ref's opinion, the keeper went out to play the person instead of the ball. Keeper's don't have carte blanche to just go charging through their opponents, or to come out and kick/pull/push/jump into anyone to get to the ball. They're just more protected under NFHS when they are making a legitimate play on the ball in a save situation (because they will tend to be in a potentially compromising/dangerous position when doing so).

 

I'm an ex-keeper so I like the extra protection afforded by the NFHS rule; I would certainly understand why attacking players would not like it as much.

It says they can't "charge" a GK. Isn't a charge a foul anyway?

 

Also, how can you tell if the keeper is going to end up playing with the hands vs feet until they touch the ball. Seems like there is plenty of wiggle room to call this like real soccer and not the NFHS version.

Red card is two games in High school, doesn't matter if its a showcase. Might even be three games since it was his second within two weeks.

 

I just looked at KHSAA site, suspended 2 matches.

It says they can't "charge" a GK. Isn't a charge a foul anyway?

 

Also, how can you tell if the keeper is going to end up playing with the hands vs feet until they touch the ball. Seems like there is plenty of wiggle room to call this like real soccer and not the NFHS version.

 

I think the NFHS version is better for the High School game... only because you have a wide range of skill sets, and soccer knowledge, when it comes to a High School match.

I think the NFHS version is better for the High School game... only because you have a wide range of skill sets, and soccer knowledge, when it comes to a High School match.

 

Here is my on;ly issue with this.....example happened in the Dixie CCH game. Restart ball played in the air to the CCH midfielder......Keeper came charging out. CCH player went straight up....or pretty much straight because the ball was directed at him.......The keeper came charging, initiated contact in the air (remember...keeper ran about 8 yards to get the ball), no one touched the ball because of the contact.......foul on the CCH guy......

Here is my on;ly issue with this.....example happened in the Dixie CCH game. Restart ball played in the air to the CCH midfielder......Keeper came charging out. CCH player went straight up....or pretty much straight because the ball was directed at him.......The keeper came charging, initiated contact in the air (remember...keeper ran about 8 yards to get the ball), no one touched the ball because of the contact.......foul on the CCH guy......

 

I agree that this is an incorrect call... If I understand the rule correctly this could be a foul on the goalie... if the ref is willing to call it, is a whole different story though.