June 4, 201412 yr Why are you so sure that shutting down a third of coal-fired power plants will not cause energy prices to soar and harm the economy? Obama predicted that utility rates would skyrocket but you seem to believe that he was mistaken. Is that right? Didnt say I was sure. Asked why this will be different than every other predicted catastrophe.
June 5, 201412 yr Here's a good article explaining the plan. As it points out KY has to cut its emission by 18%. Not going to be easy. A step-by-step guide to how the EPA's climate rule works - Vox
June 5, 201412 yr Author Here's a good article explaining the plan. As it points out KY has to cut its emission by 18%. Not going to be easy. A step-by-step guide to how the EPA's climate rule works - Vox Kentucky's cut is one of the lowest. Step 7 is ominous: [h=3]7) If any state refuses to comply, the EPA will step in[/h] I analogize for the overly graphic and probably overly broad characterization of the EPA in the opening post. But the EPA definitely has become a ruthless enforcer of policy. The last paragraph of this sections even shows that. "Many utilities and power companies are likely to resist the law initially and file lawsuits to block it," says Kyle Aarons, a senior fellow with the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions. "But if it becomes clear that the EPA does have the authority to do this, then many of those companies will probably prefer that the state implements a plan rather than the EPA. It's generally in the state's own interest to come up with their own plan." Emphasis added.
June 5, 201412 yr Author It is a time to take a deep CO2-ladened breath and understand: 1. CO2 concentrations are currently as high or higher than any models predicted in IPCC models. 2. ALL IPCC (the international organization that has driven this agenda) models that used CO2 as a primary driver to climate change - especially it its role of warming the planet - have failed and are now all but proven failures. Every one. 3. Increased CO2 has not been shown to cause specific harm. 4. Reports shows that the US currently contributes less than 1/7th of all CO2 worldwide emissions. At current projections this will drop to around 1/10th in the next 5 or so years. 5. The US has actually reduced its emissions in the last few years with only a very small predicted increase in the future. 6. Even if the US cuts CO2 emissions as the EPA calls for the worldwide rate of increase of CO2 emissions will still grow - and grow substantially. 7. China now contributes over 50% more CO2 than the US. In the near future China will contribute twice the amount of CO2 that the US does since China's emissions will grow while the US emissions are flat. 8. When normalized against GDP the US is well down on the list of CO2 emissions compared to many other countries. 9. Us of natural gas - the current direction for many power companies - still results in CO2 emissions. It is less than coal, but it is still significant. Natural gas in no way eliminates CO2 emissions. From the above the following can be concluded: 1. CO2 as primary 'greenhouse gas' is a falsehood. 2. Action by the US - even this radical action - will not address planet wide future CO2 levels to any degree. CO2 emissions will increase - radically increase - regardless of US action.
June 6, 201412 yr Kentucky's cut is one of the lowest. Step 7 is ominous: [h=3]7) If any state refuses to comply, the EPA will step in[/h] I analogize for the overly graphic and probably overly broad characterization of the EPA in the opening post. But the EPA definitely has become a ruthless enforcer of policy. The last paragraph of this sections even shows that. "Many utilities and power companies are likely to resist the law initially and file lawsuits to block it," says Kyle Aarons, a senior fellow with the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions. "But if it becomes clear that the EPA does have the authority to do this, then many of those companies will probably prefer that the state implements a plan rather than the EPA. It's generally in the state's own interest to come up with their own plan." Emphasis added. I think this is generally true, that the power companies would prefer a state plan over the iron fist of the jack booted EPA. I also agree that there will likely be lawsuits to delay the actions, that has been the historical precedent with the past issues. I just really think most people don't know what the truth about emissions is and they just go along blindly like sheep off a cliff.
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