You need to let your obsession with Brady go my man, it can't be healthy. :lol2:

Still ignoring the other post?

Brady did not play well yesterday, he didn't play well in the last couple Super Bowls. That's not a secret. Everyone knows it, including me. I'm able to be rationale, which is more than can be said about you.

 

Oh, I see. It's ok for you to say Brady didn't play well, but it's not ok for me to say the same.

Gotcha lol

That is my point uk.

I don't think Brady played all that bad. In 07 he was 29-48 266 yards 1 TD 0INT.

 

In 2011 he was 27-41, 276 yards 2td 1int.

 

The Giants defense played great in both games and had the perfect game plan in both games. The Pats chances wouldn't have been any better with out Brady. In fact they would have been much worse.

Yeah, but to be fair if it were Peyton that lost, a lot of people on here would be slamming him much worse. A lot of anti Peyton people on this board over the years. I also recall a lot of Cowboys haters over the years as well, not just the last few years. People hate who they hate, love who they love. Nothing obsessive about that.

And you need to explain your hypocriscy so I can try and follow what you mean. I say Brady played bad in those 2 games as well as yesterday's game and you jump down my throat, and then you say the exact same thing. You're a hypocrite.

 

I'm not a hypocrite, you need to comprehend better. Had you said, "Brady hasn't played well the last two Super Bowls", I'd have agreed with you. You didn't say he played bad, you said and I quote: "If you take away Brady maybe New England wins those games.", implying that he was the reason they lost, which is so completely ridiculous of a statement that it didn't even warrant further discussion. Only way anyone would think they had a better chance of winning without Brady is if a) that person knows nothing about football, b) that person has such a blind hatred for Brady that they make ridiculous statements that no one in their right mind would believe, or c) that person is delusional.

 

My guess is you're B...

 

You don't like my posts, ignore me.

No, it says what you said was so ridiculous, that it was clear a logical and rationale debate was out of your element, so it's pointless to continue with the conversation.

 

Brady did not play well yesterday, he didn't play well in the last couple Super Bowls. That's not a secret. Everyone knows it, including me. I'm able to be rationale, which is more than can be said about you.

 

Oh, I see. It's ok for you to say Brady didn't play well, but it's not ok for me to say the same.

Gotcha lol

 

I'm not a hypocrite, you need to comprehend better. Had you said, "Brady hasn't played well the last two Super Bowls", I'd have agreed with you. You didn't say he played bad, you said and I quote: "If you take away Brady maybe New England wins those games.", implying that he was the reason they lost, which is so completely ridiculous of a statement that it didn't even warrant further discussion. Only way anyone would think they had a better chance of winning without Brady is if a) that person knows nothing about football, b) that person has such a blind hatred for Brady that they make ridiculous statements that no one in their right mind would believe, or c) that person is delusional.

 

My guess is you're B...

 

You don't like my posts, ignore me.

I did say that, thanks. You can not garuntee if Brady was yanked in those 2 games that New England losses. You can't garuntee that at all so,why try? Shoot when Brady went down for,the season the backup was able to win 11 games. So you can't say they would of done worse. They couldn't of done worse because they lost those 2 games WITH Brady.

I did say that, thanks. You can not garuntee if Brady was yanked in those 2 games that New England losses. You can't garuntee that at all so,why try? Shoot when Brady went down for,the season the backup was able to win 11 games. So you can't say they would of done worse. They couldn't of done worse because they lost those 2 games WITH Brady.

 

So if I said, if you take away Manning, maybe Indianapolis wins the Super Bowl against the Saints, you'd agree me?

So if I said, if you take away Manning, maybe Indianapolis wins the Super Bowl against the Saints, you'd agree me?

If Manning was playing bad then why not? To be so arrogant as you are when it comes to Brady and to think no one can ever do better than Brady is just stupid. When you make statements saying anyone who thinks anyone can do better than Brady just doesn't know football is pretty damn arrogant and more reason to root for them losing if you ask me.

 

You do know that sometimes when the starter is taken out the backup actually does win games don't you? It's not impossible.

If Manning was playing bad then why not? To be so arrogant as you are when it comes to Brady and to think no one can ever do better than Brady is just stupid. When you make statements saying anyone who thinks anyone can do better than Brady just doesn't know football is pretty damn arrogant and more reason to root for them losing if you ask me.

 

You do know that sometimes when the starter is taken out the backup actually does win games don't you? It's not impossible.

 

Stop putting words in my mouth. It's pathetic. Just stop. I never said no one can ever do better than Brady. Hell I said in the game thread that he played his poorest game of the season yesterday. Do you even try to read what I post? Where the hell did I say that no one can ever do better than Brady?

 

Yes, if someone realistically thinks Ryan Mallet could've came into the Super Bowl as a rookie, without having seen a regular season snap, and would've given them a better shot at winning than Tom Brady, yes, that person don't know a thing about football. You can call that arrogant all you want, I call it basic common sense.

 

Serious question, what is it that causes you to have such a deep hatred for Brady?

 

Serious question, what is it that causes you to have such a deep hatred for Brady?

He's the Justin Bieber of football?

He's the Justin Bieber of football?

 

:lol2: Okay, I'll admit that made me laugh. :thumb:

Stop putting words in my mouth. It's pathetic. Just stop. I never said no one can ever do better than Brady. Hell I said in the game thread that he played his poorest game of the season yesterday. Do you even try to read what I post? Where the hell did I say that no one can ever do better than Brady?

 

Yes, if someone realistically thinks Ryan Mallet could've came into the Super Bowl as a rookie, without having seen a regular season snap, and would've given them a better shot at winning than Tom Brady, yes, that person don't know a thing about football. You can call that arrogant all you want, I call it basic common sense.

 

Serious question, what is it that causes you to have such a deep hatred for Brady?

First off I didn't put words in your mouth. I also showed you where you said he o,ayed bad in those games including yesterday yet when I point out that fact you jump down my I think Brady gets way too much credit. ,the Pats defense won at least 2 of the 3 SB's yet you and others think it was all him. Ignore the facts that in the 3 runs to his 3 SB wins the defense avg only giving up 15 pts a game yet the runs after those 3 the defense gave up an avg of 24 pts or something like that and zero SB wins.

 

He plays in the easiest division in football yet is made out to be some god when in reality he is Avery good QB but one who hasn't won anything big because of him. The difference between him and Peyton is Peyton makes teams better while Brady needs a good team around him to be succesful.

Now back to the topic. I love what Wilbon just said on ESPN, Belichick is the most petiest coach of all time lol. He pointed out what I pointed out already and that is NE runs the pick play all the time, every team does, and for Billy to whine about it is a joke.

First off I didn't put words in your mouth. I also showed you where you said he o,ayed bad in those games including yesterday yet when I point out that fact you jump down my I think Brady gets way too much credit. ,the Pats defense won at least 2 of the 3 SB's yet you and others think it was all him. Ignore the facts that in the 3 runs to his 3 SB wins the defense avg only giving up 15 pts a game yet the runs after those 3 the defense gave up an avg of 24 pts or something like that and zero SB wins.

 

He plays in the easiest division in football yet is made out to be some god when in reality he is Avery good QB but one who hasn't won anything big because of him. The difference between him and Peyton is Peyton makes teams better while Brady needs a good team around him to be succesful.

 

I never called you out for saying he played bad. I called you out for the ignorant comment about how they could've possibly won the 2 SB's had they played the backup. HB20 agreed with me. To suggest the other QB on their roster would've given them a better chance to win those games is just plain ridiculous.

 

You said I said no one could ever do better than Brady...Show me where I said that. I never did, that is what putting words in someone's mouth means. Attributing things they didn't say to them.

 

Brady doesn't make teams better??? Did you not watch this season? He had nothing to do with a bunch of misfits going 12-4 and making the AFC Title game? You can't seriously believe that.

 

 

I really think I'm dumber for dignifying anything in this thread with a response. I'm out.

I never called you out for saying he played bad. I called you out for the ignorant comment about how they could've possibly won the 2 SB's had they played the backup.

Notice the POSSIBLY could of won? Yet you are saying that is impossible. That is ignorant.

I didn't see it as a dirty play. The .gif that was posted earlier in this thread looks like it backs up Welker's claim that he was trying to make Talib go over the top and Talib tried to make him go over the top. Right before contact they turn towards the LOS.