Boone Co schools won't allow MS to play up but I believe both Beechwood & Highlands have strong MS that will be part of Varsity but not sure how strong??

 

To clarify, Boone county "HS" doesn't move MS players up to varsity; however, Conner/Cooper/Ryle allow it.

 

The "unwritten" rule at Conner is/was, a MS 'er can move up to Varsity "IF" they are good enough to play significant minutes. It's not fair the the player to sit the bench and also not fair to take a HS roster spot from another kid that's perfectly capable of sitting the bench.

Highlands for the first time ever this year has implemented an internal rule that no middle schoolers may play up on high school teams unless grandfathered in.

 

I know middle schooler's were not allowed to play varsity until Coach Richey fought to allow it and won. It was her first year as HHS coach.

There is no KHSAA rule in basketball for how many years a kid can play on varsity. You regularly have ms girls at small schools play varsity for 6 years. The rule actually is that they only have 4 years after they enter high school. The new ms rules apply to next years 6th graders and the grades behind them playing up on the high school level. If they are not on a freshman high school roster this year "grandfathering" them in then they will not be able to participate in 2014-15. For most this is not a problem but for the small schools, it can be. I disagree with the sitting on the bench and not getting anything out of it, for I would expect that they are getting to practice everyday with the older girls.

This is just another attempt to lay a blanket over ALL for the FEW that need to be covered.

I think its one of those situations that is case by case basis. I don't have a problem with it but if my kid was asked to play up but wouldn't necessarily be getting substantial game time, I'd rather they play with their peers. Practice time is one thing but nothing can replace Varsity game experience. To those that say it isn't fair to older players when young talent moves up & takes a position, I say that's life get use to it!!!

I know middle schooler's were not allowed to play varsity until Coach Richey fought to allow it and won. It was her first year as HHS coach.

 

Coach Richey played varsity as a MS kid. So did many others before and after her.

I believe it is a really good thing for the ms to play up in all aspects of the game; as far as being a trainer, sitting the bench during the regular season, having a few minutes , or even being a significant roll player. Our program allows our student\athletes at the ms level play up if, and only if they (the ms) can keep their studies above our district avg. (82%) or up, and keep "clear conduct" of any infractions then it is possible for the ms to play up.

 

It would seem that the state feels the same way about our STUDENT\ATHLETE bc they (the state) sure don't try to stop the "student" from taking AP classes and receive college credits right? Instead we incourage them to do it if they can, bc it is good for the students education and looks even better for the school and state.

 

Pressure burst pipes!!! And any time you can relieve some pressure, like being in a big crowd or a hostel crowd early will help bc theres not that many surprises coming from all directions, guess that is why they allow early ACT test, right?

I believe it is a really good thing for the ms to play up in all aspects of the game; as far as being a trainer, sitting the bench during the regular season, having a few minutes , or even being a significant roll player. Our program allows our student\athletes at the ms level play up if, and only if they (the ms) can keep their studies above our district avg. (82%) or up, and keep "clear conduct" of any infractions then it is possible for the ms to play up.*

 

It would seem that the state feels the same way about our STUDENT\ATHLETE bc they (the state) sure don't try to stop the "student" from taking AP classes and receive college credits right? Instead we incourage them to do it if they can, bc it is good for the students education and looks even better for the school and state.

 

Pressure burst pipes!!! And any time you can relieve some pressure, like being in a big crowd or a hostel crowd early will help bc theres not that many surprises coming from all directions, guess that is why they allow early ACT test, right?

 

Excellent Point!!! I also think that size should be considered as well when it comes to young ones moving up!! Varsity is physical & kids that are smaller & not finished growing can sustain injuries that can/will effect future development!!! This is mostly seen in soccer/track/cross country but not limited. A stress fracture at 11 can effect growth plates & will be a re-injury risk from then on!!! I still think to make it a "rule" & prevent MS from playing up would be pointless & extremely hard to police. It would also make it hard for small schools to create a real program!!

To clarify' date=' Boone county "HS" doesn't move MS players up to varsity; however, Conner/Cooper/Ryle allow it. The "unwritten" rule at Conner is/was, a MS 'er can move up to Varsity "IF" they are good enough to play significant minutes. It's not fair the the player to sit the bench and also not fair to take a HS roster spot from another kid that's perfectly capable of sitting the bench.[/quote']

 

This is a totally incorrect statement. It's a Boone county schools rule.

This is a totally incorrect statement. It's a Boone county schools rule.

 

To clarify the county will only allow a pull up if they are on the varsity roster. If the freshman team only had say 8 players they are not even allowed to pull up freshman to fill in the roster.

To clarify the county will only allow a pull up if they are on the varsity roster. If the freshman team only had say 8 players they are not even allowed to pull up freshman to fill in the roster.

That's exactly why this "rule" is silly!! It would make more sense to me to allow MS to "play up" a year than to jump 4 years!! It is very rare to have a player with talent, size & ability to play at a Varsity level but could benefit from Freshmen or JV level!! I doubt that move would be as controversial either!!

That's exactly why this "rule" is silly!! It would make more sense to me to allow MS to "play up" a year than to jump 4 years!! It is very rare to have a player with talent' date=' size & ability to play at a Varsity level but could benefit from Freshmen or JV level!! I doubt that move would be as controversial either!![/quote']

 

Totally agree!

Totally agree!

 

Do these kids also continue to play with their Middle School teams?

Very rare to see that and usually only if there is a numbers issue. Any of the players from the schools noted in this thread only played up and did not play with their class at the time. However, recently a school like Newport had a few very talented younger ladies that had the ability to play up and I think started playing, started and logged varsity minutes. They also had some MS playing in freshman and JV. However, because of the size of the school and the low number of girls that plat Bball, I believe that most of the same girls made up the 7th and 8th grade teams as well. If they didn't, i don't think they had enough for a team.

Do these kids also continue to play with their Middle School teams?

 

I'm pretty sure it's one team or the other which I imagine causes problems for the MS teams. I know Newport ended up having to forfeit 8th grade games because players were trying to do both & teams complained. It's too much in my opinion for kids to be expected to play both!!

This is a totally incorrect statement. It's a Boone county schools rule.

 

Yep, I stand corrected! I dealt with this a few years ago and failed to remember a few details of the battle. The biggest hurdle by far was the MS principal.

I'm pretty sure it's one team or the other which I imagine causes problems for the MS teams. I know Newport ended up having to forfeit 8th grade games because players were trying to do both & teams complained. It's too much in my opinion for kids to be expected to play both!!

 

Two years ago, we had 7th and 8th graders playing their MS schedule and then playing Frosh and JV. Last year, the girls in that 7th grade class (now 8th grade), played their MS schedule, some Frosh and all JV and Varsity games. It was all coordinated between the MS and HS coaches. These girls made major contributions on the varsity level and will contend for starting positions as Frosh this year. The only reason they didn't dress varsity as 7th graders is because we had 7 seniors on that team.