Clyde, I'm guessing you either don't own a dog or you're not an animal lover....

So you come home and the house is on fire. Your GF/wife is sleeping upstairs. The entire upper half of the house is engulfed ie you can't play hero and go get her.

 

Fire dept gets there later than they could have because of the dog.

 

You're cool with that? Your GF/wife dies and you are saying you wouldn't be upset?

 

I don't have an upstairs. :idunno:

 

If the entire upper half is engulfed in flames when I get home, and she's still sleeping, I'm 100% sure by the time the fire department got there, it'd be too late even if they were responding straight from the fire department.

How do you know they are later because of the dog?

 

In fact, they're already out and in the truck...what if the dog made them respond faster? They're not sleeping. They dont have to wake up and get dressed. They're dressed and ready to go...

 

All it takes is..."hey guys we gotta go..,house on fire at...,"

 

The dog is stuck in a pond in the woods. They can't drive their trucks all the way to the pond. They have to walk a 1/2 mile to get to the dog. They bring some equipment with them in case they need it.

 

So now they have to a)get out of the water b)pack up their equipment and c)run a 1/2 mile to the truck. Plus they're farther away from your house.

 

You know what's going on while all of that is going on?

 

Your house us burning. You may have injuries. You may have someone trapped in the burning house.

FYI, just talked to my friend who is a fire fighter, and he says the fire fighters were right to do what they did.

 

Said they respond to these kind of calls more than people think. Said they go, and the fire chief immediately gets the volunteer FF'ers to come in.

 

Yes, they can obviously "move on" but every minute it takes them to pack up their stuff and for every extra minute it takes to get to your house the chance for considerable property damage and potential death for humans rises.

 

For a dog.

 

Pack up what exactly?

 

And if they're at the station don't they gotta get dressed? Like I said earlier, what if the dog call makes them closer to another call? We can play the if game all day.

I don't have an upstairs. :idunno:

 

If the entire upper half is engulfed in flames when I get home, and she's still sleeping, I'm 100% sure by the time the fire department got there, it'd be too late even if they were responding straight from the fire department.

 

Right.

 

The dog is stuck in a pond in the woods. They can't drive their trucks all the way to the pond. They have to walk a 1/2 mile to get to the dog. They bring some equipment with them in case they need it.

 

So now they have to a)get out of the water b)pack up their equipment and c)run a 1/2 mile to the truck. Plus they're farther away from your house.

 

You know what's going on while all of that is going on?

 

Your house us burning. You may have injuries. You may have someone trapped in the burning house.

 

Is the scenario presented the same one that you mentioned in post one? Or are you changing it to support your argument?

Is the scenario presented the same one that you mentioned in post one? Or are you changing it to support your argument?

 

:lol: Like you don't already know the answer to that one.

 

:lol: Like you don't already know the answer to that one.

 

:lol:

Clyde, I'm guessing you either don't own a dog or you're not an animal lover....

 

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Pack up what exactly?

 

And if they're at the station don't they gotta get dressed? Like I said earlier, what if the dog call makes them closer to another call? We can play the if game all day.

 

No game to play. Fire MUST be available when they are needed for fires and/or human injuries. We can't risk property damage or human life for the sake of a dog that wandered into a frozen lake. We pay firemen to be available. We want them to be sitting around JUST IN CASE they are needed for a real emergency.

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Grew up with dogs. Loved them. Cried when they died.

 

I also realize they are secondary to human life.

 

No game to play. Fire MUST be available when they are needed for fires and/or human injuries. We can't risk property damage or human life for the sake of a dog that wandered into a frozen lake. We pay firemen to be available. We want them to be sitting around JUST IN CASE they are needed for a real emergency.

 

They were available. It wasn't something they couldn't drop and move on.

 

Again, do you KNOW that they didn't have other firefighters available as well?

Cops are responding to a noise complaint at a party. While there they get a call about a domestic distubrance that was right where they were previously, before the noise complaint. They high-tail it to deal with the DD, only to find one of the people has killed the other. If it weren't for that stupid noise complaint they would have been their in plenty of time to end the spat without the loss of life. Guess we need to eliminate noise complaint's from a cops list of duties.

Is the scenario presented the same one that you mentioned in post one? Or are you changing it to support your argument?

 

I responded to your argument that "maybe" it was something simple. Maybe they could get there faster.

 

I've changed nothing when it comes to the main point.

 

So take the example I just gave you. You're cool with your loved one potentially dying because it took longer for them to get there because of the dog? Simple question.