Ky HS Baseball Association April 19 Poll

[Theoldguy]

Kentucky High School Baseball Coaches Association Poll - April 19, 2012

 

1. Male 14-1

2. Lexington Catholic 18-3

3. St. Xavier 17-4

4. Bowling Green 14-0

5. Bryan Station 12-5

6. Central Hardin 14-4

7. Lafayette 11-4

8. Eastern 18-5

9. Danville 14-2

10. Madison Central 14-3

11. Apollo 13-4

12. West Jessamine 15-1

13. Pleasure Ridge Park 11-6

14. Covington Catholic 15-1

15. Christian Academy-Louisville 9-7

16. Tates Creek 7-7

17. Lone Oak 18-3

18. Woodford County 14-3

19. Lexington Christian 9-7

20. Trinity 7-11

21. Harrison County 11-4

22. Ballard 10-6

Franklin County 13-5

24. Henry Clay 11-4

25. Glasgow 15-3

North Laurel 11-3

Others Receiving Votes - Bullitt East, Bishop Brossart, Paul Laurence Dunbar, Muhlenberg County, Martha Layne Collins, Henderson County, Union County, Butler, Hancock County, Powell County, Russell County, Hazard, LaRue County

[Oldtimebaseball84]

The Coaches down state forget we have teams up here unless they receive a lot of press or go down there and beat teams...(then they rank NKY to justify their own losses.)

 

Example: Trinity ranked #20 with a record of 7 - 11 (actually 7 - 13)...... Ryle beat them 6-2 earlier in the year. Others on the list could be argued.

 

Happens in other sports also.....

[cooperstown]

The Coaches down state forget we have teams up here unless they receive a lot of press or go down there and beat teams...(then they rank NKY to justify their own losses.)

 

Example: Trinity ranked #20 with a record of 7 - 11 (actually 7 - 13)...... Ryle beat them 6-2 earlier in the year. Others on the list could be argued.

 

Happens in other sports also.....

 

Don't disagree with your point at all, though in Trinity's defense they have played a brutal schedule (not sure of quality of teams they played from TN). If someone in the state has played a tougher schedule to date, I'd love to see it.

[cooperstown]

Would think CCH will be making a push for the Top Ten in the next poll - and well-deserved. Will get a chance to make a nice statement this weekend with games against ranked teams Ballard and Bryan Station and a respectable Daviess County team.

[REW2]

The Coaches down state forget we have teams up here unless they receive a lot of press or go down there and beat teams...(then they rank NKY to justify their own losses.)

 

Example: Trinity ranked #20 with a record of 7 - 11 (actually 7 - 13)...... Ryle beat them 6-2 earlier in the year. Others on the list could be argued.

 

Happens in other sports also.....

 

I agree that Trinity with a 7-13 record should not be in the top 25 but they have played 9 top 25 teams and 7 of those loses came from top 25 teams.

Don't blame the coaches from"down state" for NKY not having ranked teams, blame the NKY coaches for not playing harder schedules.

Ryle is one of the few teams that play top 25 teams. (they have 4 loses and only 2 wins)

And even the top rated team in NKY, Cov Cath with a 21-1 record, has not played a top 25 team. Thats why they are not rated higher.

[Oldtimebaseball84]

Point taken......This weekend shoud help with the rankings........Bryant Station #8, Ballard #15.....

[Clyde]

Cov Holy Cross just beat #9 Danville 7-1 and I think it was with their #2 pitcher.

[cooperstown]

Cov Holy Cross just beat #9 Danville 7-1 and I think it was with their #2 pitcher.

 

Exactly the reason I wish more NKY teams would consistently schedule "down state" opponents. As REW2 pointed out, NKY teams just don't generally schedule many teams outside this area, which is a shame. First off, you want to play the best competition you can - it's how you get better and how you gauge your own abilities/talents. Secondly, it gives you a chance to see different teams and the teams that the coaches feel are the best in the state. Lastly, it gives these other coaches/teams a chance to see more of NKY and have a better appreciation for the talent that is up here. We have some darn good teams up here on a regular basis - we need to broaden our horizons a bit and get out and play these other teams. You may not end up with quite as pretty a record at the end of the regular season, but you'll be far better prepared to compete in post-season play and maybe make an impact in the state tourney.

[Oldtimebaseball84]

I guess it is logistically easier to go over the river to Ohio and play teams that are considered tough opponents, but looking at it, I guess down state coaches don't really know of the talent over the river......I wouldn't know of the talent near them, so it makes sense.

[Baseball Nut 24]

Holy Cross defeated then-ranked #8 in the state (now #25) Harrison County on their home field back in late March as well as Danville (#14 this week) on their home field a few days ago during the All A sectionals. Sometimes it's a little harder for the smaller schools to get big games against the "traditional" top teams in the state on their schedule because there aren't that many open dates that match up when it comes down to scheduling.

 

HC will travel back out on road for a game against Bourbon Co tomorrow morning, who had a few votes this week in the Top 25 this week. Should be a fun last month of the season.

[ft bronc]

I've got to believe that budgetary constraints play some role in NKY teams not traveling downstate more often?

[Baseball Nut 24]

Agree 100%

[Kentonman]

Holy Cross defeated then-ranked #8 in the state (now #25) Harrison County on their home field back in late March as well as Danville (#14 this week) on their home field a few days ago during the All A sectionals. Sometimes it's a little harder for the smaller schools to get big games against the "traditional" top teams in the state on their schedule because there aren't that many open dates that match up when it comes down to scheduling.

 

HC will travel back out on road for a game against Bourbon Co tomorrow morning, who had a few votes this week in the Top 25 this week. Should be a fun last month of the season.

 

Is Bourbon County tonight?

 

Schedule shows 7:30 Tonight.

 

Bourbon shows Brossart tomorrow

[Baseball Nut 24]

Kentonman - Thanks for catching that.

 

HC will travel down after school and play Bourbon Co at 7:00 pm tonight. They have Holmes tomorrow morning at 11:00 am at Meinken.

[Oldtimebaseball84]

I agree that Trinity with a 7-13 record should not be in the top 25 but they have played 9 top 25 teams and 7 of those loses came from top 25 teams.

Don't blame the coaches from"down state" for NKY not having ranked teams, blame the NKY coaches for not playing harder schedules.Ryle is one of the few teams that play top 25 teams. (they have 4 loses and only 2 wins)

And even the top rated team in NKY, Cov Cath with a 21-1 record, has not played a top 25 team. Thats why they are not rated higher.

 

So a question......I know what my answer would be........

 

Should a team move up the rankings more by going to a tourny and winning multiple games over a weekend, against opponents that are ranked, but not as high, say top 15......OR, should they move up more by winning one game against a top 5?

 

My two cents......IMO, Teams should be ranked on how they would do in the final tournament, multiple games over short time periods matching the state torunament. So depth would come into it....not just in a one game shoot out..........