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  1. The silent generation came home from World War II, built the greatest economic engine the world has ever seen, and the strong public institutions necessary to keep it running.

     

    They handed the keys off to the Boomers, who promptly crashed it into the first bridge embankment they could find.

     

    Thus far I haven’t been overly impressed with the GenXers attempts to right the ship.

     

    You’ll forgive me if I’m less than impressed by grandstanding over Millenial malaise as those of us at the older end of that age group look at what lies ahead.

     

    I can't like this nearly enough.

  2. Because they're from Kentucky.

     

    How about if the public schools step up their game? The large public schools in the states you mentioned don't have a problem being competitive with their private school counterparts. But I guess it's easier to lower the bar then to raise it.

     

    KY's obsession with small schools has a lot to do with this too, in KY they want to keep most schools no larger than 1000-1200 students so they just build a new school and split them up...as opposed to adding on and hiring enough teachers to keep the ratio where it should be.

  3. Just my opinions folks, we can go round and round on this subject, money is tied to student populations requiring students to go to certain schools based on their address, while private schools have open enrollment for families who are able to pay tuition. Until students are able to choose their school, it will never be fair

     

    So why exactly is most of the state so dead set on restrictive boundaries instead of just letting all funds follow the student from public school to public school? I have never understood it in areas with larger school districts, if you only have 1 school I get it but if there is more than 1 why not just allow for it? Or better yet, if you live near a county boundary then you could go to the neighboring school system... having 120 counties is absurd anyway with our population (but that is another discussion).

  4. If we want to brag about having just ONE state champ in basketball and having no classifications then you cannot logically call the All A Tournament, as amazing and great an event that it may be, a state championship. Then you are in a logical fallacy.

     

    I have no doubt the quality of play, level of competition, quality of teams, intensity, or anything of the sort. Winning the All A is an amazing accomplishment and hanging a banner of being "All A Tournament 2018 Champions" is 100% fine and I would encourage it. You just can't call it a state championship as it is not recognized as such by the only relevant HS Sports governing body in KY.

     

    Trinity has won a number of "titles" in club sports but they aren't official state championships and if any of those sports were ever recognized they would still not be considered state championships. That is fine, and I have no issue with it.[/QUOTE]

     

    You may need to talk to someone at Trinity about that. If you go to Trinity's website, it proclaims:

     

    Lacrosse Rocks State Champs; Finish Season Ranked 5th Nationally

     

    The Trinity Lacrosse Rocks finished the 2017 season with a record of 18-3, a state championship, and a national ranking of fifth. The Rocks defeated Saint Xavier 11-9 on May 19 for the state title.

     

    I don't believe lacrosse is a KHSAA-sanctioned sport.

     

    It's not and I agree they shouldn't be calling then state titles.

  5. Forgive me....perhaps I'm reading too much in between the lines. And maybe discredit is too strong of a word. It just feels like there are a bunch of folks who are trying to make sure the "All A" understands where it ranks in the hierarchy. Obviously, much of this likely is tied to the resistance so many have towards classing basketball here in KY. I think it's pretty clear to everyone (at least it is to me) that the "All A" isn't an actual "state" championship. It is however, a very large, tournament, played across the entire state, including every region with all teams below a certain enrollment. I have no issue with the tournament winner being called "All A State Champs" simply because of the scope of the tournament. It just doesn't seem to be a big enough deal that so many folks are battling over semantics as to what this tournaments winner should be called, and why a pinpoint description is needed.

     

    If we want to brag about having just ONE state champ in basketball and having no classifications then you cannot logically call the All A Tournament, as amazing and great an event that it may be, a state championship. Then you are in a logical fallacy.

     

    I have no doubt the quality of play, level of competition, quality of teams, intensity, or anything of the sort. Winning the All A is an amazing accomplishment and hanging a banner of being "All A Tournament 2018 Champions" is 100% fine and I would encourage it. You just can't call it a state championship as it is not recognized as such by the only relevant HS Sports governing body in KY.

     

    Trinity has won a number of "titles" in club sports but they aren't official state championships and if any of those sports were ever recognized they would still not be considered state championships. That is fine, and I have no issue with it.

  6. If you have never been to an "All A" regional finals, go to one. Afterwards, give your opinion. Those kids play for a chance to go to a "state" tournament (albeit the All A). The atmosphere is very different than a regular season game between the same schools. Whether sanctioned by the KHSAA or not, it is a statewide tournament for those who meet the small school criteria. This is good for the schools involved and it is good for the KHSAA.

     

    It's not football, I don't really care. I am just arguing a point of detail not passion. HSBBall is irrelevant in my world. I just want things to be given their proper names.

  7. One is the KHSAA state championship, the other is the All A Classic State Championship. But they’re both statewide tournaments, not invitationals. They both have regional tournaments and state tournaments. The only difference is they’re run and sponsored by different organizations. The fact that the All A Classic State Tournament is not run by the KHSAA doesn’t diminish it’s status as a state tournament in the least.

     

    My school was runner-up to University Heights in the 1990 All A State Tournament, held at Memorial Coliseum in Lexington, and we proudly put a banner up in our gym to celebrate it. Also had a row of cars a couple miles long that met our bus at the county line as it came back from Lexington and followed the police and fire truck escort back to the school. That sort of thing doesn’t occur at our school if we win an invitational tournament. Of course, we were only runner-up but it was still a big deal to our community. And on a side note, although we were only runner-up, we had the MVP of the tournament that year in Jeff “Moose” Moore, who still holds several Class A state scoring records. That tournament enabled him to be a 1st team All State player that year and go on to a nice college career at a school in Florida.

     

    So KY has 2 state champs? Well we better start labelling things accurately then. No more of this "One state champion" nonsense.

  8. Nothing but semantics. Whether it is officially a KHSAA state title or not doesn't matter. The fact is in reality it is a state wide championship tournament for small schools and the winner is the state wide small school champion.

     

    So you are saying that Kentucky crowns more than one state champion im basketball? Sort of undoes the mythos of the Sweet 16 and our "One State Champ" mindset doesn't it?

  9. So long as it is prefaced with "All "A" ", as in All "A" State Championship, which clearly defines the difference between the All "A" statewide tournament championship and the KHSAA Sweet 16 State Tournament, what is the issue????

     

    It isn't a state championship, it is a tournament championship. A very good and competitive tournament that, in a classified system, could be a foundation for a small division state title. But if it isn't the KHSAA championship then it isn't a state championship.

  10. You are obviously a football person. No thanks......having 6 classes for football in this State is downright silly. Basketball is just fine as is, including the All A and AA. Believe it or not, I have known several kids to get a lot of college attention, and even offers due to their play in the All A “State” Tournament. I know a girl that is currently playing D1 basketball, that started to get her first interest from college coaches that saw her play for first time in the All A “State” Tournament.

     

    All I'm saying is that if it isn't officially a KHSAA championship then it isn't a state championship. I don't like 6 classes, I liked 4.

     

    If you want a small school state title then classify it, if you want to hold this mythical ideal of the Sweet 16 up to be this paragon of sports then don't try to cheapen it by saying that another tournament is also a state championship then go right ahead.

     

    Call it All A Champs, All A Tournament Champs, just don't call it a state title because the only ones who bestow those in KY are the folks at the KHSAA.

  11. I agree. The way I’m interpreting some of the post on here is that if we were to compare the All A Classic State tournament to the football state tournaments the only one that would count as a state tournament champ would be the 6A winner.

     

    Except that 1A-6A is how we do football in KY. If you want your tournament championship to be an actual state championship then classify basketball and it can be.

     

    Otherwise it is an impressive tournament championship, but currently KY only has 1 state championship in basketball.

  12. As the others have pointed out the All A Classic is not a KHSAA event and it is definitely NOT a state championship of any sort. It is the All A Classic just like the KOB or any other tourney.

     

    You know many years ago I made this exact same argument and was darn near crucified on here, now most of you are saying the exact same thing. Where were you then? :lol2:

  13. For what it is worth, I don't care how X goes about their search. To my way of thinking, any school should look for the best candidate for the job. If the best candidate is from Missouri, New Hampshire or even an X guy, so be it.

     

    As far as Coach Wolford, he represented X with dignity. If the only criticism is that he couldn't beat Trinity, he isn't alone. Way back when he was hired, Billy Reed gave a spot on prediction of how the Wolford era at X would go. It is worth reading.

     

    Billy Reed: Wolford Ready to Rival Trinity? | CatholicSportsNet

     

     

    I am actually with you on this one. Let them do their thing, my only criticism with Wolford was the fact that they started him a year too soon as HC. Glaser deserved to be the coach in 13 where they probably would have won state.

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