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Whether it is a cult, a religion, or hypotism of the dullards, it is certainly seen by many looking for handouts (ie: the conveniently placed Mrs. or Miss Hughes) as a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. The problem to me is that the rest of us are providing the gold with nothing whatsoever in return.

Their not the same team they were at 8-2, when you lose your best D-player and hardest working player it hurts. Losing Bowling hurt them.:idunno:

I agree. The loss of Bowling was bigger than Ashland would ever admit. They also miss Adams and a few more.

"Cyclone" Charlie Osborne is also safe at #2 with 3,647 as are Harry Todd at 3,567 and Chris Harrison at 3,542. Some of the others thereafter are probably safe also. Ferguson should finish in the middle to bottom of the top 10.

I think it is interesting to look at the number of games played by each of these guys. I would vernure to say that Ferguson will participate in a goodly number more games than the others and far more than Coleman and "Cyclone Charlie". That, I believe, illustrates what great scorers these earlier guys were in high school.

The King scored 4,337 points. His record is quite safe.

Duck, I'm not defending Coach Fraley here, but it's not been a secret by any stretch that you didn't actually approve of him as coach and you've made it known in this forum. Just saying......

Well, I'll defend Coach Fraley. I find nothing wrong with him confronting someone face to face about comments made while one is hiding behind the anonymity of BGP.

When a mosquito continually pecks at someone, sooner of later that someone will brush away the mosquito.

Most coaches read BGP but at least Coach Fraley has guts enough to admit it and to react accordingly.

I'd give this decision to Coach Fraley.

Haha to all! It would appear that being an Ashland fan even though tough times is unpopular on here.

Many of the Ashland posters before you, TruBlu, have seemed to exhibit a superiority complex by always tooting about "the tradition" and saying such things as "everyone else wants to be Ashland" with references that only apply to a bygone era when the school was at a different location and went by a different name. Such attitudes don't engender a lot of support from other modern day area posters.

You, unlike many of your earlier cohorts, continue to post for your team- even during these extended times when Ashland is, at best, mediocre. You are to be commended so don't be offended. On the other hand, don't look for any sympathy, either.:thumb:

Teams undergo good years and rebuilding years, that's just the nature of middle school and high school basketball. But having the opportunity for teams to play others that are at least perceived to be loaded only assists teams in advancing up the learning curve. I have to disagree with your comment that it's too late in the season to reschedule games, because every game played can be a learning opportunity for both teams. Elliott utilized the open date to schedule a game with another top team in the state to prepare them for the intensity and talent they will hopefully encounter in the coming month.

And more of the same truth.

Now You know and I know if you really want to makeup a game its never to late.The truth is Biggs was never so glad to see snow in his life and thats that.And who would blame him he has lost enough games already this year.:popcorn:

Truth with no spin.

Well yes its been said that Sam Hunter and Wes Griffith will be returning. IMO Hunter is best at Baseball and Football and should concentrate on those areas to insure his future with scholarships. Running the added risk of injury in basketball probably wouldn't be worth it in his case. Also, with Will Skaggs having the point guard podition sealed (and rightfully so) Hunter who is used to being top dog (instant gratification) in everything he does would most likely have to wait his turn. Griffith would be a much needed addition. Have also heard that Dominique DeMartino may return for his senior year, but with his football injuries, who knows?

Next year you will need Dominique Wilkens.:thumb:

Sometimes ADs make decisions that teams and coaches don't necessarily agree with. I'm certain at that time there was a bit of a grudge going on in the choice to eliminate Rose Hill. Basically making a statement not a choice out of fear of losing.

I agree with your first two statements but your third is a bit off the mark. The AD's avoidance policy continues unabated at as many levels as he can apply it. It sure won't change in the next 3-4 years.

You are right on target, 3-peat and we all know it.

As for the EC game, Ashland dodged rescheduling it.

Clark County was impressive because it won by double figures when all the cards were stacked against it.

Well, not really. They could still play the game they had scheduled with Elliott and cancelled.

I think you may have missed my point. Ashland, at home, was catching Clark County less than 24 hours after a big, emotional win over its main rival. There was no way CC's boys would play remotely up to their ability and they didn't do so. It was Ashland's best shot at upsetting a top 25 team because they caught them at the optimum time. However, there was really no doubt of the outcome- except to TruBlu who is true maroon.

As for the Elliott County game, there is no way, regardless of the scenerio, that Ashland could stay remotely close to Elliott County. So, Ashland, I'm sure, is elated that they dodged EC this year. Once the weather saved them from a trip to Sandy Hook, there was no way it would be rescheduled.:isurrender:

I don't think Ashland would want to play Clark County when the Cardinals are healthy and not physically and emotionally drained. Ashland's best shot was last night. The conclusion is that Clark is a fine team that showed just what it needed for a convincing win on the road.

This was Ashland's best shot to upset a top 25 team. Clark had to give everything it had to beat Mason County in a one point game last night in a battle of the top two teams in the 10th Region.

It sounded live Clark pretty much went through the motions and still won by 11 on the road. That is a sign of a good team when they can come off a big game, go on the road less than 24 hours later, and still easily win a game against even an average opponent. And, Clark is sure young.

Ashland sure had a big advantage in foul shots. That obviously determined the outcome.

If you have a vehicle. Many people that live in large cities rely on public transportation. Ask Rockmom.

 

Who really knew ahead of time how devastating that Katrina would be? Who knew exactly where it would hit?

Pesonal responsibility and assumption of the risk should both be applied here.

Greenhill, Gearhart, Hendrickson

Good crew. I assume Bob Kouns will be at Ashland.

Fairview won the first meeting by 11. However, RH was without Mike Terry and the game was played at Fairview. Should be a good game matching the two best teams in the district with the coveted #1 seed at stake. Who will be officiating besides Rex?

Wow:confused:

 

Highly educated?

 

Having been to the Ninth Ward a few times before and four times since Katrina I think I have at least a hands on perspective. Were there run down streets and parts of the ninth? Sure. I can find the same kind of poor, declining houses in virtually every city. For your friend to say there was no homes worth around 100K is simply ignorant. The area between the levy break (where the barge ended on the street) to the retail area of that particular part of town, sat 100's of full brick, 2 to 3 bedroom patio homes with detached garages. Matter of fact, the specific street I personally walked I recall a very nice home, solid wood floors, inground swimming pool and a late model Corvette - all destroyed.

 

Home ownership, I will find the exact figures and I was surprised when I reviewed them. It was below the average but nothing to suggest this was a total slum area. You do realize this area had a very high, commercial business district? Ever hear of Fats Domino? The Steamboat House? (not worth a 100K?).

 

You know I can travel to a few sections of Louisville and take a snapshot of that part and consider the whole neighborhood to be like that snapshot. That would not be telling the whole story. Your friend is thankfully wrong and perhaps a little resentful or biased. Not sure which, don't really care.

 

Lastly, I did not condemn anyone. I suggest you reread what was posted. I pointed out several factors that is standing in the way of many who want to restart and renew. That part is to be encouraged not condemned.

Boy, Stayinline. I should have consulted with my source, a 28 year NO resident, before responding to your Corvette statement. He said that it was probably owned by a Ninth Ward resident and that it was probably paid for with cash. He explained that most of the drug dealers who lived in that area drove nice vehicles and. likely, this car belonged to one of them.

He also mentioned East NO which he says is low income but inhabited largely by the Vietnamese. He says that this area of town has been built back up by its residents who, rather than continually crying for handouts, took some personal responsibility and initiative. Personal responsibility is a rare commodity in modern day America.

Wow:confused:

 

Highly educated?

 

Having been to the Ninth Ward a few times before and four times since Katrina I think I have at least a hands on perspective. Were there run down streets and parts of the ninth? Sure. I can find the same kind of poor, declining houses in virtually every city. For your friend to say there was no homes worth around 100K is simply ignorant. The area between the levy break (where the barge ended on the street) to the retail area of that particular part of town, sat 100's of full brick, 2 to 3 bedroom patio homes with detached garages. Matter of fact, the specific street I personally walked I recall a very nice home, solid wood floors, inground swimming pool and a late model Corvette - all destroyed.

 

Home ownership, I will find the exact figures and I was surprised when I reviewed them. It was below the average but nothing to suggest this was a total slum area. You do realize this area had a very high, commercial business district? Ever hear of Fats Domino? The Steamboat House? (not worth a 100K?).

 

You know I can travel to a few sections of Louisville and take a snapshot of that part and consider the whole neighborhood to be like that snapshot. That would not be telling the whole story. Your friend is thankfully wrong and perhaps a little resentful or biased. Not sure which, don't really care.

 

Lastly, I did not condemn anyone. I suggest you reread what was posted. I pointed out several factors that is standing in the way of many who want to restart and renew. That part is to be encouraged not condemned.

I will stick with my post. It was and is factual. Your reply is full of spin and selective cherry picking. Corvette? I don't doubt it. Was it titled to a local resident or stolen? How many old cars on blocks were there? The Ninth Ward was and is overwhelmingly a slum area inhabited with "entitlement" recipients. You know it and I know it. These people deserve our compassion but they also should be required to show a little backbone, help themselves, and not expect to eternally live on handouts.

Houston extended its arms and spent millions to help these people. How did they repay Houston? Houston's crime rate went out the roof. Sadly, that is fact- not spin.

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If the weather remained this bad for a few more days I doubt EC would play anymore 16th region games until the district. The long range forecast calls for temps in the 50s and 60s from Friday through next Wednesday so they may just play a few more 16th region games. Fishing around for out of region replacement games this late in the season is a difficult to almost impossible task with teams having no open dates that fit, travel/budget restrictions, or at the max number of regular season games allowed by KHSAA. I would cancel if at all possible and re-schedule for next season sometime.

I'm sure Ashland would be quite happy to reschedule the game for next year.

Can we assume that the Ashland-Elliott County game will not be rescheduled? I'm sure Ashland would prefer this solution.

Lexington already has 3 inches.

Fortunately the game is at Summit.

Good come back from the all "A". No let down this year. Good luck the rest of the season.

Is there any truth to the rumor that all of Ashland's staff is in church praying for a blizzard this afternoon?:scared:

Ashland cannot beat EC. We all know that. Therefore, EC will win. By how much? That will be up to EC. Will they still be pouting about their Class A performance or will they rise to the occasion? It is entirely up to them. If they play hard, they can pretty much name the score. If they brood, who knows?

Good teams bounce back and do so with authority. We'll learn a lot about EC tonight.

Perhaps if you travel to the Ninth Ward and see what the folks in New Orleans are up against you may think differently. This is a typical story of the Ninth Ward:

 

Home worth 100K, had a small mortgage (home ownership in the Ninth was fairly good). Storm wipes it out. Bank takes its mortgage, less deductable if insurance truly pays - family has, say 60K now in their hands. Every available builder, contractor, etc. is busy and scheduled out forever, contracts are at a premium. Material costs are above average due to local demand. BUT, new rebuilding laws says house must be on stilts - makes sense, except the old 100k house to rebuild now costs about 130K. So the family has to decide to double their mortgage? In an area that is still under debris removal and no business, school or other society services around? Don't forget the lending limitations of the world now also apply to New Orleans. So do they look for a lot somewhere else? Many are not as homeless as you may think. They are saving their money and living in apartments, etc. Several are working around the whole mess by doing it in their spare time, pay as they go.

 

As a post script, several of the Katrina rebuilt homes have appraised about 20% less than cost of rebuilding.

 

My friend I can tell you first hand, there are people that want to build and build now but their fiscal approach is not the stereotype thinking us Northerners are using to judge them.

I asked a person who was in security administration and law enforcement in New Orleans at the time of the hurricane about the Ninth Ward. This guy is highly educated and experienced and is no redneck by any stretch of the definition. His information is quite different from yours. Now, keep in mind that he lived and worked in the area for over 20 years.

He states that the Ninth Ward was an extreme slum area filled with unkept and decaying structures. He states that anyone implying, as has the above poster, that it had a number of $100K homes is, to be nice, wrong. He says most all of the houses were rented or occupied by panhandlers. Small mortgages? Ridiculous, he says. The overwhelming majority of those living there had no ownership upon which to base a mortgage. Few had employment. Almost all lived on public assistance. In other words, the above poster's statements are completely incorrect and he should know it.

If you doubt this, check out pictures of the Ninth Ward on the web. Take a good look at the houses. It is quite easy to see what they were before the storm. They were slums.

So, since these people had no investment in the structures before the storm, they were certainly not burdened with any mortgage and were free to relocate.

We can feel sorry for these people. However, let's not paint an untrue picture just for the purpose of condemning others and creating sympathy. As my source said, "It sounds bad but the truth is that the Ninth Ward, overall, didn't look a lot different after the hurricane than it did before the hurricane."