BasketballFan24

I’ll throw out another possible scenario. If Lincoln is unable to get past DCA tonight, when was last time Lincoln, Wayne, and Pulaski all missed the region tournament?

I would definitely agree with you if it wasn’t a senior only award. I know lots of underclassmen that could have won it over the past years. Probably some could have won it 2-3 years in a row but that’s not how it’s set up. All the players you mentioned are good players but a 3,000 and 1,000 guy who usually has his team in contention to win a district and compete in region and has for a long time in my opinion gets the nod.

My opinion this cements Phillips as the POY in the 12th. 3,000 is a monster number and I think he is over 1,000 rebounds as well. Has his team in the hunt as a region contender as well. I know a lot of great players in the 12th but he just stands out with his career numbers.

When it’s close like this year the career numbers have to be the deciding factor in my opinion. Overall numbers not just points per game. Also how has the team done in district and region tournaments? How has player performed on the big stage of those tournaments over coarse of career? Being senior only award career has to be top priority to me.

I think it’s Phillips. Having a good year and has his team in contention for region like the others you mentioned but career numbers are way ahead of tge others. If he don’t get injured is going to score 3,000 and has 1,000 rebounds too.

Yea. Some just don’t get it. Don’t look for the whole picture. You can only play 5 at a time and a coach with the experience he has had the 5 he trusted I’m sure and it almost got them there. The next group would have been in the drivers seat this year if they had stayed and Murray hadn’t went down. Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad the kids are doing good where they are and I hope they get college offers and all their dreams come true but don’t come on here downing the school and administration and coaches because they are having a bad season. Don’t help the kids that stuck it out and are trying as hard as they can. It’s about commitment from all year after year to build a winning program. Just takes a few to derail it.

I didn’t ask who should start. I asked who do you replace of the 5 that played most of the minutes. Do you give Sparrow a lot of Ellis’ minutes? The 12th region player of the year and a very efficient offensive player for 4 years in the 12th. Not only that but was the rim protector and back line that made Adkins defensive scheme work and made them the #2 defense in the state. Not to mention grabbing 10+ boards a game every night and some huge ones in the region tournament. Sparrow had showed no sign of being able to do any of that in the minutes he played throughout the season. do you try and play him and Ellis together and take Murray out? Murray was no doubt the best lockdown defender in the 12th and shut Phillips and Fraley down in the region tournament to get them to the championship. How about Doughty does Sparrow or Sexton shoot it from range as well as he did for the season and especially in the region tournament. How about the defensive job he did on Cook in the region semi finals? Tatum was an experienced senior who did his job that was asked of him. Handled the ball, defended well in Adkins scheme and made shots. A kid that was totally bought in to winning. Maybe Sexton could have got a few of his minutes but I assume coach trusted the senior over a sophomore. No way Sparrow can defend that position so again it comes back to defense. Preston is playing D1 ball in Tennessee so that says something about him. Do you sit him for extended minutes? Wouldn’t make much sense. so it really wasn’t about who can score 21 points a game against teams that all have losing records and is the only scoring option since Beasley went down with knee injury. It was about defense and the kids that were bought in to doing it coaches way and what fit his style. It was about senior leadership and trusting those guys but developing the next group to take the reins next year and build off what he did the previous two years. I think he was bought in to the program and heading in the right direction . I’m sure he moved his kid after seeing the lack of buy in from the parents and kids there and he probably will be close behind The administration there hired Hamlin and it was a complete joke for 6 years so they make a move and go get a good coach who comes in and wins immediately but the parents and kids leave anyway. Sounds like the problem there rests with someone other than the administration and coach.

It’s exactly an apple to apple comparison. Boyle has 13 state championships because the parents and kids have been bought in to the program for years and they compete for the good of the team. Mercer doesn’t have that buy in because when they started building that way with a couple of good seasons all the sudden the next group leaves. Not saying Mercer will ever have 13 state championships or even region championships but they had turned the corner from mediocre to a contender the last two years. You mentioned kids barely played so I assume you think that is why the kids left. My question is who gets benched off last years team to get minutes for the others?

Coach Jackson just keeps getting it done. One of the best.

I’m going to say you compare it to Boyle football and the success they have year after year. Boyle graduated a ton from the year before but kids who were good but didn’t get much time waited their turn and learned from the older guys and shined when it was their turn and won a state championship. Mercer was a bucket away from playing in Rupp last year and would have been a contender again this year but the kids and parents got their feelings hurt because they didn’t get time and didn’t want to wait their turn so they left for personal gain. Add injury to Murray who was outstanding in region tournament last year and that’s a lot of holes to fill. I find it hard to be a coaching problem with the success the program had the last two years and the overall success Coach Adkins has had for a long career. As far as football I don’t know why kids are leaving. Don’t follow football closely but program has not been deep in playoffs for a long while.

This can be said for several teams. Wayne is another level with Edwards running things and as good as Pulaski has been early would be a lot better with Anderson.

Actually, DCA did take a loss to Warren Central Saturday. Probably don’t change the rankings though.

Yes. Forgot him. Just unreal in one region.

Hate to hear all the injuries in the 12th this year. If my count is right that is 3 major contributors to their team out. Anderson at PC, Edwards at Wayne and Murray at Mercer. Two are seniors and will lose the best year of their high school career after years of work. Tough break for the kids.

I think Lincoln and Pulaski should be outside the top 5 for now and Wayne up to 3. If Edwards hadn’t got hurt I think Wayne is undisputed 1 with Farmer returning. With what West and DCA return and what they have added are interchangeable 1-2 for now though. Somerset and Southwestern should fill the 4-5 for now. Both return a lot. Like every year Boyle has to be in the conversation, a lot of talent and athletes but always depends on when and if football kids show up.