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He might be a fine guy, but from what I have seen he is either lacking a proof reader of his work or I would not be using his word on rankings credibility. And these ranking guys have to sprinkle in some players who they may not have at their camp to dress up the rankings they put out. to do otherwise would unravel the ruse.

We have a home grown talent from the eastern part of our state on an official visit at an elite power 5 school yet some would rather take pot shots at his age. If it works for him and he plays high major college ball it makes me very proud as few from our state ever reach that level. Schools do not give officials to anyone, they are limited in numbers. Unofficials not so telling, official for BB at OSU is proving the naysayers wrong. If I did not know better, I may suggest some act like they are having a bit of the envy attack.

I would like to hear the explanation how Jake Walters out of Cov Catholic can be ranked at #17 & #29 in the same ranking and then it happened again with Zach Kelch out of Simon Kenton who is ranked at both #23 & #44. Either bad final drafting or maybe the higher ranking is on their good day and the lower on their bad days.

Unless a parent or someone has altered a birth certificate to falsify an age, then I am not sure why this topic continues to get mentioned. There are rules in place to address age & eligibility. If a young man's family chooses to change the pace of their graduation year, it is a decision they are afforded. Some like the extra year for whatever and some don't, but it is a personal choice. If they are playing within the rules, who cares if they could potentially by 18 months or so older than others in their graduating class. As long as records are not forged it is a non-issue for me.

The above is very accurate of the situation. I do not think the 22 Feet Academy job was even open as their season was not finished when David left TC to return home to his family.

IMO Tandy and Johnson are well on their way and the class is very good. Cozart from Madison Central deserves mention also, he is a bigger kid (6'7") that has special defensive skills. If his offensive game catches up he could be the highest of them all because of his size. 2019 is very good, an upswing with nice potential.

The Academy web site gives out more information, but also leaves many questions unanswered. Post grad prep schools lost some drawing power with recent NCAA rules changes towards core GPA. No longer can kids go to Post grad academies to improve their Core GPA. They can improve their ACT/SAT scores which is the only academic benefit. I personally would think going to a JUCO for two years is a better option, but if a higher test score could help a player become a non-qualifier then it does allow you to be at a 4 year school with 4 years eligibility when a transfer from JUCO usually only leaves two years remaining at the 4 year school. Only select schools allow partial qualifiers and the red shirt year is part of that gaining eligibility. The money question is intriguing. Unless someone has a ton of money and is wanting to help kids in a charitable way there has to be at least enough money coming in to pay for everything. Even well established places typically have pay to play players and scholarship players to generate some revenue. I did not see any 9-12 prep school roster or schedule so I would say that is a future thing and only post graduate this season.

It may not be D1, but getting a higher education degree via an athletic scholarship is noteworthy and something to be very proud of. D1 or D2 is tough to obtain. I think I saw a stat that less than 1% of all high school players receive their college education with complete athletic aid.

Correct on Tre being young. He would currently be a 16 year old senior if he was still at LCA. I really think the young versus old for your grade is a tough read for most kids. Whatever works for each family and kid. I am not sure college coaches are wired to be drawn to younger kids for their class or not. I think the point where it is an advantage to be old for your class is middle school and early high school. I am not sure that it ever turns and becomes a disadvantage. Perhaps it does, but as long as kids are within the rules it seems to be fair game to do so.

Exactly, the LCA ship has sailed. Hargrave is both prep and post graduate so Tre did not have to reclassify, but he is essentially doing the same thing as Braxton Beverly did last year when he arrived at Hargrave by reclassifying.

I heard opposite, the coaching staff is extremely pleased and is looking forward to having Tre for the next two years as he did reclassify.

It is possible the OP may have the details mixed up. I believe there is an out of town transfer from FL that is a good basketball player who is the son of former Seneca Head Football Coach, Lavelle Boyd. He has moved back to Louisville after spending last year or two in FL. He has two sons that came back and at least one is a good football player and the other basketball. Lavelle played his HS career at Doss so it makes perfect sense they would return and enroll at their Dad's former school. There might possibly be a mix-up and this could be the out of state transfers the OP heard about. There would be nothing out of the ordinary if that is the case. Coach Williams is a very good coach and with his track record he attracts good players who move into town.

I agree Hoptown will be a top 10 team when it is all said and done. I do see that Team Penny did win the AAU D1 National Championship in July 2015. Being the 9th grade AAU National Champion and being the number 1 team in 2016 playing 16U is a leap considering most of the best teams do not travel to Memphis for a live period where only 9th grade kids are playing. 38 teams attended the D1 AAU championship in Memphis last July of which I counted less than 10 total shoe sponsored programs. When you combine UA, Adidas, and NIKE there are over 100 shoe sponsored teams who generally are the best teams from each state so having less than 10 at the AAU event in Memphis the previous year does not make Team Penny the best of the best, just best of that tournament. Many of the better programs play their 15U teams up in July so they play in front of more college coaches during the live periods where Coaches tend to watch older age kids. Team Penny is a very good team/program, but to state they beat the #1 team in the country at the time is a bit misleading in my opinion. Still, it is true they could easily return to RUPP and it is a very realistic possibility.

There has become a lot of movement within Jefferson County kids transferring in recent years, However, few schools have benefitted from bringing in out of state transfers that I recall. This is somewhat new for Jefferson County unless you have the natural kids whose families move with them as part of a relocation. The relocation of out of state kids without families simply moving has typically been seen coming from Eastern KY until the last two years seeing this with Doss if even accurate it has happened again this year.

Coach has some connections in Cincy so would not be surprising.

Bellarmine got a good one and likewise Sean got a good one. Ben Weyer and Sean should have many wins there playing at Knights Hall.

Pretty sure he was the coach last season. If I am correct, he was the assistant at Doss before taking the job prior to last season when Shawnee's coach at that time left for Jeffersontown.

The article says WKU, not WVU. I am not sure if the WKU was an offer before the new coaching staff came in or after. Great player for sure, I hear he also is a heck of a QB in football. Did he play football this season?

AAU coaches come in all sizes and flavors, just like those that have coached High School ball. There is plenty of good and bad to go around of each. Is there is specific behavior that someone would want to be avoided when identifying somebody as an AAU coach, or just the image that some have of an AAU coach makes them undesirable? Regardless, I would want the best developer of talent that is committed to the kids who gives the school the best chance to win a regional championship doing things the right way while representing the school with class. The candidate pool of who that may be should not be limited. Casting a wide net of defining an AAU coach is a misnomer in itself. For example, coaching on the NIKE EYBL circuit is nowhere near what most would perceive as an AAU coach. When you lace it up against the likes of UK's incoming freshmen class during your EYBL season, you had better be able to coach or you will get blown off the court even with the best players of the Commonwealth in your huddle. I mention that as an example only because many have the perception that AAU coaches are not good coaches, they just recruit players well. I just feel a label or painting with a broad brush is not a good thing in this situation.

AAU coaches come in all sizes and flavors, just like those that have coached High School ball. There is plenty of good and bad to go around of each. Not sure if there is specific behavior that someone would want to be avoided when identifying somebody as an AAU coach, or just the image that some have of an AAU coach. Regardless, I would want the best developer of talent that is committed to the kids who gives the school the best chance to win a regional championship doing things the right way while representing the school with class. The potential of who that may be should not be limited to non-AAU coaches. In fact some coaches labeled an AAU coach may never have coached an AAU game yet that is their label. For example, coaching on the NIKE EYBL circuit is nowhere near what most would perceive as an AAU coach. When you lace it up against the likes of UK's incoming freshmen class during your EYBL season, you had better be able to coach or you will get blown off the court even with the best players of the Commonwealth in your huddle. I mention that as an example only because many have the perception that AAU coaches are not good coaches, they just recruit players well.

I would agree with that, any year when you come out of the 6th or 7th you must be battle tested and handle the big stage games. If you emerge from either on any given year there is the possibility of playing in the final game of the Sweet 16. Doss is a perfect example of that last year. Until somebody knocks them off, they are the back to back defending 6th region champs.

It is great you are behind your team and they are both very good players. However, you lose some credibility when you make claims that are not based in fact. Team Penny was not the #1 team in the nation, not even close. The 16U team were one of 16 teams to make the NIKE EYBL Sweet 16. However, they only won 1 game in pool play and never advanced into bracket play. The 17U team which I doubt they beat did make it to the FInal 4 of Peach Jam. They may have been the best team in Tennessee, but you are stretching it with saying the #1 team in the nation.

Not going to dispute anything said, but most of it is hearsay regarding chemistry, get mine mentality, and Moore being a potential disruption as mentioned in other posts too. I would bet that the FC coach is thrilled to have him and opposing 6th region coaches would rather not have him there. FC went through some tough times last year with a high profile player leaving mid season, adjusting to a key mid-season injury, and having young players continue to mature. This season being young can no longer be an excuse. Junior guards Wales & Price have started since they were freshmen and the rest of their youth has experience to go along with high scoring potential of Moore. I see any perceived chemistry issues as being behind them and the sharing of the scoring should benefit from the ability of PG Wales to get everyone involved which he has proven he is capable of. Moore will be the leading scorer, and Price & Rogers will also be scoring threats. The key is do they buy in to defending and that will determine a deep run or a potential flame out early.

I think the big thing is that if a ranking is limited to evaluating the pool of candidates primarily from their own camp as the primary stage for developing a list, it opens itself to the perception of a lack of credibility or self-serving. Obviously there will be kids added to the list that are high profile that may not be at the camp so it passes the eye test. However, in a state where very few kids go on to play at the D1 level it amazes me when a ranking list fails to include kids who have heavy interest or offers from D1 schools. That shows me someone is not doing their homework or their list is more of a camp ranking that sprinkles in several other well known kids for appearance sake. My assumption is that rankings are for the purpose of college potential, so it matters what the rankings purpose is as well.

They both played last year for JTown that had an 11-18 record with only 1 win in district play. Cunningham was one of their better players, but he was a senior in eligibility last season, so he would not have played anywhere at a KY High School. Brown was a senior this year, but may not have started and did not start very many games this past season after transferring from Doss. I believe he did not get eligible right away last season. People transfer or leave for a prep school for many reasons and Cunningham needed to do so or sit out a season before he entered college. The Brown kid may have left to reclassify or maybe he didn't want to be at JTown anymore and just needed a place to play since he likely would not have been eligible at another Louisville school given he sat out a large part of last season coming to JTown.