Big East Zebra

Looking at previous years when 5th Region schools were in other regions, you can add 11 more region titles from schools such as Vine Grove, East Hardin, Ft. Knox, Rineyville and E'town Cath.

While I understand what you are saying, my point was one district, in this case the 9th has owned a region, in this case the 3rd. As you are saying this Hardin Co district schools has been in more than one region, kinda of difficult for a district to own a region when you have been in 2 different regions. However, your point is noted.

I've not look at stats or anything but I would say the 17th (Hardin County district) has won half of the 5th region titles. Like I said I haven't looked at any previous results.

 

The point I was making was usually if it's a large populated area in a region they usually dominate that region. Such as BG/Warren County Etown/Hardin County.

 

The 5th Region has 18 teams and all but 5 play in Class 3A or smaller in football, 6 of them are in the All A classic in basketball.

Having looked through the KHSAA Stats I discovered the following for the 5th Region and Hardin Co. schools. I included E-town, even though it's an independent district in with Hardin Co.

No team won the region from until........drum roll please:

'67 E-town Catholic

'68 E-town Catholic

'72 E-town

'75 E-town

'81-82 N. Hardin

'86 E-town

'90-91 N. Hardin

'94 N. Hardin

'96 N. Hardin

'98-99 N. Hardin

'00 E-town

'01-03 N. Hardin

'05 E-town

'10 N. Hardin

'12-13 John Hardin

As compared to the 3rd Region 9th District:

'42-44 Daviess County

'46-51 Owensboro

'52 Daviess County

'53 Owensboro

'57-58 Daviess County

'60 Owensboro

'62-63 Owensboro

'65 Owensboro

'67 Owensboro

'70-75 Owensboro

'76 Apollo

'77 Owensboro

'78 Apollo

'79-84 Owensboro

'85 Apollo

'86-87 Owensboro

'88 Apollo

'90 Apollo

'92 Owensboro

'96 Owensboro

'97 Apollo

'02 Owensboro

'03 Daviess County

'04 Apollo

'06 Apollo

'07-08 Owensboro

'11 Daviess County

'12 Apollo

'14-15 Owensboro

'16 Owensboro Catholic

I'd say the 9th District has owned the 3rd Region.

I think anyone who watched the whole tournament with an open mind can see that BG and Mercer County were the second and third best teams in the tournament. They can't help when they played Dunbar but those two teams gave Dunbar their toughest games of the tournament.

Just because Dunbar won the State Title does not necessary mean they were the best team, IMO. Mercer and BG both gave those games away, more so than Dunbar won.

That point can probably be made about most regions.

The only region, that MIGHT have a district as tough as the 9th would be the Lexington District and I'm not sure what the number would be in the 11th. But I promise you that district has not dominated the region like the 9th has the 3rd.

Well my team is out WVU, the team I hate the most is out, the team I hate the second most ND when they get beat I'll be happy. Aside from that I really don't care who wins just want the games to be good.

In the last 75 years the 3rd Region Championship has only been won 23 times by a school other than the current members of the 9th District.

Case in point!

WKY, while I do understand your logic, if you want to rate tough districts, I dare you to find a tougher district in the state than the 9th. Apollo, Daviess County, Owensboro and Owensboro Catholic. Winning this district is much tougher than winning the 3rd Region.

How do you rank a team 3rd that got beat in the opening round? In my opinion, Dunbar which won, on the court, had the toughest road to get there, was not the best team in the tourney. Mercer, and BG both gave their games away to Dunbar.

Also would like to see District runner ups eliminated when they lose. If you get beat in post season your season should be over period. That makes your regional a final 4 deal with all winners.

Terrible idea. Being from the 9th District (Owensboro, Owensboro Catholic, Apollo and Daviess County, for those that don't know where the 9th is), if you eliminate the district runner up guess what, last year Owensboro doesn't win the State Championship. I also believe the year Cov Cath won they were the district runner up as well.

Would be nice if for Friday between the 1st and 2nd games we could have a meeting spot to get to meet each other. I will be in my WVU gear. Not sure where I'm sitting yet, I guess wherever I get tickets for.

Taylor County a 13 Seed? Are you kidding me? SMH. There is an old saying which says if it's not broke don't fix it. One thing that makes the Boy's and Girl's Sweet 16 the GREATEST SHOW IN HOOPS is the fact of the blind draw!

I will be there Thursday Night, all day Friday and Saturday Night.

It is my understanding the KHSAA has the Girls Tourney in a locale which in turn becomes that City's responsibility to "sell" the tourney to their area. Bowling Green over the last several years has done a tremendous job selling it to Bowling Green and Warren County. NKY had the same opportunity and from the sound of things totally dropped the ball. No wonder it was only given a 2 year contract. My guess is Bowling Green will jump back into the picture when it comes up to re-bid for the Girls Sweet 16.

That's not the job of the KHSAA, that's the job of the local tourism commission. City of Highland Heights or whatever is up there should be doing that. Owensboro, tourism and City promote the State Softball tourney locally, not the KHSAA.

Give Tim Riley a week to prepare, I think he will have the Aces ready to stack the deck.

I don't think it has anything to do with where anyone's mind is on this subject, it has to do with the legal system, the school system(s) and parenting issues. This is not a moral issue, it's a system issue and the system is broken....

Are you implying it wasn't a moral issue 22 or even 10 years ago? It was a moral issue then, and I think it has a lot to do where people's minds are now. Not every "Male Coach" coaching a female sport is a bad guy. However, people take things that are meant has harmless (I don't know but I would think it is harmless to Coach Mudd) and turn it into a legal issue and ruin a man (again Coach Mudd) who means nothing by it.

Murray wins going away again!

Here's my take for what it's worth. Coach Mudd has been coach 22 years and all of a sudden we have an issue. Granted I don't approve, but if this man has been doing this for 22 years and not been an issue, why are we addressing it now? Besides, I think the Bible gives us a good solution to this situation. "To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled." Titus 1:15. Since we are having this discussion could let us know where some minds are.

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Advance Tickets: Courtside - $31.25, Reserved - $15.50, General Admission - $11

Day Of Tickets: Courtside - $35, Reserved - $18, General Admission - $13

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Parking: $5.00

Tickets are much higher at NKY than at Western. Reserved Seating WKY was $15.00 per session.

Why are people over looking Murray? Butler defeating Murray is not a given. I know they are a single "A" school, but if memory serves me correctly there was a single "A" school from Northern Kentucky that defeated mighty E-town last year and won the State Championship. History just might repeat it's self.

Has the player's gotten better? Do they shoot the ball better, play defense with their feet, not hands better? Do they handle the ball better without carrying the basketball? Pass the ball better, do the fundamentals better? Or do we just have more athlete's playing basketball, not true basketball players?

I think we have more athlete's playing basketball, not true basketball players, which makes the game look sloppier and the results are the officials look bad.

Without O'Bryan, Catholic with be limited. I look for Meade to win it all.

Seen officials this season, from the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and the 5th was by far the worse, short fuse for out of region coaches, and very inconsistent, and sure took care of their regional team, more than any other region we went to this year.

If I am following your logic correctly, you think Lafayette was better than Trinity?

No you are not following my logic. Male had to play Trinity on the "West" side of the bracket. That's how they were placed. If the 6A had been set up as a seeded bracket, in all likelihood Male would have been seeded 1 and Trinity 2, but since it's not seeded, and they had to play to advance to the Regional Championship, Male defeated them and advanced. Lafayette was placed on the "East" side of the bracket, and won and advanced, to be the best team in the East. Again, had it been seeded, Lafayette would have never advanced to the Championship game.

I voted yes in all 6 classes and here's the reason why. The tourney is set up with 32 teams in each class across the state. Now, whether a team should be in the East or West is certainly up for debate. However, that is the way it's set up, and the team that won their way through their side was the best team on that given night they played. Now if they bracket was set up by a seeding method, 1 plays 32, 2 plays 31, etc. then if there was an upset, you could say the best team did not make the championship game.

May not be a good theory, but I think the best teams made it.