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With his stuff you try to find that out. Pedro Martinez wasn't as big, (5'11 170 lbs), as Iglesias and pitched for 18 years in the bigs. Electric stuff like his comes along every so often and they would be wasting it if they didn't make an attempt to make a starter out of him. With what they are paying him through 2020 you don't throw him in the bullpen. You might as well trade him while he has some value.

I would let him go 7-8-9 or 8-9 in situations like that.

I hardly say he's prove he can start. He's never started more than 16 games in a year.

I meant to say he has proven he has the stuff to start.

Price was dumb again. Pitched Iglesias in the 7th and 8th and Cingrani already put two on with one out. He can't throw strikes, Price. Iglesias is the closer!!!!

Just can't figure Bryan Price out!

Here we go again with Cingrani. Can the guy throw anything but a fastball?

I'd like to see him in some kind of a hybrid closer role where he could go 2-3 innings a few times a week. There is real value in that as opposed to sticking him in the 9th inning each time.

He has too much good stuff to waste him in a long role. How many of the other young pitchers have the variety of pitches that he has, and he has proven he can start?

So much for Iglesias the closer!

Yeah not exactly. :lol2:

Yeah they really tore the cover off the ball in the 1st inning didn't they?

I'm really starting to like Tucker Barnhart. He's cheap and the Reds control him through 2021.

If it wasn't for Votto in the lineup tonight this kid for Miami might pitch a nono against this lineup.

Does Thom Brennaman ever shut his mouth? I don't know who likes to hear themselves talk more him or George Grande. They both think they are the smartest announcers in the world and they want to tell you everything they know. I just like to watch the game and could care less about the useless statistical information they give out each and every night they announce. I was beginning to like Jim Day doing the games even if he is kind of dry. I have to admit that I didn't miss Thom a bit when he was gone.

I think Scott had a few breakdowns on defense that can be corrected. It was a few big plays that hurt them. Offensively it is a disaster. They line everyone inside the hash marks allowing the D to do the same. Perrin is stuck running for his life and little room to run. They attempted 3 passes off play action of which two were intercepted. One on one coverage on "outside" quick pass to their big target might loosen things up a bit and give the qb some confidence. Maybe try spreading the field a bit for running lanes. NC by 14

This was a scrimmage right? Maybe the Scott coach was working on a few specific things and didn't want to give away any more info than necessary. Just saying not knowing a thing about Scott.

Yeah, no way in hell. I was upstairs last night and it was brutal. If there were almost 17,000 they must have had 16,600 downstairs.

That's announced attendance, a lot of no shows I guess. Monday night, thunderstorms threatening the area?

Dee Gordon beats out a chopper to 1st with bases loaded and 2 runs score. 6 to 3 Marlins.

Should have been an error on Votto, just a terrible underhand toss to the pitcher.

Anyone catch the attendance last night?

16,918 maybe 1/2 that many there!

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Bully Hamilton hurt his shoulder running into a wall again and is out of the game.

New guy?

Why was the outfield playing deep with a 4 run lead? If Carpenter hits a gapper Reds still lead. His line drive should have been an out to end the game.

Thought the exact same thing. If Holiday hits a HR it will be to left or left center. The ball dropped right where Schebler would have been playing in a normal situation with Holiday up.

Cards batted ten players in the ninth. I was worried when they brought Cingrani in. Still don't have that real good feeling about him. Not mentally there yet. With that said, the had man on second with two outs. Cingrani then walked and then hit the next batter. That is when he should have been pulled. Instead, Price let him give up a first pitch single and then let him pitch to Holliday which he never came close and walked on four pitches. To late to make a change. The last seven batteries, three walked and two HBP. Just a terrible melt down. I bet Cingrani has a tough time looking at Cody Reed in the clubhouse.

Holiday was 4 for 8 against Cingrani before last nigth and I'm sure they both knew that.

I'm just talking about tonight's game. He brought in Cingrani in the ninth, who has pitched well as closer. I don't think Lorenzen or Iglesias were available. He had already used Wood. He was stuck using Ohlendorf when Cingrani had the epic failure.

Okay let's just go back 1 week to last Tuesday for starters. They played St. Louis at home coming off of an offday on Monday. They were tied up 2-2 with Straily pitching well and at that point had only thrown 78 pitches. He pulled Straily and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that move because I don't know the circumstances. I know it was hot that night and maybe he was gassed? He didn't pinch hit for him or anything. He's got Iglesias rested and still brings in Ohlendorf who gives up the lead right away with a HR. The Reds take the lead in the bottom of the 7th 4-3 and Price now brings in Wood who promptly gives up a HR and gives up the lead. Now the Reds to their credit do come back and beat St. Louis closer 7-5.

On Wednesday down 5-4 he brings in Lorenzen in the 8th I assume to keep the game close and uses him 2 innings. I'm okay with that as Lorenzen has been very effective lately. Mind you now Iglesias hasn't pitched since Saturday so going to Thursday he has had 4 days off??

On Thursday he wakes up and realizes Iglesias has had too many days off so he uses him 2 innings in a game the Reds are up 7-0.

On Friday night I guess he feels he is forced to use Ohlendorf in the bottom of the 9th tied 2-2 so guess what happened, we all know thank you another leadoff HR by a reliever.

Saturday no Iglesias in Bailey's debacle but I wouldn't have expected to see him there but guess what on Sunday?

Sunday up 7-2 he brings Iglesias in and also uses Lorenzen and Cingrani each for an inning I guess to salvage the lone win against Pittsburgh. So to this point in 1 week he has used his best reliever twice in one week and both times when they were up big?????

On Monday up 4-0 he brings his closer in to start the 9th. We all know and I'm sure by now that Price knows this as well Cingrani has 1 pitch and that's all he'll throw. You can't throw 25 fastballs to the Cards and not expect bad things to happen and you can't bring straight fastball Ohlendorf in with the bases loaded tied and not expect him to lose the game.

I'm done venting. Bryan Price has proven time and time again he can't manage a bullpen, surprising for a pitching coach. Now all this said I do understand that this team is going nowhere and Price is probably, (I sure hope so), trying to see who he can use where but to me it sure makes me wonder if he truly knows what he is doing.

What should Price have done differently?

How about using his pitchers better? Do you agree with the way he brings them into different situations?

Chris Welsh just asked "Did this really happen?". How comical that he couldn't believe that this bullpen was capable of doing what they just did.

I think HammerTime hit the nail on the head with Bryan Pryce trying to do all he can to assure this team of another high draft pick. Brings his closer in with a 4 run lead and then with the bases loaded and up 4-3 he brings in the straight ball pitcher Ohlendorf. Does anybody throw more fast balls than the Red's bullpen? Do they have anybody but Iglesias that can throw a breaking ball in that bullpen?:idunno:

Wow, have to give the Reds credit for the catch on Friedl. Hard to imagine every other team missed that he was eligible.

 

If drafted this year where would he have been drafted?

No later than 2nd round is what I'm hearing.

One of the craziest stats I've ever heard of !!!!

The stat is more than that, it's the 1st batter that the reliever faces when they come out of the bullpen. The Reds have had multiple guys do it in an inning. It's becoming almost comical. I don't think any team will ever approach the number the Reds are going to put up here. You would think at some point they are going to be afraid to pitch to the 1st guy and maybe walk him to avoid it. This has to soon become a running joke on ESPN or somewhere where they start tracking it on Sportscenter or something. Has anybody in the pen avoided this?

Why would anyone commit to UL right now without knowing the sanctions? If you're going to commit, just wait a little while to see what happens.

I guess he wanted in on the action! :idunno: