November 15, 200916 yr “There were plenty of people dealing from the sordid deck: Obama advisers who pointed reporters to the remarks; Obama supporters who took the Clintons’ remarks out of context to condemn them; This is not what his advisors SAID. This is someone else's take on whatever was said. There is a difference.
November 15, 200916 yr We are not talking about you but rather a politician. Which of the two would hurt a politician in a campaign worse? I don't care which hurts a campaign worse. I care about which IS worse. Still...I'm not sure what Obama's advisors actually said.
November 15, 200916 yr This is not what his advisors SAID. This is someone else's take on whatever was said. There is a difference. To paraphrase a post I read recently, Well, if that makes Obama supporters feel secure now, more power to them.
November 15, 200916 yr I don't care which hurts a campaign worse. I care about which IS worse. Still...I'm not sure what Obama's advisors actually said. Until recently when they misread the reaction to FoxNews, Obama's advisors do a very good job in getting their message out without having to go on the record and say things. It is a behind the scenes type of meeting. The same type of thing like Obama had with Olberman, Mudow, Mathews, etc, etc, into the White House for a behind the scenes, off the record meeting that none of them reported about. He did this when all of the Fox News brouhaha was happening.
November 15, 200916 yr To paraphrase a post I read recently, Well, if that makes Obama supporters feel secure now, more power to them. I'm still interested in what was SAID, as opposed to someone else's take on what was said. Surely I'm allowed to make my own determination, not blindly accept a journalist's take on it?
November 15, 200916 yr I'm still interested in what was SAID, as opposed to someone else's take on what was said. Surely I'm allowed to make my own determination, not blindly accept a journalist's take on it? Absolutely you are. But I am not allowed to stake my vote on one issue?
November 15, 200916 yr I'm still interested in what was SAID, as opposed to someone else's take on what was said. Surely I'm allowed to make my own determination, not blindly accept a journalist's take on it? As I mentioned in the other posts, Obama's advisors for the most part, do not go on the record to say things. I will say this, I think Obama is a master at taking the friendliness that the media provided him in the Democrat primary to the Presidential election to now and give them off-the-record stories that lets them have a news coverage without much work for them. They feed us what the President and his advisors want with them not having to sully their hands with any official comments. I think the Foxnews mess was a classic misreading the nature of the landscape out there by them. They thought the media would fall for their side and dismiss them. The ones with their lips firmly rooted to Obama's backside did just that. But those others that like the friendliness but weren't blinded by Obama saw that they soon could be on the Foxnews side if they went against Obama, didn't fall for it.
November 15, 200916 yr I'm still interested in what was SAID, as opposed to someone else's take on what was said. Surely I'm allowed to make my own determination, not blindly accept a journalist's take on it? http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/bill-clinton-cl.html In his inimitable fashion, former President Bill Clinton told Philadelphia's WHYY radio that his South Carolina-primary comparison of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, to Rev. Jesse Jackson is an example of HIS being the victim of ugly racial politics. “I think that they played the race card on me," Clinton said. "We now know, from memos from the campaign that they planned to do it along." Now remember this is Bill Clinton making these claims. Not FoxNews. Not a rightwing conspiracy. Not a Republican operative but BILL CLINTON.
November 15, 200916 yr http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/bill-clinton-cl.html In his inimitable fashion, former President Bill Clinton told Philadelphia's WHYY radio that his South Carolina-primary comparison of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, to Rev. Jesse Jackson is an example of HIS being the victim of ugly racial politics. “I think that they played the race card on me," Clinton said. "We now know, from memos from the campaign that they planned to do it along." Now remember this is Bill Clinton making these claims. Not FoxNews. Not a rightwing conspiracy. Not a Republican operative but BILL CLINTON. This is STILL not what THEY said.
November 15, 200916 yr Absolutely you are. But I am not allowed to stake my vote on one issue? You are allowed to do with your vote whatever you want. Even if you get taken for it.
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