What are my alternatives? Run to the DNC that wants to protect and even expand abortions by having the government pay for them?

 

Understand that the RNC has used and continues to use the issue to lasso in those one issue voters, simply with rhetoric, not with any meaningful plan. As long as they can cry "no abortions!" they are going to get votes, whether they do anything or not.

Absolutely, here too.

 

They were wrong for allowing this and if I would have known it then, it very well may have changed my vote EXCEPT...I would bet that if they policy would have come to light at anytime in the past, it would have been changed then too.

 

The thing moving forward is that that 1) the RNC has corrected the mistake and I would bet that I can safely assume that the DNC is still taking the donation dollars that are being sent to them and funding the killing of unborn children; 2) that the RNC still is the best hope for the unborn children of our future in getting the genocide in this country being masked as "a woman's choice" in getting stopped.

 

The ironically funny thing is that we here over and over about a woman's right to do what they want with their body but I don't see the legalizing drugs and prostitution planks in the DNC platform.

 

I guess abortion and the killing of unborn children is one of the few places that a woman's right to do what they want with their body is a political rallying cry.

 

I don't believe the DNC gives a rat patootie about a woman's right, just a woman's vote.

I don't believe the RNC gives a rat patootie about killing unborn babies. They just know that getting the Christian majority in a frizzy will usually produce good numbers at the polls. :lol:

Understand that the RNC has used and continues to use the issue to lasso in those one issue voters, simply with rhetoric, not with any meaningful plan. As long as they can cry "no abortions!" they are going to get votes, whether they do anything or not.

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There isn't an elected Republican that wants to see Roe V. Wade overturned. It would be a death blow to the GOP.

Understand that the RNC has used and continues to use the issue to lasso in those one issue voters, simply with rhetoric, not with any meaningful plan. As long as they can cry "no abortions!" they are going to get votes, whether they do anything or not.

 

And the bolded is a continued cry from the left that is not truthful and I have debunked on here before.

 

The Republican Congress in the late 90's outlawed partial birth abortion in which Clinton vetoed and felt is was acceptable for a baby to be partially sticking out of a woman and then be aborted.

 

When W was put into office, it was sent back across the President's desk and outlawed and I believe survived a Supreme Court appeal. I could be mistaken on the SC, but think it did.

 

You might remember the brouhaha that Obama did on the first days in which he put BACK INTO place several issues that allowed for funding for promotiont of abortions and allowed them on military bases (for some reason memory isn't fully alert this morning so I think that was one) that W had outlawed.

 

In addition, they have appointed SC justices that seem to be poised to overtturn R v W until the election of Obama and him appointing justices that will continue the genocide in this country hiding as choice.

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There isn't an elected Republican that wants to see Roe V. Wade overturned. It would be a death blow to the GOP.

 

I counter with there isn't an elected Democrat that wants poverty to be solved. It would be a death blow to the Donkeys.

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There isn't an elected Republican that wants to see Roe V. Wade overturned. It would be a death blow to the GOP.

 

And we can continue this game....

 

There isn't an elected Democrat that wants to see racism solved. It would be a death blow to the Donkeys.

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There isn't an elected Republican that wants to see Roe V. Wade overturned. It would be a death blow to the GOP.

 

You could counter with....well the Republicans don't want every country to bow to the US as the best and do what they want or they can't sell a strong military as a politically rallying cry.

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They don't even have to make the kool aid strong for the one issue voters. Just a little hint of flavor.

 

When you have no other alternative because the other side thinks killing of unborn children is acceptable in this country, you are right.

 

Remember it was the Dems who thought a partial birth abortion is acceptable. It was the Democrats that think the below is acceptable and if left up to THEM would still be going on in this country.

 

Remember it was the DEMS who kept the below legal in this country through the Clinton Presidency.

 

 

http://www.abortionfacts.com/partial_birth/faq.asp

 

ARE THE BABIES ALIVE DURING THE ABORTION?

 

Yes! On July 11, 1995, American Medical News (AMA’s official journal) submitted the transcript of a tape-recorded interview with abortionist Dr. Martin Haskell to the House Judiciary Committee in which he admitted: “...the majority of fetuses aborted this way (partial birth abortion) are alive until the end of the procedure.”

 

IS THIS TYPE OF ABORTION RARE?

 

When this type of procedure first became public knowledge, those defending it said it was only done a few hundred times a year. Then Ron Fitzsimmons, the executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers admitted on ABC’s “Nightline” (11/95) that he had lied when he asserted the procedure was used rarely and only on women whose lives were in danger. The reality is, this gruesome method of killing partially born babies is done many thousands of times a year. Abortionist, Dr. McMahon, admitted in 1995 to performing over 2000 partial birth abortions.

 

IS THIS TYPE OF ABORTION EVER DONE ON THIRD TRIMESTER BABIES?

 

Yes. While most babies are in their 20th to 24th week when aborted in this manner, babies are aborted as late as the ninth month! This was admitted to by abortionist Dr. McMahon who, in 1995, submitted to the House Judiciary Constitution Subcommittee a graph and explanation that showed he aborted healthy babies even in the third trimester!

 

As disturbing as this sounds, these are the facts. In this country medical doctors are partially delivering babies and then killing them. These babies are inches from being born. Many could be born and placed directly in the loving arms of childless couples for adoption. Instead, they are cruelly killed. Some call this abortion. No matter what you call it, you cannot alter the reality - 4 more inches out of the womb and this act would be called murder.

This might be good. :popcorn:

 

Enjoying your popcorn?

I counter with there isn't an elected Democrat that wants poverty to be solved. It would be a death blow to the Donkeys.

Neither of the issues you mention go against the Dems core beliefs as much as abortion does for the GOP. The Christian right is being taken for a ride by the GOP...mainly due to their eagerness to vote blindly on one issue and not dive further into a candidates policies/positions.

I don't believe the RNC gives a rat patootie about killing unborn babies. They just know that getting the Christian majority in a frizzy will usually produce good numbers at the polls. :lol:

 

What is ironically funny about the bolded is that when the other side has no other point in the debate and cannot answer the points being made, they stutter and stammer and say with the tone that somehow it is an insult, well you are just letting your Christian views get in the way.

 

But I do not believe I have brought a single Christian point into this debate in this thread. And for the most part, I don't bring Christian viewpoints into this debate.

 

But rather this point can be argued that a society should be bound to protect the most innocent of that society. And you can judge a society based on how they protect the most innocent.

 

And this country, we allow them to be killed in the name of a choice.

 

Think about that. We allow a woman to KILL THEIR UNBORN CHILD and say that's a CHOICE but won't give that SAME WOMEN a CHOICE to do with HER BODY what she wants in making a living by having SEX with that same body.

 

That is messed up.

 

Ladies, you can kill your own child and that is acceptable but we cannot let you support your family by using that same body to have sex.

 

Where is the Democrat plank in the platform for that choice of what a woman does with her own body?

Neither of the issues you mention go against the Dems core beliefs as much as abortion does for the GOP. The Christian right is being taken for a ride by the GOP...mainly due to their eagerness to vote blindly on one issue and not dive further into a candidates policies/positions.

 

As I told my parents, I don't care about the other issues as long as this country still considers it acceptable to kill unborn children.

 

They and you can continue to place the money in your pockets above the killing unborn children as much as you want. To me, the killing of unborn children trumps those other issues.

 

And you don't really believe that solving poverty is not a supposed core belief of the Democrat National Party, do you?

As I told my parents, I don't care about the other issues as long as this country still considers it acceptable to kill unborn children.

 

They and you can continue to place the money in your pockets above the killing unborn children as much as you want. To me, the killing of unborn children trumps those other issues.

 

And you don't really believe that solving poverty is not a supposed core belief of the Democrat National Party, do you?

I never said it wasn't a "core belief"...I just said it didn't go against their other beliefs. To me, the GOP's abortion stance seems to philosophically go against their other beliefs.

What is ironically funny about the bolded is that when the other side has no other point in the debate and cannot answer the points being made, they stutter and stammer and say with the tone that somehow it is an insult, well you are just letting your Christian views get in the way.

 

But I do not believe I have brought a single Christian point into this debate in this thread. And for the most part, I don't bring Christian viewpoints into this debate.

 

But rather this point can be argued that a society should be bound to protect the most innocent of that society. And you can judge a society based on how they protect the most innocent.

 

And this country, we allow them to be killed in the name of a choice.

 

Think about that. We allow a woman to KILL THEIR UNBORN CHILD and say that's a CHOICE but won't give that SAME WOMEN a CHOICE to do with HER BODY what she wants in making a living by having SEX with that same body.

 

That is messed up.

 

Ladies, you can kill your own child and that is acceptable but we cannot let you support your family by using that same body to have sex.

 

Where is the Democrat plank in the platform for that choice of what a woman does with her own body?

I'm not sure if you are trying to insinuate that I have no other points in this debate. So I'll refrain from addressing that point until I'm clear on that.

 

OK...ARE YOU READY FOR THIS????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I TOTALLY agree with you on this part. It doesn't make any logical sense to be for a woman's choice on abortion and not also support legalized prostitution.

 

Though, as you probably know...I also don't really agree with the Dems on much either.