Situation:

 

Time 1:40 remains in the 4th Quarter.

4th and 30

Ball on team K's own 19 yard.

 

Team K leads 28-22.

 

 

Team K lines up to punt the ball. The K's punter lines up at his own 7 yard line to punt the ball (12 yards behind the LOS) and actually kicks the ball from near his own 10 yard line. Team K's punter kicks the ball practically straight up in the air very hight and to the right and the ball travels approximately 10 yards in front of the punter. The ball lands at the LOS (19 yard line) or just behind the LOS.

 

Team R's players retreat from the ball yelling "Peter, Peter, Peter" because the ball is kicked so short. The ball just sits on the field for what seems like eternity and everyone assumes that Team K is not trying to kill the ball because the clock is running and they are clinging to a SIX point lead.

 

Finally a player from team K races over and picks up the football and returns it 81 yards for a touchdown.

 

 

 

Can someone please explain what just happened and point me in the right direction in the rule book that explains this.

 

 

Am I correct to assume that if a scrimmage kick does not travel to the LOS or beyond that team K can advance the kick.

Situation:

 

Time 1:40 remains in the 4th Quarter.

4th and 30

Ball on team K's own 19 yard.

 

Team K leads 28-22.

 

 

Team K lines up to punt the ball. The K's punter lines up at his own 7 yard line to punt the ball (12 yards behind the LOS) and actually kicks the ball from near his own 10 yard line. Team K's punter kicks the ball practically straight up in the air very hight and to the right and the ball travels approximately 10 yards in front of the punter. The ball lands at the LOS (19 yard line) or just behind the LOS.

 

Team R's players retreat from the ball yelling "Peter, Peter, Peter" because the ball is kicked so short. The ball just sits on the field for what seems like eternity and everyone assumes that Team K is not trying to kill the ball because the clock is running and they are clinging to a SIX point lead.

 

Finally a player from team K races over and picks up the football and returns it 81 yards for a touchdown.

 

 

 

Can someone please explain what just happened and point me in the right direction in the rule book that explains this.

 

 

Am I correct to assume that if a scrimmage kick does not travel to the LOS or beyond that team K can advance the kick.

 

You are correct.

 

Rule 6-2-3...Any K player may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.

NFHS Rule:

 

6-2-3:

Any K player may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.

GEEZ......I thought I might actually beat you to one, OFFSIDE.

NFHS Rule:

 

6-2-3:

Any K player may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.

 

Well played, grasshopper.

NFHS Rule:

 

6-2-3:

Any K player may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.

 

If he had not advanced far enough for a first down, would it be turned over on downs or does it give 1st down after the punt?

If he had not advanced far enough for a first down, would it be turned over on downs or does it give 1st down after the punt?

 

It's just like any other play: if the line to gain is not made on 4th down, it would result in a new series for the defense.

Wow. I didn't realize that was just on any punt. I have always thought once the punt was kicked posession changed hands unless it was blocked. And, if blocked, whether team K could advance the ball depended on if it traveled past the L.O.S.

 

My question now is "What constitutes a try?" Is a 'try' a Point After or Field Goal?

Wow. I didn't realize that was just on any punt. I have always thought once the punt was kicked posession changed hands unless it was blocked. And, if blocked, whether team K could advance the ball depended on if it traveled past the L.O.S.

 

My question now is "What constitutes a try?" Is a 'try' a Point After or Field Goal?

 

NFHS:

8-3-1

After a touchdown, the scoring team shall attempt a try during which the ball is snapped from a spot designated by A anywhere between the inbounds lines on B's 3-yard line, unless moved by a penalty. This involves a scrimmage down which is neither numbered nor timed.

Can the defense make a fair catch in this scenario???

You are correct.

 

Rule 6-2-3...Any K player may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.

 

Wow, I did not know that. I'll bet there is a coach or two right now drawing up the "behind the LOS punt" trick play. :sssh:

Can the defense make a fair catch in this scenario???

 

Or would it be considered an interception/fumble recovery?

Can the defense make a fair catch in this scenario???

 

6-5-1:

Any receiver may signal for a fair catch while any legal kick is in flight. Any receiver who has given a valid or invalid fair-catch signal is prohibited from blocking until the kick has ended.

Wow. I didn't realize that was just on any punt. I have always thought once the punt was kicked posession changed hands unless it was blocked. And, if blocked, whether team K could advance the ball depended on if it traveled past the L.O.S.

 

My question now is "What constitutes a try?" Is a 'try' a Point After or Field Goal?

 

A Try is an "extra point" attempt after a touchdown. It can be attempted by a run or pass for 2 points, or a drop kick or place kick for 1 point.

 

The Try ends when: the defense secures possession, it is apparent that the drop kick or place kick will not score, the try is successful, or the ball becomes dead for any reason.

 

A Field Goal attempt is a place kick or a drop kick from scrimmage, or from a free kick following a fair catch or an awarded fair catch. A successful Field Goal is worth 3 points.

 

Unsuccessful Field Goal attempts are live balls just like Punts. They can be advanced by K if recovered in or behind the neutral zone; can be caught or recovered by R and advanced; can be "downed" by K resulting in a new series awarded to R; and become a touchback when the kick crosses R's goal line.

Wow, I did not know that. I'll bet there is a coach or two right now drawing up the "behind the LOS punt" trick play. :sssh:

 

I know one team that is drawing up trick plays for this scenario right now.

 

It is ridiculous to lose a game because of this situation. One team's ineptness leads to these circumstances.