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Beechwood 28 Covington Holy Cross 7

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Injuries have absolutely killed HC season. Went into the game tonight with 9 injured, 4 starters. Now Marcel their QB has injured his shoulder on his throwing arm.

Teipel ran wild again.Guess around 200 yards.Great job Tigers ! Hope all the lineman got out of this with there knees.It is shocking how much chop blocking I have seen the last couple weeks.

Hope Marcel will be OK ,BEST WISHES TO HIM .

Teipel ran wild again.Guess around 200 yards.Great job Tigers ! Hope all the lineman got out of this with there knees.It is shocking how much chop blocking I have seen the last couple weeks.

Hope Marcel will be OK ,BEST WISHES TO HIM .

 

I'm pleased you're not making the same negative chop blocking assertions against HC like you did vs. Beechwood's previous opponent.

 

Perhaps you have difficulty judging the "free blocking zone" ?? Blocks below the waist are allowed on the LOS (it's a legal technique to seal the DE and/or OLB when running wide).

 

;)

What seed does Holy Cross have?

 

They still have to play Newport for the final seeding game next week. If they win they are the two seed and if they lose they are tied for second seed with both Lloyd and Newport.

Blocks below the waist are legal if the block occurs in the free blocking zone by a member of the offense who is on the line of scrimmage and against the defense who is on their line of scrimmage....the ball must also still be in the zone as well. In order for all of these things to be met....the block usually needs to happen immediately at the snap. If there is any delay before the blocker goes low, the ball has probably almost always left the zone, making the block illegal.

 

For the record.....a "chop block" is a block that occurs below the waist on a defender that is already engaged by another member of the offense.

I'm pleased you're not making the same negative chop blocking assertions against HC like you did vs. Beechwood's previous opponent.

 

Perhaps you have difficulty judging the "free blocking zone" ?? Blocks below the waist are allowed on the LOS (it's a legal technique to seal the DE and/or OLB when running wide).

 

;)

 

I know when it is legal and illegal and have seen alot of both the last 2 weeks.I understand why it is done.And I also know it is taught in a manner to "walk the line" the line of the rule.Fact is if the o-lineman could successfully block without chopping they would not chop,then they could move down field in the play and possibly get another block once the ball is around the corner.IF IT GETS THERE!

Blocks below the waist are legal if the block occurs in the free blocking zone by a member of the offense who is on the line of scrimmage and against the defense who is on their line of scrimmage....the ball must also still be in the zone as well. In order for all of these things to be met....the block usually needs to happen immediately at the snap. If there is any delay before the blocker goes low, the ball has probably almost always left the zone, making the block illegal.

 

For the record.....a "chop block" is a block that occurs below the waist on a defender that is already engaged by another member of the offense.

 

Exactly...

 

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Blocks below the waist are legal if the block occurs in the free blocking zone by a member of the offense who is on the line of scrimmage and against the defense who is on their line of scrimmage....the ball must also still be in the zone as well. In order for all of these things to be met....the block usually needs to happen immediately at the snap. If there is any delay before the blocker goes low, the ball has probably almost always left the zone, making the block illegal.

 

For the record.....a "chop block" is a block that occurs below the waist on a defender that is already engaged by another member of the offense.

 

THEREFORE CUTTING/CHOPPING A OLB IS ILLEGAL UNLESS HE LINES UP ON THE LINE ,correct?

Well the way i understood what the referee was saying is that the tight end's were lining up to far outside of the tackle box to chop. My question is how are these kids supposed to know if they're a half of a yard to wide to where they can't chop someone?

And there's also a judgement aspect to the call - it must be intentional. If an engaged defensive player trips over a falling/fallen offensive player, it is NOT a chop.

THEREFORE CUTTING/CHOPPING A OLB IS ILLEGAL UNLESS HE LINES UP ON THE LINE ,correct?

 

I'd agree, UNLESS the OLB is crashing the LOS on the snap (of course the LB is then IN the FBZ).

NFHS Rules

 

2.17.1

The free-blocking zone is a rectangular area extending laterally 4 yards either side of the spot of the snap and 3 yards behing each line of scrimmage. A player is in the free-blocking zone when any part of his body is in the zone at the snap.

 

2.17.2

Blocking below the waist is permitted in the free-blocking zone when the following conditions are met:

a. All players involved in the blocking are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap.

b. The contact is in the zone

 

2.17.5

the free-blocking zone disintegrates and the exception for a player to block below the waist and/or the exception for an offensive lineman to clip and /or block in the back is not to continue after the ball has left the zone.

I suppose this is what some teams need to do when they are out-manned or losing 27-7 after a quarter or so of play.

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