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Hezbollah overruns west Beirut as Lebanon on brink

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Not in the least. People who publicly express support for terrorist groups like Hezbollah should be looking over their shoulders.
:thumb: Without a doubt.
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Does anyone on BGP plan to report me to Homeland Big Brother.

 

Fine I will retract slightly, I support the peaceful turn over of all of Israel back to Palestine.

Why?
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Does anyone on BGP plan to report me to Homeland Big Brother.

 

Fine I will retract slightly, I support the peaceful turn over of all of Israel back to Palestine.

No member has to report you. This is a public forum, at least part of the time. IMO, it is foolish to express support for a terrorist organization online, whether you mean it or not. Either way, you could find yourself on the no-fly list in a hurry.

I guess you could say I am a intellectual supporter of Palestine. I would never myself use violence to solve my problems.

 

I would say I jumped the gun saying I would support any invasion of Israel in the name of Palestine. I love America and the rights it affords me as a US citizen.

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I guess you could say I am a intellectual supporter of Palestine. I would never myself use violence to solve my problems.

 

I would say I jumped the gun saying I would support any invasion of Israel in the name of Palestine. I love America and the rights it affords me as a US citizen.

:thumb: Spoken like a true American!
I guess you could say I am a intellectual supporter of Palestine. I would never myself use violence to solve my problems.

 

I would say I jumped the gun saying I would support any invasion of Israel in the name of Palestine. I love America and the rights it affords me as a US citizen.

:lol:
:thumb: Spoken like a true American!

 

Yep the ends ALWAYS Justify the means. LOL:dancingpa

Yep the ends ALWAYS Justify the means. LOL:dancingpa

 

 

Actually as far as I am concerned they do in interntational politics.

Actually as far as I am concerned they do in interntational politics.

 

The "Bad Guys" feel this way too.

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It's not possible to support our troops and support the invasion of Israel. Our troops will be fighting alongside Israeli soldiers if all out war breaks out in the Middle East. Anybody who really supports the troops should be hoping that Lebanon's government rids its country of the vermin that call themselves Hezbollah.

 

There will be war if Hezbollah overthrows the government of Lebanon and it will put our troops at grave risk.

Why dont we just leave the middle east all together, fortify our borders, and let the good times roll.

The "Bad Guys" feel this way too.

 

 

Then we need to eradicate them before they do us. If some collateral damage ensues then it is unfortunate, but I won't shed a tear.

 

Gooch it is best you don't try to talk to me from a "moral" standpoint in a case like this. I don't care about moral high ground one iota where a war is concerned. If there was an actual invasion of Israel (whether they deserve the land or not) by Iran or SPONSORED by Iran I would wholeheartedly endorse sending squadrons of bombers and many a flight of missiles into Iran to erase it from the map. Much like Rome once salted the earth in Carthage.

 

That being said I would rather it not come to that as it could lead to a further waste in human resources by many countries.

Also for what it is worth I don't feel that either side in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is wholly right. Is it unfortunate that Palestinians were forced from their homes by might of arms? Yeah, I could see that, but at the same time I cannot condemn Israel for doing that since we were notorious for doing it to the indigenous population in the America.

 

Israel was given land by the UN and the Palestinians were given this land. The Jewish settlers claim it is theirs by ancestral right and the fact that they were forcibly expelled by the Romans after their final uprising. The Palestinians have more or less been living there ever since, so they have ancestral claims to it as well. Who is right? There is no right here if you ask me.

 

I honestly feel that the Arab nations surrounding Israel have not helped the problem by seemingly refusing to try to assimilate the refugees.

Then we need to eradicate them before they do us. If some collateral damage ensues then it is unfortunate, but I won't shed a tear.

 

Gooch it is best you don't try to talk to me from a "moral" standpoint in a case like this. I don't care about moral high ground one iota where a war is concerned. If there was an actual invasion of Israel (whether they deserve the land or not) by Iran or SPONSORED by Iran I would wholeheartedly endorse sending squadrons of bombers and many a flight of missiles into Iran to erase it from the map. Much like Rome once salted the earth in Carthage.

 

That being said I would rather it not come to that as it could lead to a further waste in human resources by many countries.

 

I may not be religous, and some may find my sense of morals skewed. But War and violence is hardly ever the answer. When we talk about eradicating millions of innocents to kill a few guiltys then we have crossed a line that makes us no better than them.

 

Iran may talk a big game, but everyone in the middle east knows that we are just crazy enough to make a parking lot out of their country if they mess with us. The key word there, is mess with us. To save ourselves we must completley pull ourselves out of the mess in the middle east and begin to fix our own country. Protect these United States. A amazingly fortified homeland and nothing else.

I may not be religous, and some may find my sense of morals skewed. But War and violence is hardly ever the answer. When we talk about eradicating millions of innocents to kill a few guiltys then we have crossed a line that makes us no better than them.

 

Iran may talk a big game, but everyone in the middle east knows that we are just crazy enough to make a parking lot out of their country if they mess with us. The key word there, is mess with us. To save ourselves we must completley pull ourselves out of the mess in the middle east and begin to fix our own country. Protect these United States. A amazingly fortified homeland and nothing else.

 

 

We have done it before, Dresden and Wurzburg come to mind along with Monte Cassino. The "makes us no better than them" argument is irrelevant to me. In a war the innocent sometimes have to die, it is not a desirable outcome but sometimes it has to be done.

 

For what it is worth I don't think we are "just crazy enough to make a parking lot out of their country," mostly because the majority of Americans have an idealistic outlook of conflict and can't understand that the "bad guys" and "good guys" are a purely subjective concept. They don't have the stomach to do what is necessary when it comes down to it.

 

Do I want to do that sort of thing? No, I would rather not have people die. Not so much because I find all life sacred and needing to be protected, if I did I would be a Buddhist monk in seclusion so as t avoid harming any sort of living thing. No, it is more because I know how much I would prefer to live and I would suppose that their desire is similar.

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