Louisiana Joe Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Is there a KHSAA rule that prevents high school teams from practicing or going to camps as a team during the spring and summer? My son use to practice throughout the spring and summer with his team in Louisiana which I believe made a big difference during the season. I don’t see the same commitment here in Louisville.
Henry521 Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Is there a KHSAA rule that prevents high school teams from practicing or going to camps as a team during the spring and summer? My son use to practice throughout the spring and summer with his team in Louisiana which I believe made a big difference during the season. I don’t see the same commitment here in Louisville. What school does he attend?
Louisiana Joe Posted January 23, 2008 Author Posted January 23, 2008 I don’t want to identify the specific school he attends, but let’s just say he is in one of the top five 6A schools.
gorocks1791 Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Is there a KHSAA rule that prevents high school teams from practicing or going to camps as a team during the spring and summer? My son use to practice throughout the spring and summer with his team in Louisiana which I believe made a big difference during the season. I don’t see the same commitment here in Louisville. I don't believe there is a rule.
Ram Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Bylaw 25. Limitation of Seasons Sec. 5) Sports Specifi c Limitations - Football - Boys 1) Organized non-contact practice shall not begin prior to July 15. During this non-contact period, a helmet, shoulder pads and shoes are the only football equipment that may be worn. The fi rst date of practice in full pads shall be the earlier of August 1 or seven (7) week days (not counting Saturdays and Sundays) prior to the opening day of school (which shall be defi ned as the day prior to the classes starting for the student body), but under no circumstances can be prior to the fourth Friday before the fi rst regular season playing date. After contact practice (practice in pads) has begun and prior to the fi rst day of classes for the students, no school may conduct multiple onfi eld practice sessions in pads (e.g., two-a-days or three-a-days) on consecutive days (e.g., two-one two-one format). After the opening day of the school year, no school may conduct multiple on-fi eld practice sessions in pads (e.g., two-a-days or three-adays) on a day in which school is in session. All schools shall submit all required documentation to verify the proper execution of the practice regulations, including scrimmage, contact, and heat/safety regulations and recommendations. 2) There shall be no more than two (2) scrimmages or practice games per member school (grades 9-12) prior to the opening varsity game of the season with players other than members of the squad. 3) The fi rst game at any level shall not take place prior to the Friday eleven (11) weekends prior to the weekend of the fi rst round of the state playoffs. 4) A maximum of ten (10) regular season games may be played. 5) The opportunity to participate in regular season contests ends at all levels of play (grades 9-12) on the Saturday preceding the fi rst KHSAA Tournament (District, Region or State), with the exception that the varsity team may practice and play through its elimination from KHSAA sanctioned tournament play. Following elimination, there shall be no further practice or play during the remainder of the academic school year. 6) Each player, in order to be eligible to participate against another school, shall have taken part in a minimum of ten (10) practice periods extending over a period of ten (10) days during the preceding three weeks. 7) Every player must have fi ve (5) days of practice without pads to become acclimated to heat conditions immediately prior to the fi rst day of practice in pads. 8) Each football school may conduct ten (10) practice periods of not more than two (2) hours in length and not more than one practice per day over ten (10) days during the three calendar school weeks following the school’s elimination from postseason play in basketball. All equipment authorized by the football playing rules may be used during this period. There can be no inter-school competition during this period, and all participants must be eligible according to all KHSAA eligibility rules
Ram Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 ^Weight lifting and conditioning is not considered practice. And, you can have 7 on 7 passing scrimmages in the spring. You are aloud to attend contact team camps, except during the dead period. No organized functions are aloud during the dead period, of any kind. So, to summarize. You can have weightlifting and conditioning year around, except for dead period. You can have ten spring practices. You can have 7 on 7 passing scrimages. You can have non contact practice, starting in July. You can start contact practice prior to the season. You can have two scrimmages prior to the season.
Henry521 Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Ram pretty much covered it for KY. What did they do in Louisiana?
Louisiana Joe Posted January 23, 2008 Author Posted January 23, 2008 Ram pretty much covered it for KY. What did they do in Louisiana? I believe strength and conditioning ran from January through March. There were several (3 or 4) weeks of spring full contact practices that ended with a spring game against another school. During the summer there was strength and conditioning in the early morning and team practice (helmets and shorts) in the afternoon with 2-3 football camps as a group.
Ram Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 I believe strength and conditioning ran from January through March. There were several (3 or 4) weeks of spring full contact practices that ended with a spring game against another school. During the summer there was strength and conditioning in the early morning and team practice (helmets and shorts) in the afternoon with 2-3 football camps as a group. Ah, I can only dream. Maybe Kentucky can someday catch up to states such as Louisiana, Florida, and Texas.
kissinger Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 ^Weight lifting and conditioning is not considered practice. And, you can have 7 on 7 passing scrimmages in the spring. You are aloud to attend contact team camps, except during the dead period. No organized functions are aloud during the dead period, of any kind. So, to summarize. You can have weightlifting and conditioning year around, except for dead period. You can have ten spring practices. You can have 7 on 7 passing scrimages. You can have non contact practice, starting in July. You can start contact practice prior to the season. You can have two scrimmages prior to the season. One clarification Ram. You can't have 7 on 7 or anything school based until school is out (if the team is together or the coaches are there).
Ram Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 One clarification Ram. You can't have 7 on 7 or anything school based until school is out (if the team is together or the coaches are there). :thumb:My fault, I did state that to well.
Louisiana Joe Posted January 23, 2008 Author Posted January 23, 2008 Did something happen in the past that required all of these rules/restrictions from the KHSAA?
leatherneck Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Did something happen in the past that required all of these rules/restrictions from the KHSAA? I don't think that was the case. I think its more of a desire to try and not "hurt" other sports for the benefit of one plus the desire to allow kids to be kids and have a life outside of high school sports. 3 or 4 weeks of Spring football would really hurt baseball and track. I don't know much about high schools in La., but in Ky there are a bunch of smaller schools that can only field teams in multiple sports if kids are able to play multiple sports. That necessitates putting restrictions in place. While Ky may not be as football friendly as La., ironically we are more lenient than in Ohio. They don't permit any Spring football. At the end of the day, Ky has tried to balance the sport practice and playing seasons for the benefit of the kids.
Louisiana Joe Posted January 23, 2008 Author Posted January 23, 2008 I don't think that was the case. I think its more of a desire to try and not "hurt" other sports for the benefit of one plus the desire to allow kids to be kids and have a life outside of high school sports. 3 or 4 weeks of Spring football would really hurt baseball and track. I don't know much about high schools in La., but in Ky there are a bunch of smaller schools that can only field teams in multiple sports if kids are able to play multiple sports. That necessitates putting restrictions in place. While Ky may not be as football friendly as La., ironically we are more lenient than in Ohio. They don't permit any Spring football. At the end of the day, Ky has tried to balance the sport practice and playing seasons for the benefit of the kids. Interesting. I'm glad we did not move to Ohio....
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