December 6, 200718 yr Dahmer actually plead not guilty by reason of insanity...but, I think the evidence police found in his apartment was pretty convincing to say the least. Anyway, I don't feel compelled to go into great detail defending my beliefs.
December 6, 200718 yr So confession to the crime becomes paramount to getting the death penalty? I could see that, but sure is probably going to cut down on the confessions that the court system might get. OK...kill 'em all...let God sort 'em out. I think I saw a shirt like that once...we should just live by that motto. :thumb:
December 6, 200718 yr Dahmer actually plead not guilty by reason of insanity...but, I think the evidence police found in his apartment was pretty convincing to say the least. Anyway, I don't feel compelled to go into great detail defending my beliefs. Please don't feel I am attacking you. As I said, my thoughts on this issue are still evolving and I am not sure that I have an mindset or at least the mindset I once had, may very well be changing. So I am asking the questions that I mull over in my own distorted mind when looking at this issue. I am looking for input and information on such types of questions that might help direct me to a position I feel comfortable with. Right now, don't have one on this issue.
December 6, 200718 yr Personally, as I said, I'm pro-life and against the death penalty. I feel more strongly about abortion, mainly because it's an innocent life that has no chance to defend itself, which has been stated in this thread. The death penalty is a little more complicated. The overriding reason I'm against it personally is that the Bible teaches that anyone can be forgiven and saved through faith in Jesus Christ, regardless of how big of a sinner they were...even death row inmates. If they're sentenced to life in prison as opposed to death, it's possible they may come to salvation at some point during their incarceration. Whether it's probable or unlikely is not for me to determine...just that it's possible. However, as I stated, in some cases, like Jeffrey Dahmer when they have an eye witness who testifies that Dahmer lured him to his apartment and attempted to kill him and then they find body parts in freezer bags and it's overwhelmingly obvious that they have the right man, then I'm not really going to argue against the death penalty. I wouldn't really have a problem either way. But, there are other cases when the evidence isn't so overwhelming...those are the times when I feel we should only go as far as a life sentence. It's just a case where, as a citizen, I'm OK with the governments decision on the matter, whether I personally would have carried out the same sentence or not. I just feel like, as a Christian, I should be on the side that gives any person as much time to live as possible because it gives them more time to possibly accept Christ. Sometimes that requires a separation of my personal feelings and emotions from what the Bible says...because, believe me, there are some criminals/murderers that my initial thought is that death is too good for them. I'm not even saying my view is right...it is what it is...my view. I try to look at it as if the sole decision on whether that person is executed or not is mine and I'll be the one "pulling the lever"...in that case, I just don't think I could do it. It's much easier to remove yourself from the situation to some degree and say, "Give 'em the death penalty." I have no problem with the idea that there are times when execution is the correct course of action...I just don't think I could ever make that decision myself. That's why I'd view myself as being against the death penalty...for the most part...
December 6, 200718 yr Personally, as I said, I'm pro-life and against the death penalty. I feel more strongly about abortion, mainly because it's an innocent life that has no chance to defend itself, which has been stated in this thread. The death penalty is a little more complicated. The overriding reason I'm against it personally is that the Bible teaches that anyone can be forgiven and saved through faith in Jesus Christ, regardless of how big of a sinner they were...even death row inmates. If they're sentenced to life in prison as opposed to death, it's possible they may come to salvation at some point during their incarceration. Whether it's probable or unlikely is not for me to determine...just that it's possible. However, as I stated, in some cases, like Jeffrey Dahmer when they have an eye witness who testifies that Dahmer lured him to his apartment and attempted to kill him and then they find body parts in freezer bags and it's overwhelmingly obvious that they have the right man, then I'm not really going to argue against the death penalty. I wouldn't really have a problem either way. But, there are other cases when the evidence isn't so overwhelming...those are the times when I feel we should only go as far as a life sentence. It's just a case where, as a citizen, I'm OK with the governments decision on the matter, whether I personally would have carried out the same sentence or not. I just feel like, as a Christian, I should be on the side that gives any person as much time to live as possible because it gives them more time to possibly accept Christ. Sometimes that requires a separation of my personal feelings and emotions from what the Bible says...because, believe me, there are some criminals/murderers that my initial thought is that death is too good for them. I'm not even saying my view is right...it is what it is...my view. I try to look at it as if the sole decision on whether that person is executed or not is mine and I'll be the one "pulling the lever"...in that case, I just don't think I could do it. It's much easier to remove yourself from the situation to some degree and say, "Give 'em the death penalty." I have no problem with the idea that there are times when execution is the correct course of action...I just don't think I could ever make that decision myself. That's why I'd view myself as being against the death penalty...for the most part... You could have typed for me where I am moving to in my view on this. On your last sentence, I thought Mike Huckabee's answer on the death penalty was SO STRONG. He has been the only one on that stage to EVER have to sign the papers to kill someone. And how that decision weighed on him more than most.
December 6, 200718 yr Personally, as I said, I'm pro-life and against the death penalty. I feel more strongly about abortion, mainly because it's an innocent life that has no chance to defend itself, which has been stated in this thread. The death penalty is a little more complicated. The overriding reason I'm against it personally is that the Bible teaches that anyone can be forgiven and saved through faith in Jesus Christ, regardless of how big of a sinner they were...even death row inmates. If they're sentenced to life in prison as opposed to death, it's possible they may come to salvation at some point during their incarceration. Whether it's probable or unlikely is not for me to determine...just that it's possible. However, as I stated, in some cases, like Jeffrey Dahmer when they have an eye witness who testifies that Dahmer lured him to his apartment and attempted to kill him and then they find body parts in freezer bags and it's overwhelmingly obvious that they have the right man, then I'm not really going to argue against the death penalty. I wouldn't really have a problem either way. But, there are other cases when the evidence isn't so overwhelming...those are the times when I feel we should only go as far as a life sentence. It's just a case where, as a citizen, I'm OK with the governments decision on the matter, whether I personally would have carried out the same sentence or not. I just feel like, as a Christian, I should be on the side that gives any person as much time to live as possible because it gives them more time to possibly accept Christ. Sometimes that requires a separation of my personal feelings and emotions from what the Bible says...because, believe me, there are some criminals/murderers that my initial thought is that death is too good for them. I'm not even saying my view is right...it is what it is...my view. I try to look at it as if the sole decision on whether that person is executed or not is mine and I'll be the one "pulling the lever"...in that case, I just don't think I could do it. It's much easier to remove yourself from the situation to some degree and say, "Give 'em the death penalty." I have no problem with the idea that there are times when execution is the correct course of action...I just don't think I could ever make that decision myself. That's why I'd view myself as being against the death penalty...for the most part... :thumb: Agree with you 100% (like usual, except Vince Young:D). Another reason is that society has the resources to protect itself from these people outside of the death penalty.
December 6, 200718 yr :thumb: Agree with you 100% (like usual, except Vince Young:D). Another reason is that society has the resources to protect itself from these people outside of the death penalty. (Vince seems to play pretty good when they'll open it up and let him pass a little more. I think they've handcuffed him too much this season by being so conservative...it's hard to get a read. He's looked good at times, and flat out horrible at others. I'm still confident in him, but his stats are bad this season. No getting around that.) But, that's neither here nor there...:walk:
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