The pitcher cannot receive a fielding error so my guess would be that at that point he is not considered a fielder.

 

Just a guess

The pitcher can receive an error, if attempting to field a ball.

 

What hector meant, was ball must pass the fielders and not just the pitcher, if it strikes a runner, for the ball to remain live.

Are you sure the pitcher isn't considered a fielder in the instance of it hitting the umpire but not in the case of hitting a runner? I think in the umpire case the pitcher is considered a fielder and the ball reamins live. In the event of it hitting a runner before passes a fielder other than the pitcher it is a dead ball.

Are you sure the pitcher isn't considered a fielder in the instance of it hitting the umpire but not in the case of hitting a runner? I think in the umpire case the pitcher is considered a fielder and the ball remains live. In the event of it hitting a runner before passes a fielder other than the pitcher it is a dead ball.

Good question and I've seen a lot of Baseball, never seen a batted ball missed by the pitcher, which struck the base Umpire behind him....

 

Has anyone, seen this?

Are you sure the pitcher isn't considered a fielder in the instance of it hitting the umpire but not in the case of hitting a runner? I think in the umpire case the pitcher is considered a fielder and the ball reamins live. In the event of it hitting a runner before passes a fielder other than the pitcher it is a dead ball.

 

I am 100% sure its a dead ball in both cases in HIgh School.

 

 

Rule 5-1-1-f 1 and 2

 

It is a Dead ball immediately when a fair batted ball:

 

1. touches a runner or umpire before touching any fielder and before passing any fielder other than the pitcher.

 

2. touches a runner after passing through or by an infielder and another infielder could have made a play on the ball

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If it hits the ump after it passes an infielder (other than the pitcher) it is a live ball unless there is another infielder that could make a play on the ball.

 

Hector, the above is not true in OBR. If it hits the umpire once it has passed the pitcher and an infielder, the fact that another infielder might be able to make a play is irrelevant. Its a live ball at that point.

 

Maybe FED is different.

What if the fielder, makes a play on the ball and misses it, goes through the fielder and then it strikes the runner, whom is going behind the fielder?

 

What is the call?

 

It is a live ball in both situations. Once the ball passes an infielder ( other than the pitcher) and in the umpires judgement no other infielder could have made a play on the ball there is no interference and the ball remains live.

 

 

Hector, if the above response is in response to K3's question, it is not correct in OBR. It is a dead ball immediately and there is no provision about another player having a play. Again, it may be in FED but I do not have a FED rulebook.