February 3, 200719 yr Author Does anyone know what Big Name Schools Recruited Richie Farmer, Darren Feldhouse or John Phelphrey? Just Curious Because Im not sure.
February 3, 200719 yr In my opinion, it doesn't matter where they're from. It's a silly argument. Just get the best players you can, be it from Kentucky or Rhode Island. Period.
February 3, 200719 yr I go for Pettigrew from Kentucky for 07 and Mackey and Miller for 08. Even though Mackey has "verballed" to IU, it isn't official because he is just a junior. If I was UK, I get him to become a Wildcat in 2008.
February 3, 200719 yr Author I think that your logic regarding in-state recruits is flawed. Outside of Lofton, I cannot think of any KY kids who have made much of an impact in NCAA Hoops lately. From what info I can gather in-state kids don't really determine how good your team will be unless the in-state kids are also the best kids. Take a look at the current AP top 15. Florida - 20% of starters from Florida Wisconsin - 60% of starter from Wisconsin North Carolina - 20% of starters from North Carolina Ohio State - 60% of starters from Ohio UCLA - 80% of starters from California Kansas - 0% of starters from Kansas Pittsburg - 40% of starters from Pennsylvania Duke - 0% of starters from North Carolina Oregon - 20% of starters from Oregon Texas A&M - 80% of starters from Texas Memphis - 20% of starters from Tennessee Oklahoma St. - 0% of starters from Oklahoma Butler - 40% of starters from Indiana Marquette - 20% of starters from Wisconsin Nevada - 0% of starters from Nevada So as you can see looking at the top ranked teams, the amount of in-state recruits appears to have little bearing on the success of the team. Noteably the two teams with the highest percentage of in-state starters are also two of the most populated states in the country. Even more telling is the fact that of these 15 schools, NOT ONE has a players that starts from the state of Kentucky. It's not that Tubby has missed out on in-state kids (Lofton excepted), there just hasn't been much talent over the last several years. Do you think from any of the States Listed,Do any of them compare with the way Kentucky Kids want to Play for UK? Do kids Growing up In Florida dream about Playing B-ball for U-F as much as Kids from Kentucky that dream about playing for UK? The Talent may not be that good but I don't know if it ever was. THe Kentucky Kids are more about Heart and Desire because they know what it means to represent UK Basketball.I know not all kids from KY can compete at UK but I know we have our share of Players.
February 3, 200719 yr Author In my opinion, it doesn't matter where they're from. It's a silly argument. Just get the best players you can, be it from Kentucky or Rhode Island. Period. Just because you get the best players doesn't guarantee Success. Heart,Desire and Chemistry! Thats where it's at.
February 3, 200719 yr I really, really feel the answer is yes...there are so many tremendous basketball players right here in the commonwealth, that if he got 2-3 a year to come to UK, and buy into his system, he is a good enough (great actually, IMO) game coach, to make some serious runs at the title....these kids in this state bleed Kentucky basketball....let them become statewide legends, like the unforgettables, who were a much better team than the current one. :thumb:
February 3, 200719 yr Author I go for Pettigrew from Kentucky for 07 and Mackey and Miller for 08. Even though Mackey has "verballed" to IU, it isn't official because he is just a junior. If I was UK, I get him to become a Wildcat in 2008. Where are these players ranked in the top 100? Remember alot of people here at KY only want Mcdonalds All Americans or top 100 on paper Recruits.
February 3, 200719 yr Does anyone know what Big Name Schools Recruited Richie Farmer, Darren Feldhouse or John Phelphrey? Just Curious Because Im not sure. Did these guys ever make a final four? That is the anti-Tubby groups call to battle. They wouldn't have been happy then either.
February 3, 200719 yr Do you think from any of the States Listed,Do any of them compare with the way Kentucky Kids want to Play for UK? Do kids Growing up In Florida dream about Playing B-ball for U-F as much as Kids from Kentucky that dream about playing for UK? The Talent may not be that good but I don't know if it ever was. THe Kentucky Kids are more about Heart and Desire because they know what it means to represent UK Basketball.I know not all kids from KY can compete at UK but I know we have our share of Players. Your right. I'm sure no one ever dreams of putting on the Carolina Blue or being serandaded with Rock Chalk Jayhawk.
February 3, 200719 yr Just because you get the best players doesn't guarantee Success. Heart,Desire and Chemistry! Thats where it's at. I agree. I guess I wasn't saying just get the best talent. But get the best players with talent mixed with the above characteristics. My main point was that it should have nothing to do with where the player is from, just get the player.
February 3, 200719 yr 1. I'm not sure why a poster opened two threads on the exact same subject. 2. I'll ask what I just asked in the original thread: AD - who has UK not recruited that they should have recruited? We'll give you Lofton. Who else? You either have some solid examples or your point is useless.
February 3, 200719 yr Author 1. I'm not sure why a poster opened two threads on the exact same subject. 2. I'll ask what I just asked in the original thread: AD - who has UK not recruited that they should have recruited? We'll give you Lofton. Who else? You either have some solid examples or your point is useless. So why would you post on this if you have a problem with two threads? Also if you have such a problem with it ask a Mod to shut one down. No big deal to me!
February 3, 200719 yr So why would you post on this if you have a problem with two threads? Also if you have such a problem with it ask a Mod to shut one down. No big deal to me! Your lack of an answer to the true question asked speaks volumes.
February 3, 200719 yr Author Your lack of an answer to the true question asked speaks volumes. Like I said you are right and I am wrong! UK should not recruit in state players!
February 3, 200719 yr Like I said you are right and I am wrong! UK should not recruit in state players! No one else had been why should have UK. Better players are developing in the state and I think Tubby is trying with these kids. But over the last few years the talent has not been there.
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