April 5, 20179 yr Because if the offensive player can touch the ball on the rim but the defensive player can't this is a distinct advantage for the offense. But if the offensive player is able to get position to just give a ball a little tap without going over the back of the defender, hanging on the rim, or committing a foul, then more power to him. The objective is to put the ball in the basket. Who cares how it goes in unless the player is committing a foul?
April 6, 20179 yr But if the offensive player is able to get position to just give a ball a little tap without going over the back of the defender, hanging on the rim, or committing a foul, then more power to him. The objective is to put the ball in the basket. Who cares how it goes in unless the player is committing a foul? That's not the point at all. If the two players are standing side by side and one can touch the ball and the other can't that's the distinct advantage the offensive player has.
April 7, 20179 yr You can't hang on the rim though. What if you have a high riser who you just shoot three's all day and allow him to go catch it and slam it down. Defense can't make a play because of goal tending but offensive guy can jump up, grab it and score.
April 8, 20179 yr What if you have a high riser who you just shoot three's all day and allow him to go catch it and slam it down. Defense can't make a play because of goal tending but offensive guy can jump up, grab it and score. How is that different than an oop?
April 8, 20179 yr That's not the point at all. If the two players are standing side by side and one can touch the ball and the other can't that's the distinct advantage the offensive player has. Yeah but the goal is for the offense to get the ball in the basket without fouling. I don't really care how it's done. Currently in college a defensive player can camp out in the lane because there is no defensive 3 seconds, but obviously an offensive player can't. That's a distinct advantage for the defensive player.
April 8, 20179 yr How is that different than an oop? I think it is very different than an oop. That usually occurs around the basket or on fast breaks. If there is no offensive goaltending I'm recruiting a 7'0 dude to stand on the block and tell the guards to shoot a 3 every time. An oop is lobbed to someone and the defense can attempt to make a play on it. A shot is much different, looks much different, and the defense can do nothing until it hits the rim, while the offensive player could go up and either "guide it in" or grab it and slam it down.
April 8, 20179 yr I think it is very different than an oop. That usually occurs around the basket or on fast breaks. If there is no offensive goaltending I'm recruiting a 7'0 dude to stand on the block and tell the guards to shoot a 3 every time. An oop is lobbed to someone and the defense can attempt to make a play on it. A shot is much different, looks much different, and the defense can do nothing until it hits the rim, while the offensive player could go up and either "guide it in" or grab it and slam it down.If the balls on the rim I don't see problem with the offensive player tapping it in. I don't think that it's a big deal at all. What you're describing seems a deliberate attempt to throw the ball near the hoop knowing that another offensive player is there to dunk it or tap it in the basket. I don't see how that is different than an oop. Basically the determining factor is judging the intent of the shooter/ passer
April 8, 20179 yr How is that different than an oop? He is talking about an offensive player touching the ball IN THE CYLINDER. Just as I have said, if the offensive player can touch the ball in the cylinder and defense can't, that,s an unfair advantage. I just don't think this is that hard a concept to understand.
April 9, 20179 yr He is talking about an offensive player touching the ball IN THE CYLINDER. Just as I have said, if the offensive player can touch the ball in the cylinder and defense can't, that,s an unfair advantage. I just don't think this is that hard a concept to understand. I just don't understand why it's a big deal. If the offensive player is able to do it without committing a foul then I don't think it's a big deal.
April 10, 20179 yr I just don't understand why it's a big deal. If the offensive player is able to do it without committing a foul then I don't think it's a big deal. I give up. If someone else can explain why the offensive player being able to touch the ball on the rim or in the cylinder and the defensive player can't is an advantage for the offensive player please have it.
April 10, 20179 yr I give up. If someone else can explain why the offensive player being able to touch the ball on the rim or in the cylinder and the defensive player can't is an advantage for the offensive player please have it. I want the offensive player to have that advantage. The defense isn't trying to score the offense is. This is likely only something that is even capable of happening once a game or so. I don't see the issue.
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