It is MUCH more difficult to "juggle, fumble, bumble" the ball down the court than it would be to dribble the ball down court. But it is comical to hear how some people would go to great lengths to challenge a rule they don't agree with or like. Most of the rules of basketball have been around for a LONG time btw

 

You haven't seen some of my 5th graders "dribble." :-)

I know your are looking at this from an extreme...but the situation that occurs in these type instances is that the player and ball are out of control. In your scenario, I'm sure a ref won't consider the player to not have control of the ball and would thus call the travel. Although honestly, I don't see 5th grade kids being able to run at full speed while maintaining control of the ball back and forth in their hands. So you may create the out of control aspect by default and I don't see that going in your teams favor often.

 

I was being extreme in the fact that I will teach them to juggle the ball down the floor. Obviously, that was said tongue in cheek. And I agree that most of the time, the refs will call that a travel as they should have in our game the other night since the girl had control of the ball.

You haven't seen some of my 5th graders "dribble." :-)

 

Hahaha touche

Referees are people too

Referees are people too

 

Well that is debatable! I blame Obama on most of it, really! :-)

The "over and back" rule is one that people constantly don't understand. Both feet AND the ball must be established across the line. I see people screaming incorrectly (and referees calling it incorrectly) about this one all the time.

 

Be careful about a blanket statement. You're not 100% correct in your description.

Be careful about a blanket statement. You're not 100% correct in your description.

 

Okay so clarify the rule for us.

I was being extreme in the fact that I will teach them to juggle the ball down the floor. Obviously, that was said tongue in cheek. And I agree that most of the time, the refs will call that a travel as they should have in our game the other night since the girl had control of the ball.

 

In post 15 you said she lost control of the dribble. Now you say she had control. Which is it?

Okay so clarify the rule for us.

 

You said they have to have two feet and the ball over the line. That's ONLY true if the player is dribbling the ball. That's why I said you can't make a blanket statement. If the player is not dribbling the "three points" does not apply.

You said they have to have two feet and the ball over the line. That's ONLY true if the player is dribbling the ball. That's why I said you can't make a blanket statement. If the player is not dribbling the "three points" does not apply.

 

Okay this makes little sense to me. What is the rule if they are not dribbling?

In post 15 you said she lost control of the dribble. Now you say she had control. Which is it?

 

She lost control of the ball when the girl ran by her but then controlled it down the floor while, at that point taking 2-3 steps. I believe that is what I said earlier.

Yes, she had original possession of it and started dribbling down the floor. One of our girls ran by her but never touched the ball, but it disrupted her dribbling and momentum and so she was looking to pass forward and simply started bobbling/juggling it for about 30 feet while taking probably 5-6 steps. It was bizarre and absolutely not the correct call.

 

She lost control of the ball when the girl ran by her but then controlled it down the floor while, at that point taking 2-3 steps. I believe that is what I said earlier.

 

In 15, above, you said she bobbled/juggled it. That's not "controlling" the ball. That's legal.

You said they have to have two feet and the ball over the line. That's ONLY true if the player is dribbling the ball. That's why I said you can't make a blanket statement. If the player is not dribbling the "three points" does not apply.

 

Okay this makes little sense to me. What is the rule if they are not dribbling?

 

Girl catches the ball with her left foot in the front court and her right foot in the back court. She lifts her right foot off the floor and then puts it back down.

 

That's a violation despite the "three points" not having touched the front court. The ball never touched. The back foot never touched. Still a violation. Once she's NOT touching the backcourt when possessing the ball she has front court status.

In 15, above, you said she bobbled/juggled it. That's not "controlling" the ball. That's legal.

 

Have you ever watched a juggler? Are they controlling the objects that they are juggling? Yes. That is the manner in which she juggled the ball over her last three steps so yes, she was controlling the ball. That's a walk.

Girl catches the ball with her left foot in the front court and her right foot in the back court. She lifts her right foot off the floor and then puts it back down.

 

That's a violation despite the "three points" not having touched the front court. The ball never touched. The back foot never touched. Still a violation. Once she's NOT touching the backcourt when possessing the ball she has front court status.

 

Once she picks up the right foot that was in back court, technically both feet and the ball are in front court so my original comment stands and is correct. That is two feet and the ball.