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Is This 80's Number 1 Hit Really the "Worst Rock Song of All Time" ? GQ Thinks So !!!

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Is there music after '79?

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Is there music after '79?

 

Not much !!!

 

My Dad was born in 1919 and graduated from high school in 1937. The music that he loved was understandably from the 30's and the 40's.

 

By the time rock n' roll came about he was already married and raising a family, and there was quite a stark difference in the sound, and with that he then basically quit staying in tune with anything new, and pretty much concluded that nothing was good past the 40's.

 

In my development years I was exposed to his music, as well as music of the late 60's and early 70's with a fair bit of exposure also to music of the 50's.

 

I was in my early teens by the late 70's and was really starting to follow music even more closely, and is when I started buying my first records.

 

By the time I was in high school I had deep roots with music from the 30's to the 70's, but concentrated heavy on the music of the day, sharing the fun with friends, and making lasting memories.

 

At this time I also had a big interest in filling in a ton of gaps of late 60's British Invasion and Woodstock era music.

 

I graduated in 1982 and like most people my age was heavy into the music of the day.

 

During my college aged years in the 80's I continued to keep track and enjoyed the many offerings of the many genres from that era with a huge exposure to MTV.

 

By the time the 90's rolled around I had a choice of only considering my teen and 20's music the greatest ever, and quit just like my Dad did, but noticing that because he quit missing the ever changing beats, little by little anything new was like a foreign language to him.

 

I didn't want this to happen to me.

 

I didn't want to consider a certain era as being the greatest, so I continued to eat up everything available that the 90's offered, and in doing so discovered tons of stuff both mainstream and underground that I thoroughly enjoyed, while also seeing its direct lineage to the past.

 

The 90's are probably some of my biggest memories of going to tons and tons of live shows, and mostly club shows where getting to meet the artists was super easy.

 

2000 arrived and in the spirit of staying in tune, just like the 90's I continued to keep my ear to the ground, and from 2000-2010 there was plenty to enjoy, and I continued to go to club shows and stay informed.

 

This doesn't mean that I like everything from every genre, but knew that If I looked for it there'd still be stuff out there that would tickle my ear.

 

Now in this decade because I didn't allow any past decades to pass me by, new sounds don't sound foreign to me, or so starkly different.

 

Sure they do if I put them along side of the 70's and 80's, but because I stayed in tune throughout the 90's and beyond, I'm ready for what's next.

 

If people only like the music of their youth, this is completely understandable, and so often each generation can be found saying the same things about how there's nothing better than the music of their era.

 

When I hear people say this I can instantly detect that somewhere along the way life got in the way, and they quit paying attention to the changes, so much that by the time they heard new music it didn't even resonate with them, and because they had gotten so far behind, it started feeling like way too much of a mountain to climb to catchup, that it was just easier for them to just conclude

 

"There's no more good music being made, and the best music made is when I was a teen or in my 20's, so why bother listening to anything else, or anything new".

 

If this sounds like you, there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm challenging you perhaps to introspectively understand how you arrived at this perspective.

 

I'm 52, and if I were like most people my age I probably would be saying the same things about the best music coming from the 70's and 80's, but I deeply feel that every decade has offered a plethora of great stuff, and still does.

 

I can certainly see where it's now not worth your time to play catch up if you've let a couple of decades pass you by, and how it's much easier for yourselves if you simply write off new music as garbage, and of course music is a matter of taste, but truly, interesting stuff is still out there if you look for it, but quite possibly since you've missed a couple of decades of sounds it won't resonate with you, and you're not prepared to see its quality enough to enjoy it.

 

That's not the music's fault, that's because you didn't stay in touch with it. You may not understand it and it doesn't speak to you, but that's because you're probably no longer sharing it with friends or allowing memories to be made with it.

 

The music that you do love spawns great memories, and if you don't have any great memories to attach to modern music, it's easy for it not to be of any value to you, but truly there's still interesting stuff being made all the time.

My Dad was born in 1919 and graduated from high school in 1937. The music that he loved was understandably from the 30's and the 40's.

 

By the time rock n' roll came about he was already married and raising a family, and there was quite a stark difference in the sound, and with that he then basically quit staying in tune with anything new, and pretty much concluded that nothing was good past the 40's.

 

In my development years I was exposed to his music, as well as music of the late 60's and early 70's with a fair bit of exposure also to music of the 50's.

 

I was in my early teens by the late 70's and was really starting to follow music even more closely, and is when I started buying my first records.

 

By the time I was in high school I had deep roots with music from the 30's to the 70's, but concentrated heavy on the music of the day, sharing the fun with friends, and making lasting memories.

 

At this time I also had a big interest in filling in a ton of gaps of late 60's British Invasion and Woodstock era music.

 

I graduated in 1982 and like most people my age was heavy into the music of the day.

 

During my college aged years in the 80's I continued to keep track and enjoyed the many offerings of the many genres from that era with a huge exposure to MTV.

 

By the time the 90's rolled around I had a choice of only considering my teen and 20's music the greatest ever, and quit just like my Dad did, but noticing that because he quit missing the ever changing beats, little by little anything new was like a foreign language to him.

 

I didn't want this to happen to me.

 

I didn't want to consider a certain era as being the greatest, so I continued to eat up everything available that the 90's offered, and in doing so discovered tons of stuff both mainstream and underground that I thoroughly enjoyed, while also seeing its direct lineage to the past.

 

The 90's are probably some of my biggest memories of going to tons and tons of live shows, and mostly club shows where getting to meet the artists was super easy.

 

2000 arrived and in the spirit of staying in tune, just like the 90's I continued to keep my ear to the ground, and from 2000-2010 there was plenty to enjoy, and I continued to go to club shows and stay informed.

 

This doesn't mean that I like everything from every genre, but knew that If I looked for it there'd still be stuff out there that would tickle my ear.

 

Now in this decade because I didn't allow any past decades to pass me by, new sounds don't sound foreign to me, or so starkly different.

 

Sure they do if I put them along side of the 70's and 80's, but because I stayed in tune throughout the 90's and beyond, I'm ready for what's next.

 

If people only like the music of their youth, this is completely understandable, and so often each generation can be found saying the same things about how there's nothing better than the music of their era.

 

When I hear people say this I can instantly detect that somewhere along the way life got in the way, and they quit paying attention to the changes, so much that by the time they heard new music it didn't even resonate with them, and because they had gotten so far behind, it started feeling like way too much of a mountain to climb to catchup, that it was just easier for them to just conclude

 

"There's no more good music being made, and the best music made is when I was a teen or in my 20's, so why bother listening to anything else, or anything new".

 

If this sounds like you, there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm challenging you perhaps to introspectively understand how you arrived at this perspective.

 

I'm 52, and if I were like most people my age I probably would be saying the same things about the best music coming from the 70's and 80's, but I deeply feel that every decade has offered a plethora of great stuff, and still does.

 

I can certainly see where it's now not worth your time to play catch up if you've let a couple of decades pass you by, and how it's much easier for yourselves if you simply write off new music as garbage, and of course music is a matter of taste, but truly, interesting stuff is still out there if you look for it, but quite possibly since you've missed a couple of decades of sounds it won't resonate with you, and you're not prepared to see its quality enough to enjoy it.

 

That's not the music's fault, that's because you didn't stay in touch with it. You may not understand it and it doesn't speak to you, but that's because you're probably no longer sharing it with friends or allowing memories to be made with it.

 

The music that you do love spawns great memories, and if you don't have any great memories to attach to modern music, it's easy for it not to be of any value to you, but truly there's still interesting stuff being made all the time.

 

All I can say, if it weren't for autotune or whatever it is that is used to make a voice sound in tune, a lot of these folks might not be in the industry.

All I can say, if it weren't for autotune or whatever it is that is used to make a voice sound in tune, a lot of these folks might not be in the industry.

 

I agree that autotune is annoying and is overused by some of the poppish genres that tend to use it, but there's so many more artists out there that have true integrity regarding their craft.

 

Each generation of pop music have had the pre-fab-made-in-the-studio-type acts that are meant solely to sell records, and often times to teeny boppers with very little discriminating taste.

 

It has its place, but as far back as I can remember there have been either boy acts or girl singers that have mostly a teen audience where their songs were fed to them by professional writers and tweaked and polished in the studio. Not exactly great example of true artistry, but more or less packaged to be sold to the masses.

 

If you watched the Brady Bunch years ago you might recall the episode where Greg thought that he was going to be a singing pop star, and when he got into the studio they changed the sound of his voice so much that he couldn't recognize it, and told him to put on cool threads just for the look and to change his name to something like Johnny Miracle.. He backed out because he didn't appreciate being a fake.

 

Aside from all of the factory made songs that pop radio will try to push and sell, there's tons of true artists out there, just as there have always been, putting out some decent stuff either innovative, or often times borrowing from retro sounds, and sometimes both together.

 

It's hard to know just what exactly will appeal to you specifically, so there'd be no end to the various artists that I might suggest to check out, and if there's a big gap of years since you've listened, then even what I might suggest may not even resonate with you.

 

Just for kicks if you named your top 10 favorite bands of all time, I might be able to suggest some modern day artists that have shown influences in their music from some of your favorites, so that's a possible place to start if you're interested in checking some newer stuff out.

 

I've noticed that a lot of fans of classic rock who didn't keep up with rock, but wanted to feel like they were still keeping up with something turned to country music because it seemed easier to follow because the sound doesn't deviate much from what they're used to hearing within the genre.

 

Or some people quit listening because they really didn't have the time when their children were younger, and they had other priorities, and it wasn't until their teen kids started listening to stuff that they as parents sorta tried to hop on board again via their kids to know what was happening.

 

That's all fine and there's no steadfast rule that anyone needs to keep up with what's happening, but often times they'll grab on to catch phrases to denounce modern music to reinforce their lack of effort to stay informed because it's much easier to stay in that line of thinking than to make the effort to take the time to seek out and listen to what's out there.

 

I regularly still find new stuff all the time that I dig, and I can assure you that none of it has that annoying autotune sound attached to it, at least not that I can detect.

My bad, it wasn't Johnny Miracle. The name was Johnny Bravo that they wanted Greg Brady to take as his stage name...

 

I agree that autotune is annoying and is overused by some of the poppish genres that tend to use it, but there's so many more artists out there that have true integrity regarding their craft.

 

Each generation of pop music have had the pre-fab-made-in-the-studio-type acts that are meant solely to sell records, and often times to teeny boppers with very little discriminating taste.

 

It has its place, but as far back as I can remember there have been either boy acts or girl singers that have mostly a teen audience where their songs were fed to them by professional writers and tweaked and polished in the studio. Not exactly great example of true artistry, but more or less packaged to be sold to the masses.

 

If you watched the Brady Bunch years ago you might recall the episode where Greg thought that he was going to be a singing pop star, and when he got into the studio they changed the sound of his voice so much that he couldn't recognize it, and told him to put on cool threads just for the look and to change his name to something like Johnny Miracle.. He backed out because he didn't appreciate being a fake.

 

Aside from all of the factory made songs that pop radio will try to push and sell, there's tons of true artists out there, just as there have always been, putting out some decent stuff either innovative, or often times borrowing from retro sounds, and sometimes both together.

 

It's hard to know just what exactly will appeal to you specifically, so there'd be no end to the various artists that I might suggest to check out, and if there's a big gap of years since you've listened, then even what I might suggest may not even resonate with you.

 

Just for kicks if you named your top 10 favorite bands of all time, I might be able to suggest some modern day artists that have shown influences in their music from some of your favorites, so that's a possible place to start if you're interested in checking some newer stuff out.

 

I've noticed that a lot of fans of classic rock who didn't keep up with rock, but wanted to feel like they were still keeping up with something turned to country music because it seemed easier to follow because the sound doesn't deviate much from what they're used to hearing within the genre.

 

Or some people quit listening because they really didn't have the time when their children were younger, and they had other priorities, and it wasn't until their teen kids started listening to stuff that they as parents sorta tried to hop on board again via their kids to know what was happening.

 

That's all fine and there's no steadfast rule that anyone needs to keep up with what's happening, but often times they'll grab on to catch phrases to denounce modern music to reinforce their lack of effort to stay informed because it's much easier to stay in that line of thinking than to make the effort to take the time to seek out and listen to what's out there.

 

I regularly still find new stuff all the time that I dig, and I can assure you that none of it has that annoying autotune sound attached to it, at least not that I can detect.

 

B-Ball-Fan, you have obviously thought this out and I appreciate your informed input. However, and I am older than you, I do listen to music from today, and I agree some of it is good, but in my opinion it's not much. I do have an eclectic palate.

B-Ball-Fan, you have obviously thought this out and I appreciate your informed input. However, and I am older than you, I do listen to music from today, and I agree some of it is good, but in my opinion it's not much. I do have an eclectic palate.

 

That's cool. I suppose that I was getting the impression that you might've started to drop off in the late 70's from the music scene.

 

When I hear people say, as they often do, that the best music was from such and such time, and there's nothing new that's good anymore, it tends to make me want to analyze how they arrived at this.

 

Since hearing my Dad say these similar things long ago I've spent my life trying to avoid developing the same notion, while watching with a particular interest, generation after generation continue to echo this same attitude.

 

In my obsessive/compulsive kinda way I tend to study it like it's an exact social/pshycological science or something. :lol2:

 

I've even experimented with exposing others to music subliminally where unbeknownst to them by the time they start recognizing that they dig a certain tune they're unaware that I've already played it in their presence numerous times at a low level.

 

Often times first listens to stuff don't register too significantly with people making them sometimes too quickly discard brilliance because their head wasn't yet ready for it, and then after a bit of repetition it begins to grow on them.

 

The mood that someone's in at the time they hear stuff can also have a big effect on their impression.

 

Of course it's not worth the effort for many, but I've often forced myself to repetitively listen to extremely challenging complex stuff knowing that there's a great reward once my head can wrap itself around what I am hearing.

 

Some of my most favorite jams are things that either disturbed or perplexed me upon first listen because it was just all way to new for my brain to comprehend.

 

In a mainstream way I'll use the band "Yes" as an example because of their progressive complexities.

 

When my older sister first was playing them around the house when I was about 12 I just thought that it was annoying and boring, but little by little it sunk in, and before I knew it I absolutely loved Yes. They were an early lesson for me that first listens aren't always enough to draw conclusions.

 

I recall springing on my friends 90125 when it first came out before the radio played "Owner of a Lonely Heart" to death and they pleaded for me to turn it off. Months later when the album was all the rage, these same friends were standing in line with me for concert tickets. If was all foreign to them at first, and after repetitive radio play they ended up loving it.

 

I've had people come to me with music that I had turned them onto months earlier, but they had forgotten because the didn't initially like it, and through some repetition or fun experience with friends they connected with it, and couldn't wait to turn me on to it.

 

With that said there's still tons of stuff that I will discard on first listen because I just know that I will never likely ever warm up to it. Emo/punk would be a good example of this where I can't say that I've ever appreciated one song or band that I've ever heard within the genre.

 

Though some are not wired to appreciate some new innovative stuff, often times they still might be able to dig stuff that harkens thoughts of similarities to stuff that they liked in the past.

 

Obviously you never requested that I be your musical counselor, as I'm sure you're well aware of your own taste and where to look for stuff, but like I had mentioned in my last post, for kicks I'd really dig the challenge of recommending stuff if you were to give me a list of your top 10 favorites just to see what bands pop into my head that I think are worthy of a listen because they either resemble your favs or have obviously been influenced by them. It'll give me a project to obsess over by brainstorming to see if I could hit you with something that might float your boat. If not, no big deal. It's just the obsessive/compulsive in me that would dig the challenge.

 

Same goes for SF or anyone else who wouldn't mind being turned onto something that they might dig, but are just not aware that it's out there.

 

At the risk of sounding like I think that I'm the authority on all things popular music, I must freely admit that there's tons and tons of stuff that I have never heard, or tons of missing links within my own knowledge of it. I don't know everything, but I can certainly attest to being a complete music junkie with obsessive/compulsive tendencies.

 

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I agree that autotune is annoying and is overused by some of the poppish genres that tend to use it, but there's so many more artists out there that have true integrity regarding their craft.

 

Each generation of pop music have had the pre-fab-made-in-the-studio-type acts that are meant solely to sell records, and often times to teeny boppers with very little discriminating taste.

 

It has its place, but as far back as I can remember there have been either boy acts or girl singers that have mostly a teen audience where their songs were fed to them by professional writers and tweaked and polished in the studio. Not exactly great example of true artistry, but more or less packaged to be sold to the masses.

 

If you watched the Brady Bunch years ago you might recall the episode where Greg thought that he was going to be a singing pop star, and when he got into the studio they changed the sound of his voice so much that he couldn't recognize it, and told him to put on cool threads just for the look and to change his name to something like Johnny Miracle.. He backed out because he didn't appreciate being a fake.

 

Aside from all of the factory made songs that pop radio will try to push and sell, there's tons of true artists out there, just as there have always been, putting out some decent stuff either innovative, or often times borrowing from retro sounds, and sometimes both together.

 

It's hard to know just what exactly will appeal to you specifically, so there'd be no end to the various artists that I might suggest to check out, and if there's a big gap of years since you've listened, then even what I might suggest may not even resonate with you.

 

Just for kicks if you named your top 10 favorite bands of all time, I might be able to suggest some modern day artists that have shown influences in their music from some of your favorites, so that's a possible place to start if you're interested in checking some newer stuff out.

 

I've noticed that a lot of fans of classic rock who didn't keep up with rock, but wanted to feel like they were still keeping up with something turned to country music because it seemed easier to follow because the sound doesn't deviate much from what they're used to hearing within the genre.

 

Or some people quit listening because they really didn't have the time when their children were younger, and they had other priorities, and it wasn't until their teen kids started listening to stuff that they as parents sorta tried to hop on board again via their kids to know what was happening.

 

That's all fine and there's no steadfast rule that anyone needs to keep up with what's happening, but often times they'll grab on to catch phrases to denounce modern music to reinforce their lack of effort to stay informed because it's much easier to stay in that line of thinking than to make the effort to take the time to seek out and listen to what's out there.

 

I regularly still find new stuff all the time that I dig, and I can assure you that none of it has that annoying autotune sound attached to it, at least not that I can detect.

 

My friend, I admit that I am hopelessly stuck in the 70's. :)

My friend, I admit that I am hopelessly stuck in the 70's. :)

 

My services for cool new (or newer) band recommendations are free... just sayin'

Drake has at least 7 songs that are worse than this one.

 

At least...

 

Phhhhtttt.......

 

Drake is pretty damn good.

 

Drake isn't rock and roll so he doesn't qualify for this discussion anyways.

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