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Wayne County 85 Dunbar 84

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Darius Williams finishes with 40 for Dunbar Taveion Hollingsworth adds 21, 19 of those in the second half.

 

Peyton Woods finishes with 26 points for Wayne and Corey Stearns adds 24 and Trey Blevins 21.

 

Stat of the night. Wayne shoots 41 Free Throws, Dunbar shoots 17. Wayne shot 18 in the 4th quarter. Dunbar led by as many as 20 in the 3rd quarter before BLOWING the lead, if you'd like to call it that.

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Dunbar is dangerous!

I would say they cheated, but im afraid I might get called for a technical foul

wow...a 20 point comeback? impressive even if it came with help.

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I would say they cheated, but im afraid I might get called for a technical foul

 

Yea that happened too.

I will say that Wayne Co boys never quit...and that is very admirable and they also were excellent from the free throw line. I certainly dont mean to disrespect their team.

I never knew the rule book state both teams have to shoot the same amount of free throws and get called for the same amount of fouls

No, it states that there actually must be contact for a foul to be committed, not on plays where the official thinks there is going to be contact and then there isn't. That a player needs to actually display unsporting conduct to receive a technical, not when a player says "They're cheating" in a soft undirected voice in the lane after one and a half quarters of the other team going to the line to shoot a free throw or two after every single possession. That a player needs to actually be guarded for 5 seconds continuously without break to get charged with a turnover.

 

I always try to give the officials the benefit of a doubt and feel that they never intentionally call an unbalanced game. I just can't believe that this would actually occur on purpose. In this game though, Dunbar was up 23 easy at the half. Wayne had absolutely no answer for Darius Williams. He was scoring at will. They could not handle Dunbar's press and had difficulty breaking the half court zone. The only way Wayne could get back into the game was the constant calls by the officials and the lackluster job of making identical calls for Dunbar - including the last play of the game where Tayvion Hollingsworth was hacked on the last second layup for a no call when just 8 seconds before the identical call was given to the Wayne county boy to take the lead on free throws. There is no way to describe this unless a person was actually at the game. Wayne County went to the line on literally EVERY play for the last quarter and a half of the game. It's hard to defend the basketball when the other team is only shooting free throws. It's hard to push the ball when the play is stopped on EVERY possession. I'm sure I come off like a sore loser, but ANYONE unbiased at the game would call to question the motives on display with the referees in this game. Here's a comment made by the official to one of the players "That may not get called in the 11th, but we call it here in the 12th...." and then on the next play the ref actually doesn't make that call on the identical play for Dunbar. Is there a different set of regional rules used by the officials in the 12th region?

No, it states that there actually must be contact for a foul to be committed, not on plays where the official thinks there is going to be contact and then there isn't. That a player needs to actually display unsporting conduct to receive a technical, not when a player says "They're cheating" in a soft undirected voice in the lane after one and a half quarters of the other team going to the line to shoot a free throw or two after every single possession. That a player needs to actually be guarded for 5 seconds continuously without break to get charged with a turnover.

 

I always try to give the officials the benefit of a doubt and feel that they never intentionally call an unbalanced game. I just can't believe that this would actually occur on purpose. In this game though, Dunbar was up 23 easy at the half. Wayne had absolutely no answer for Darius Williams. He was scoring at will. They could not handle Dunbar's press and had difficulty breaking the half court zone. The only way Wayne could get back into the game was the constant calls by the officials and the lackluster job of making identical calls for Dunbar - including the last play of the game where Tayvion Hollingsworth was hacked on the last second layup for a no call when just 8 seconds before the identical call was given to the Wayne county boy to take the lead on free throws. There is no way to describe this unless a person was actually at the game. Wayne County went to the line on literally EVERY play for the last quarter and a half of the game. It's hard to defend the basketball when the other team is only shooting free throws. It's hard to push the ball when the play is stopped on EVERY possession. I'm sure I come off like a sore loser, but ANYONE unbiased at the game would call to question the motives on display with the referees in this game. Here's a comment made by the official to one of the players "That may not get called in the 11th, but we call it here in the 12th...." and then on the next play the ref actually doesn't make that call on the identical play for Dunbar. Is there a different set of regional rules used by the officials in the 12th region?

 

I agree with everything you said. They did Clay County the same way last year, and when you say something about it, the Wayne County folks throw a fit. When we walked into thier gym last year and a couple of older gentleman came up and ask if we where from Clay and what kind of team we had. we made small talk and Ill swear this on anything the man said " Well i sure hope you guys are 30 points better than them because thats what it takes to win in this gym. And then he pointed out an older Referee and said hes gonna be the one that sticks it to you.

Wayne Co does not give up. I love the way they play.

They did the same thing to Owensboro at the KOB, and almost pulled off a big comeback against Lincoln Co as well.

Sounds like Dunbar needs to learn how to play D without fouling.... I know Wayne had 2 players foul out I don't think Dunbar had that many....

Sounds like Dunbar needs to learn how to play D without fouling.... I know Wayne had 2 players foul out I don't think Dunbar had that many....

 

I agree. I wasn't there but I saw Wayne at KOB. They play 5 out on offense. More contact fouls get called on the perimeter than in the paint. Maybe that's the difference in the free throws taken.

I grow tired of reading the ranting & raving about "getting screwed on the road". I have news for you - when you go on the road out of the region (or even in region) you are NOT going to get the benefit of the doubt. The list of times that WC has gone on the road (out of region) and "gotten screwed" is long but I typically don't get all that bent out of shape over it (nor does our coach). You know that it is going to be that way because the officials are graded by the home team coaches, not the visiting coaches. So you "up your game" and do whatever is necessary to overcome such home court advantages.

 

SIDE NOTE: Coach Woods used to have it in all of his contracts that the officials for games with out-of-region teams would use the officials from the visiting team. Why? Because that tended to level the playing field a great deal. But because the officials didn't like the extra travel and some of the teams didn't like having to pay for the additional cost Coach Woods wasn't able to continue it.

 

Plus from observing last night's game I suppose that in the 11th Region they allow placement of two hands on the opponent (w/o calling a foul) because Dunbar did that a lot and it was called (as the rulebook dictates). So the 12th Region officials called it when Dunbar put the second hand on the offensive player.

 

Dunbar continued to foul both halves and paid it no heed because their bench is deep (& talented) and they were comfortably ahead much of the time. Then Wayne County began playing stiffer defense and Dunbar started committing turnovers and taking bad shots and suddenly all of the fouls mattered. Also in the first half and early part of the third quarter Dunbar was shooting easy & comfortable, feeling no pressure and making an extremely high percentage of their shots. Then the game got tight and the shots quit falling as frequently.

 

I was greatly impressed by the Dunbar team. Williams is indeed a player and had he not had to make an emergency exit (to visit the rest room) for a brief period or had that last second shot by Dunbar fallen, the result could have been different. Wayne County was extremely fortunate to play so poorly early and manage to pull out a win. Hopefully they will learn a lesson from it.

 

POSTNOTE: I find it hilarious that anyone would mention Clay County regarding this topic (the 'home team' having an edge with the officials). For as long as I have followed the game (going on six decades) it has been legendary that you do not go to Clay County and win. When Bobby Keith was coach and in his prime, the very best teams from Lexington, Louisville & elsewhere would foolishly make the trip to Manchester and come away having sustained a loss and promising themselves they would never return.

I get so tired at seeing all the crying going on about wayne co getting favorable treatment from officials. whether its in our region or other regions we have to hear every win we get that referees won the game for us. Why not give these young men and their coach a little credit, they do know how to play the game of basketball and Coach Woods certainly knows how to coach, but for some when we win its referees gave it to them. There was calls both ways last night that both sides were upset, but it certainly wasnt leaning Wayne Co. Our guys are good free throw shooters, and they will try to draw fouls, which i thought was part of the game. When we finally started making shots then they wanted to guard us closer outside and then we took the ball to the basket and drew fouls. Dunbar pressed us the whole game and we had a little trouble early, and when we really turned up the pressure on them, they started making a lot of errors, so we were able to make a tremendous comeback against a really good team. So give the guys a little credit insted of referees gave Wayne the win.

No, it states that there actually must be contact for a foul to be committed, not on plays where the official thinks there is going to be contact and then there isn't. That a player needs to actually display unsporting conduct to receive a technical, not when a player says "They're cheating" in a soft undirected voice in the lane after one and a half quarters of the other team going to the line to shoot a free throw or two after every single possession. That a player needs to actually be guarded for 5 seconds continuously without break to get charged with a turnover.

 

I always try to give the officials the benefit of a doubt and feel that they never intentionally call an unbalanced game. I just can't believe that this would actually occur on purpose. In this game though, Dunbar was up 23 easy at the half. Wayne had absolutely no answer for Darius Williams. He was scoring at will. They could not handle Dunbar's press and had difficulty breaking the half court zone. The only way Wayne could get back into the game was the constant calls by the officials and the lackluster job of making identical calls for Dunbar - including the last play of the game where Tayvion Hollingsworth was hacked on the last second layup for a no call when just 8 seconds before the identical call was given to the Wayne county boy to take the lead on free throws. There is no way to describe this unless a person was actually at the game. Wayne County went to the line on literally EVERY play for the last quarter and a half of the game. It's hard to defend the basketball when the other team is only shooting free throws. It's hard to push the ball when the play is stopped on EVERY possession. I'm sure I come off like a sore loser, but ANYONE unbiased at the game would call to question the motives on display with the referees in this game. Here's a comment made by the official to one of the players "That may not get called in the 11th, but we call it here in the 12th...." and then on the next play the ref actually doesn't make that call on the identical play for Dunbar. Is there a different set of regional rules used by the officials in the 12th region?

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