One way they do it is by cheating. Many high school athletes play for schools out of their districted area on the sly. I can think of many sports teams who would, overall, be better or worse if the players played at the schools near where they live. I guess some parents/players just don't like to follow the rules.

 

This has been debated over and over and I'm sorry if I have to completely disagree. If something was being done illegally then I'm positive there would be parents speaking up. Parents have the right to send their daughters (in this instance) where ever they would like, public or private. If they are going to a school out of their district then they have to pay for that. If they are going to a private school like NDA, NCC, HC and so on, they have to pay for that.

 

Speaking in regards to schools like NDA, they will always field a strong team each and every year. If my kid was in district to go to Boone County as a youngster but I knew volleyball was in her blood, I'm pretty sure she would going to NDA in the end. I know several kids that drive a county over to attend the school of their choice. It's not my call to tell that parent they are doing something wrong if everything they are doing is within the rules. EVEN if their daughter would make my daughters team that much better.

 

I'll step down off my soapbox now..

This has been debated over and over and I'm sorry if I have to completely disagree. If something was being done illegally then I'm positive there would be parents speaking up. Parents have the right to send their daughters (in this instance) where ever they would like, public or private. If they are going to a school out of their district then they have to pay for that. If they are going to a private school like NDA, NCC, HC and so on, they have to pay for that.

 

Speaking in regards to schools like NDA, they will always field a strong team each and every year. If my kid was in district to go to Boone County as a youngster but I knew volleyball was in her blood, I'm pretty sure she would going to NDA in the end. I know several kids that drive a county over to attend the school of their choice. It's not my call to tell that parent they are doing something wrong if everything they are doing is within the rules. EVEN if their daughter would make my daughters team that much better.

 

I'll step down off my soapbox now..

 

I agree! On our team, we have a couple kids that technically live part of the week out of district. Their parents are divorced and one parent lives in district and one doesn't. It was the family's choice on what school they would attend. So to assume that people are "cheating" to be on a certain team is risky at best. You may not know all the circumstances in their family...

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This has been debated over and over and I'm sorry if I have to completely disagree. If something was being done illegally then I'm positive there would be parents speaking up. Parents have the right to send their daughters (in this instance) where ever they would like, public or private. If they are going to a school out of their district then they have to pay for that. If they are going to a private school like NDA, NCC, HC and so on, they have to pay for that.

 

Speaking in regards to schools like NDA, they will always field a strong team each and every year. If my kid was in district to go to Boone County as a youngster but I knew volleyball was in her blood, I'm pretty sure she would going to NDA in the end. I know several kids that drive a county over to attend the school of their choice. It's not my call to tell that parent they are doing something wrong if everything they are doing is within the rules. EVEN if their daughter would make my daughters team that much better.

 

I'll step down off my soapbox now..

 

 

I agree that parents have the right to choose where to send their children to school if they are going to pay for it. And it's not cheating. However I respectfully disagree with your opinion of which school I would send my volley-talented daughter to. First of all, high school volleyball is just that, high school volleyball. It's such a small part of her overall education and experience that I would hardly choose a school based on volleyball. After all the season is over in Oct, only 3 months into the school year. Club is what matters. Second- IF I was going to choose a school FOR volleyball, Maureen Kaiser at St. Henry is by far and large the best overall consistent coach in NKY. She always gets the most out of her players and team. You take the talent at NDA, and put that at any other school, and that program is just as good. You take the talent at St. Henry (and I'm not knocking their players because they are good), and put that anywhere else, and they are not as good. So I'd go with St. Henry. You have to look at the whole picture. Just my opinion.

Maureen Kaiser at St. Henry is by far and large the best overall consistent coach in NKY. She always gets the most out of her players and team.

 

I agree! She is a great coach!

I know 2 athletes who go to different PUBLIC schools whose parents are living together with the athlete, and they aren't "paying" for anything, just deceiving. In one instance, it's simply because the student didn't want to be separated from best friends. Simple as that. As for why people aren't complaining, I can only speak for myself. I simply don't care about what others do along these lines in high school athletics, even if it is dishonest. I can only assume that many others do not report because they feel similarly. Private schools have the luxury of recruiting in high school; public schools have more rules about attending schools in which you are districted. It doesn't stop the fact that it is still done, at times, dishonestly.

I know 2 athletes who go to different PUBLIC schools whose parents are living together with the athlete, and they aren't "paying" for anything, just deceiving. In one instance, it's simply because the student didn't want to be separated from best friends. Simple as that. As for why people aren't complaining, I can only speak for myself. I simply don't care about what others do along these lines in high school athletics, even if it is dishonest. I can only assume that many others do not report because they feel similarly. Private schools have the luxury of recruiting in high school; public schools have more rules about attending schools in which you are districted. It doesn't stop the fact that it is still done, at times, dishonestly.

 

Report it to the KHSAA.

 

And another thing, you are wrong, the KHSAA rules are the same for all schools, public and private. Some public school choose to place additional restrictions on their own school, that is 100% on them.

Then I sit corrected.

 

The point, no matter what the rules, is, so many parents placate their children and "buy" opportunities, or just flat out deceive to try to give them some perceived advantage over others... it happens.

 

I was speaking to a volleyball father the other day and he indicated that, after doing the math, he will most likely have spent more than the cost of his daughter's college education through all the years' monies he has paid toward volleyball, IF she gets an athletic scholarship to the school in which she is most interested. What some parents are willing to pay or do to get their kids an advantage, although noble and understandable, doesn't surprise me anymore, but it used to.

 

It is an expensive type of networking, but, there are still some of us out here who believe that the athletes do not "need" the great high school teams, nor the best club teams, to be noticed, recruited and signed to great colleges. It takes hard work, skill, effort, staying on top of everything, making connections and perseverance to get that scholarship. Networking doesn't have to be expensive by way of the most expensive club teams or by hiring recruiting firms to do the bidding for the athlete. It's like most things in life.... we can always find someone who is willing to be paid for doing the things we don't have time to, or don't want to do, ourselves.

 

What I'm concluding is, big clubs or schools can open your exposure, but if you do the footwork yourself, you can accomplish the same thing, if your skills are good enough.

Then I sit corrected.

 

The point, no matter what the rules, is, so many parents placate their children and "buy" opportunities, or just flat out deceive to try to give them some perceived advantage over others... it happens.

 

I was speaking to a volleyball father the other day and he indicated that, after doing the math, he will most likely have spent more than the cost of his daughter's college education through all the years' monies he has paid toward volleyball, IF she gets an athletic scholarship to the school in which she is most interested. What some parents are willing to pay or do to get their kids an advantage, although noble and understandable, doesn't surprise me anymore, but it used to.

 

It is an expensive type of networking, but, there are still some of us out here who believe that the athletes do not "need" the great high school teams, nor the best club teams, to be noticed, recruited and signed to great colleges. It takes hard work, skill, effort, staying on top of everything, making connections and perseverance to get that scholarship. Networking doesn't have to be expensive by way of the most expensive club teams or by hiring recruiting firms to do the bidding for the athlete. It's like most things in life.... we can always find someone who is willing to be paid for doing the things we don't have time to, or don't want to do, ourselves.

 

What I'm concluding is, big clubs or schools can open your exposure, but if you do the footwork yourself, you can accomplish the same thing, if your skills are good enough.

 

Club volleyball is expensive. It also takes a lot of time to get the girls to practice and tournaments. What you may not realize is that the experience is worth it's weight in gold. My daughter has been playing competitive club for a few years now and her teammates are some of her best friends. The parents are very good friends of mine as well. We have traveled to some exciting cities and done some sightseeing along with her volleyball. It's not all about the games on the court, it's the overall experience. College isn't just about playing the sport either, it's about the opportunities it provides the student-athlete, the friends she's meets and the experience of doing something very few get the chance to do, while paying for her education at the same time. Is it expensive? Absolutely. Would I do it all over again for her of that's what she wanted to do? Absolutely.

I use to think the grade school program was solely the reason the Catholic schools always field hugely talented programs year after year, but that wouldn't explain the success of programs like Ryle, Cooper & SK. The majority of the players on public high school teams play club ball year round with most (not all) affiliated with NKYVC or NKJV. If young kids are showing an interest in playing volleyball, parents need to invest in club at an early age. Gone are the days when kids show up in middle school making team never having played the game before. Good coaches are also a big factor in program development. SK consistently does well year after year because Coach Atwood knows the game & knows how to pull the best from her players. Just like AAU for basketball, playing club volleyball gives players an edge & unlike basketball, volleyball is a hard sport to play alone in the driveway!! Down the road, club volleyball is also a great way to attract college scouts that may not happen for school volleyball especially small schools & non-powerhouse teams!!

 

One thing I think gets over looked is that the top varsity coaches get to be where they are because they surround themselves with other good coaches. They know the importance of a good freshman & JV coach. I've followed SK for a few years now because of Coach Atwood and I've noticed she seems to have strong coaches helping her prepare her girls for that next level, Varsity.

 

 

Then I sit corrected.

 

The point, no matter what the rules, is, so many parents placate their children and "buy" opportunities, or just flat out deceive to try to give them some perceived advantage over others... it happens.

 

I was speaking to a volleyball father the other day and he indicated that, after doing the math, he will most likely have spent more than the cost of his daughter's college education through all the years' monies he has paid toward volleyball, IF she gets an athletic scholarship to the school in which she is most interested. What some parents are willing to pay or do to get their kids an advantage, although noble and understandable, doesn't surprise me anymore, but it used to.

 

It is an expensive type of networking, but, there are still some of us out here who believe that the athletes do not "need" the great high school teams, nor the best club teams, to be noticed, recruited and signed to great colleges. It takes hard work, skill, effort, staying on top of everything, making connections and perseverance to get that scholarship. Networking doesn't have to be expensive by way of the most expensive club teams or by hiring recruiting firms to do the bidding for the athlete. It's like most things in life.... we can always find someone who is willing to be paid for doing the things we don't have time to, or don't want to do, ourselves.

 

What I'm concluding is, big clubs or schools can open your exposure, but if you do the footwork yourself, you can accomplish the same thing, if your skills are good enough.

 

I agree with a lot of what you're saying but I think for most the footwork is the hard part and people don't know where to start. Another thing that bigger club teams do their players, they play in top tournaments around the country that they know the college coaches are going to be at. Its an amazing thing to have gone to the national AAU tournament the last several years and to see one top coach after another walking from court to court watching players. You generally don't get that exposure with smaller clubs being that they tend to not travel as much or they choose not to. Nothing wrong with it, just my opinion.

Nothing I stated says anything in disagreement to what you just said. In fact, I not only "understand" but I agree. I just indicated that being on a certain club team or school team is not the ONLY way a player can get noticed (that it wasn't "necessary" not that it wasn't an good thing) and I just passed a story along heard from a current volley player's parent. There are SO many other ways a skilled player can market herself or himself. The right camps, showcases, big tournaments, and proper preparation with a lot of personal drive and action can not only be helpful but GREAT experience for any athlete.