I don't really find the photo as racist, but I'm not sure it was the smartest move for the student body president to be making, in my opinion. There are smart ways to pick your battles when you are in that type of position and I don't think her photo and hashtags were the appropriate way.

 

However, I'm sure someone in her defense would say they were the best way because of the attention it drew.

 

But what did she really accomplish? Hate to say it but just from reading the article, the administration probably thought she was a bit of a trouble maker for them and was glad to have a reason to have her removed from the position.

 

 

100% in agreement on that one.

 

I also think it's perfectly fine that they removed her from the position or forced her to resign.

 

Not saying that what she did was the appropriate thing either, but what would have been a better way, in your opinion, to accomplish your end goals if you were her? I'm asking just because I'm curious, not trying to like call you out or anything, it's just something that I'm not really sure what else she might have been able to do with the same effect (going viral).

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100% in agreement on that one.

 

I also think it's perfectly fine that they removed her from the position or forced her to resign.

 

Not saying that what she did was the appropriate thing either, but what would have been a better way, in your opinion, to accomplish your end goals if you were her? I'm asking just because I'm curious, not trying to like call you out or anything, it's just something that I'm not really sure what else she might have been able to do with the same effect (going viral).

 

Yes it's very simple. If people are being morons you point it out in a mature way and respond in a intelligent way. You think this was her only avenue of response? If your response to negative behavior is also to resort to the gutter you won't make it very far in life. This same advice could be shared with Anthony Cumnia from the other thread going.

Yes it's very simple. If people are being morons you point it out in a mature way and respond in a intelligent way. You think this was her only avenue of response? If your response to negative behavior is also to resort to the gutter you won't make it very far in life. This same advice could be shared with Anthony Cumnia from the other thread going.

 

No, I don't think it was her only avenue of response at all. If her goal was to get it to go viral and have everyone discussing it, then I think she did a good job at that. I'm just not sure well crafted arguments written in an opinion editorial would go viral, that's the whole point I was trying to make.

 

If someone could tell me who Andre Robert is or have a clue about the title of the book he wrote (or anything similar to him or that) and you can do that without looking it up, then I think you have a great point, but even then I'm going to guess that the majority of people have no idea who that is. I know I didn't have a clue who he was until I read the article, and even Googling his name won't really help you.

 

What I'm trying to say is that I think a mature, intelligent response would have been buried and we'd have never heard about it. I'm not saying there wasn't a way that it reaches this many people otherwise, just that I don't know what she might have done that would have. Not saying there was nothing she could do, just that I'm not really sure what it would have been. Just because there's nothing I can think of right off doesn't mean there isn't a way, just that I haven't given it much though and the thought I have given it hasn't led me to come up with anything.

No, I don't think it was her only avenue of response at all. If her goal was to get it to go viral and have everyone discussing it, then I think she did a good job at that. I'm just not sure well crafted arguments written in an opinion editorial would go viral, that's the whole point I was trying to make.

 

If someone could tell me who Andre Robert is or have a clue about the title of the book he wrote (or anything similar to him or that) and you can do that without looking it up, then I think you have a great point, but even then I'm going to guess that the majority of people have no idea who that is. I know I didn't have a clue who he was until I read the article, and even Googling his name won't really help you.

 

What I'm trying to say is that I think a mature, intelligent response would have been buried and we'd have never heard about it. I'm not saying there wasn't a way that it reaches this many people otherwise, just that I don't know what she might have done that would have. Not saying there was nothing she could do, just that I'm not really sure what it would have been. Just because there's nothing I can think of right off doesn't mean there isn't a way, just that I haven't given it much though and the thought I have given it hasn't led me to come up with anything.

 

I don't think the publicity she recieved was good for any cause it was meant for with those actions.

I'm not really sure what point she got across. Seems more like she was to just trying to get a rise out of other people on campus and she did.

 

You are right about making something go viral to draw as much attention as possible to it. But I still ask, what did she really accomplish? I don't really feel like she drew attention to anything, she just got herself removed from a powerful position.

I'm not really sure what point she got across. Seems more like she was to just trying to get a rise out of other people on campus and she did.

 

You are right about making something go viral to draw as much attention as possible to it. But I still ask, what did she really accomplish? I don't really feel like she drew attention to anything, she just got herself removed from a powerful position.

 

 

Exactly that, she wanted as much attention on the school as she could get. She wanted the spotlight on them and for people to read or hear about it. She wanted people to think that it probably wasn't always a very fun, welcoming experience if you are a minority (not just racial, but gender... she was the first female President, homosexual, political viewpoints, socio-economic... scholarship, etc.) in almost every way that you could imagine. She wanted people to sympathize with her. Some did and some didn't I'm sure.

 

I doubt it really means anything that she's removed. She was removed in March, the school year was practically over. Maybe she didn't give a speech at graduation or doesn't plan the school's ten year reunion or something, but I'm guessing if she was already as unhappy with it as she portrays herself to be, it's not like she'd have really wanted to be there anyway.

 

I do think that it would be fair to speculate that there were a lot of people who really helped her/whose help she might have benefitted from, that, in doing what she did, might have taken it as her thumbing her nose at them. If there were people at the school who were interviewed that had supported her by voting for her, then later said things like, "I thought she was different", "I didn't know she was like that", "I wish I hadn't voted for her", etc., then I think that they might have valid reasons for feeling like that and it would sway my opinion more. I look at her as a kid who was probably very welcoming to a lot of kids who were bullied, ostracized, etc., and that's probably why she won the election.

 

I'm not saying she was an angel or that what she did was right, I'm just saying that she probably raised awareness of the issues and, for better or worse, some things change there. Maybe some international families who can afford basically whatever they want (like $53K a year to send their kid to high school), might reconsider sending their kids there. Maybe they look at other schools a little more instead or at least do more investigation of their own into the school to see if it's really what she said it's like before enrolling their kids there if they are worried about sending them.

 

It's not like the school is going to go bankrupt or anything, they seem to be doing just fine in the way of donations, etc., I just think that it might have given them a bit of a PR hit and that if things are really as bad as she acted like, then maybe things change for the better and actions like the ones she alleged from others and the ones she performed herself might not happen as frequently in the future.

 

At the same time, maybe it ends up hurting her cause and the school decides that there's too much volatility for the some kid the next year to get the same scholarship/aid that she did and she winds up hurting her cause that way.

 

I don't know. There's not really a good answer, but I don't think we're discussing it today unless she both publishes that and gets removed. That's what made the headlines that got the clicks, shares, and likes.

 

I'm not saying what she did was right, I'm just saying I'm not didn't personally get worked up over it because I thought it was just high school drama and that the kids who complained loudest probably weren't complaining because they thought it was pejorative and they were hurt, they probably did it because they are mad she's President, they're not or they just don't like her (and maybe they have good reason for it).

 

I'd take a wild guess and say that whoever complained was probably a member of the same group of people who would do things like emailing school administrators pictures of her smoking weed (when the person who took the picture was with her, doing exactly what she was doing too at best or spying on her or stealing them from her computer or something like that at worst), or allegedly sending a harassing email of her partially undressed to all of the freshmen in the school, etc.

 

I'm not saying she's an angel, because she doesn't seem like one and instead she like someone with a rebellious streak, meaning I'd guess she could dish out her fair share too, but I'm not really convinced that she would just go looking for trouble at every turn and still be able to just last there without being expelled, much less get elected President.

 

Kind of stereotypical for me to say, but again, in my experience, there are some (as in a very small few) private school kids who are just a special kind of evil.