February 7, 201412 yr That's what I'm saying. Athletics has nothing to do with why Kentucky would never move to the B1G. It's all about academics. Someone had said something about ACC too. So I wasn't sure if you meant both.
February 7, 201412 yr One word.....Academics. I really do not think academics plays a roll in athletic conference selection. Follow the money, IMO.
February 7, 201412 yr That's what I'm saying. Athletics has nothing to do with why Kentucky would never move to the B1G. It's all about academics. Please elaborate- help me to understand your perspective on this.
February 8, 201412 yr Please elaborate- help me to understand your perspective on this. Missouri's first choice was the B1G. They applied and were turned down for academic reason's. They then applied to SEC and were accepted. Academics is very important, so is money. They just believe they can have both. Look at the academic rankings of the schools. Many in the conference weren't happy about the addition of Nebraska, because they don't think Nebraska's academics are good enough.
February 8, 201412 yr Missouri's first choice was the B1G. They applied and were turned down for academic reason's. They then applied to SEC and were accepted. Academics is very important, so is money. They just believe they can have both. Look at the academic rankings of the schools. Many in the conference weren't happy about the addition of Nebraska, because they don't think Nebraska's academics are good enough. Okay- I understand the point. I think money is a primary factor for these schools and conference choices. I think the dollars get much more consideration over the academics, but I could see academics playing a factor. I will say that the fact that Nebraska was accepted into the Big Ten lends more credence to my belief about dollars and cents being the driver. I don't see Kentucky, in the current economic climate, ever considering a move to another conference.
February 8, 201412 yr Missouri's first choice was the B1G. They applied and were turned down for academic reason's. They then applied to SEC and were accepted. Academics is very important, so is money. They just believe they can have both. Look at the academic rankings of the schools. Many in the conference weren't happy about the addition of Nebraska, because they don't think Nebraska's academics are good enough. All of the schools in the B1G, less Nebraska, are AAU (Association of American Universities) affiliated, a more elite club than the NCAA. These are all major research universities, bringing in more money in research grants from government and corporate sources than football currently does. For instance, I remember reading a year or so ago, that Ohio State will typically make $35-55 million in profit from it's football program, but clears $200-300 million academically. OSU's Athletic budget hovers around $120 million a year. It's academic budget is over $5 billion. Academics is big business, too. A huge business. Nebraska losing their AAU certification after entering the conference is why other members are questioning whether they should remain in the conference.
February 8, 201412 yr All of the schools in the B1G, less Nebraska, are AAU (Association of American Universities) affiliated, a more elite club than the NCAA. These are all major research universities, bringing in more money in research grants from government and corporate sources than football currently does. For instance, I remember reading a year or so ago, that Ohio State will typically make $35-55 million in profit from it's football program, but clears $200-300 million academically. OSU's Athletic budget hovers around $120 million a year. It's academic budget is over $5 billion. Academics is big business, too. A huge business. Nebraska losing their AAU certification after entering the conference is why other members are questioning whether they should remain in the conference. All of this is true- I still do not think this is a major consideration when deciding conference affiliation for athletics. That is why Nebaska was accepted into the Big Ten, IMO. Nebraska's history and following makes them more likely to be selected for a BCS bowl game than Mizzou or Pitt (both of whom are AAU members that geographically make sense for the Big Ten, but were passed over for Nebraska). The football money is always at the forefront when making these athletic decisions, IMO.
February 8, 201412 yr All of this is true- I still do not think this is a major consideration when deciding conference affiliation for athletics. That is why Nebaska was accepted into the Big Ten, IMO. Nebraska's history and following makes them more likely to be selected for a BCS bowl game than Mizzou or Pitt (both of whom are AAU members that geographically make sense for the Big Ten, but were passed over for Nebraska). The football money is always at the forefront when making these athletic decisions, IMO. I'm pretty sure Nebraska was AAU when they joined. No one is saying athletics money doesn't matter, it does. That's the reason Pitt was of no interest. They bring nothing to the table. Penn St owns that market. Maryland was brought in because of high academics and market. Same with Rutgers. Like I said, they believe they can have both.
February 8, 201412 yr I'm pretty sure Nebraska was AAU when they joined. No one is saying athletics money doesn't matter, it does. That's the reason Pitt was of no interest. They bring nothing to the table. Penn St owns that market. Maryland was brought in because of high academics and market. Same with Rutgers. Like I said, they believe they can have both. Then why didn't the Big Ten go after Kansas? Remember how Bill Self pleaded years ago for someone to scoop up Kansas when the realignment fervor was at its peak? They were willing to jump ship. Similar geographic profile to Nebraska, AAU member since 1909, and they generate greater overall sport revenues than Rutgers, Maryland or Mizzou- even more than Nebraska, for that matter. The answer, IMO, is the football revenue. Nebraska is one of the most valuable football programs in the country: The 12 Most Valuable Teams in NCAA Football. Kentucky generates tons of overall revenue, but doesn't generate the football revenue or have the football profile of a Nebraska. According to Sea of Blue, Kentucky generate around $18 million in profit via football. Nebraska generates around $49 million in profit. I don't disagree that if you can get high academics and athletics, you go for it. I just disagree that academics were a high consideration during the realignment and disagree that they would be a high consideration if the Big Ten wanted Kentucky. I think the highest and most major priority is finding a school that generates and has potential to generate the highest football revenues. Then, you look at overall athletic revenues. If the academics fit your conference profile, that's a nice bonus. JMO. Edited February 8, 201412 yr by born2reign
February 8, 201412 yr I'm pretty sure Nebraska was AAU when they joined. No one is saying athletics money doesn't matter, it does. That's the reason Pitt was of no interest. They bring nothing to the table. Penn St owns that market. Maryland was brought in because of high academics and market. Same with Rutgers. Like I said, they believe they can have both. Actually, the Big 10 wanted Syracuse, because they own the NY market over Rutgers, but the Cuse lost their AAU certification. Rutgers was a fall back position.
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