Also, I would think because there is more parity that would mean the state of football is up more this year than in years past.

 

You talk about Scott Co. and SK walking through their schedules, but in years past you would say that was good when Trinity would do the same thing.

 

I'm sorry, but I still feel simply because Trinity isn't the best team in the state is why you even created this thread. Just because Trinity isn't the best doesn't mean that football in the state is down. Actually I think it's better now than in years past because there is more teams in contention to be the best in their class than in years past.

You are talking excitement....I am talking quality. I guess we'll just have to see the amount of college players come out of this year's teams.

You can't use usa today to discredit T, but not use other polls ie rivals to credit them, then use that same other poll to credit another program.

 

If anyone wants to go to those national boards.....it was the "perception" of the majority of posters on there, and their moderators...that Don Bosco and Trinity were the best in the land......

You are talking excitement....I am talking quality. I guess we'll just have to see the amount of college players come out of this year's teams.

So how are you going to keep track of that, and how doesw that mean anything? do you have any idea how many college players came out of Cooper's team last year? no you don't. So how is that going to be your argument this year?

You can't use usa today to discredit T, but not use other polls ie rivals to credit them, then use that same other poll to credit another program.

 

No disrespect or discredit to Trinity at all, my point was that there was a lot of talent in the Florida, Georgia or Texas teams equal to the level of Trinity. When you get to the Tier 1 level of teams, talent usually wins out, as we see at the D-1 FBS level. Attach whatever poll you want to any of those eight or ten teams I mention, but those teams outside of Don Bosco and Trinity had a lot of high level D-1 talent. So I simply believe that it was more than a two horse race...in a eight team playoff I went with Grayson (GA) and Good Counsel (MD), and Nkemdiche Grayson team winning it all.

So how are you going to keep track of that, and how doesw that mean anything? do you have any idea how many college players came out of Cooper's team last year? no you don't. So how is that going to be your argument this year?

Using various websites, it's quite easy to see where certain kids are going to play ball..

Using various websites, it's quite easy to see where certain kids are going to play ball..

 

Ok then answer the question I asked. How many cooper players last year are playing college ball?

 

I will also add if that is your barometer of how good football is then you have a very narrow way of looking at how good football is.

^ I have been around football most of my life....played at a "good" high school, played at WKU, and coached under some great coaches. I have seen good, bad, and average football.

How many Cooper players are playing College football from

Last years team?

 

You can't answer because there is no way of knowing unless you have a way of keeping track of all the players and you don't. Which is why I said your way of measuring if the state of football is good by seeing how many are playing college ball is an impossible measuring stick.

Let's look at the USA Today final poll as a starting point for the states you mention.

 

How about Florida...arguably the best high school team may have been Armwood, Florida. Why? They beat three teams that finished in the USA Today Super 25 final poll. They were an outlaw program, and eventually paid the price, so if we throw Armwood out of the mix then we have the teams that Armwood beat...#3 Armwood (FL) 15-0, beat #5 Bishop Gorman (NV) 15-1, #14 Miami Central (FL) 13-1 an outlaw program and #15 Plant Tampa (FL) 14-1.

 

1. #1 Don Bosco (NJ) 11-0 did beat Bergen Catholic (NJ) 8-3 which finished as the #10 East Region team, no wins were against teams that finished in the USA Today Super 25 final poll.

2. #2 Trinity (KY) 14-0 did beat Cathedral (IN) 12-3 which finished as the #10 Midwest Region team, but no wins against teams that finished in the USA Today Super 25 final poll.

3. Regarding Texas and Georgia, they had perennially power teams like #4 Grayson (GA) 15-0 and #10 Lake Travis (TX) 15-0 that were unbeaten, and let's not forget #6 Good Counsel (MD) 12-0. These three teams were loaded with high level D-1 talent, Grayson had Nkemdiche/DL, the #1 player.

 

A playoff with these 8 teams would have been great, the outlaw #3 Armwood (FL) 15-0, #5 Bishop Gorman (NV) 15-1, #14 Miami Central (FL), #15 Plant Tampa (FL) 14-1, #1 Don Bosco (NJ) 11-0 , #2 Trinity (KY) 14-0 , #4 Grayson (GA) 15-0 and #10 Lake Travis (TX). If you don't like Armwood and Central, I'll add #6 Good Counsel who was loaded with D-1 talent and #21 Valor Christian (CO) 14-0 to the mix. To compete against these teams, a team needs a roster with high level athletes possessing both size and speed in both the junior and senior classes, at this level a team is as good as its talent. The teams I mention are loaded year in out with D-1 talent; look it up on Rivals. Trinity was loaded with a junior class talent that may never be seen again at the school, what about the senior class?

 

2013 Trinity Football Class

1. Two Players ranked in the Top 250 Nationally.

2. Five Players Rivals Position Ranked Nationally.

3. Three Players ranked in the Rivals Top 10 in KY.

4. Five Players earned D-1 FBS Full Athletic Scholarships.

5. Five Players earned all Bluegrass Preps 2012.

6. Four Players earned first team 2012 All-State AP.

 

2012 Trinity Football Class

1. Zero Players ranked in the Top 250 Nationally.

2. Zero Players Rivals Position Ranked Nationally.

3. Zero Players ranked in the Rivals Top 10 in KY.

4. One? Players earned D-1 FBS Full Athletic Scholarships.

5. Zero Players earned all Bluegrass Preps 2011.

6. Zero Players earned first team 2011 All-State AP.

 

In 2011 there were a lot of good teams in Georgia, Florida, Texas, New Jersey, Nevada, Colorado (Valor) and California (De La Salle) that were definitely on Trinity's level. These teams would have brought the arms...Lake Travis is QB U, they had Mayfield/Texas Tech or Gorman had Soloman/Arizona..backs like Armwood Jones RB/ Florida, Grayson RB Gallman/Clemson or Good Counsel Brown/Maryland...they would have brought speed and size at WR to challenge the Trinity secondary like Good Counsel Diggs/Maryland and the OL/DL like the Grayson #1 Rivals player Nkemdiche who starts at Ole Miss DL or the Bishop Gorman kid Stanley who starts Notre Dame OL. These teams would each bring multiple big maulers on the OL/DL, D-1 speed to go with the D-1 size.

 

Trinity was an excellent team, but in an 8 team playoff without Armwood or Central, I would take Grayson and Good Counsel as reaching the final game with Grayson winning it all.

 

listen I'm From Florida & in 2011 that was a down year. Manatee & Armwood were the State's best two teams Manatee lost to Don Bosco & Good Counsel . Armwood struggled against several teams that were 500. Miami Central played Cincy Elder the week after Trinity that year & Central beat Elder 24-21. Trinity Destroyed Elder 58-7. at halftime the score was 38-0. Trinity called the dogs off in the 3rd quater.

 

Normally those states you named would always have better teams then Trinity but not in 2011.

 

My nephew plays for Valor Christian, Colorado. I saw them play several times & Trinity would have Destroyed them.

 

Again, Trinity & Don Bosco were clearly the best to teams by far in 2011.

These conversations make me laugh. Very similar to the "my dad can beat your dad up"