April 15, 201313 yr The altercation began when both men were traveling south on U.S. 31-W By-Pass. Witnesses stated that Brown's and Bradshaw's vehicles were jockeying back and forth, pulling up next to each other and changing lanes south of 10th Avenue, Cohron said. As both vehicles crossed 10th Avenue, Bradshaw entered the parking lot of Enterprise Rent-A-Car at 1125 U.S. 31-W By-Pass, and Brown was seen pulling in shortly after at Michelle's Consignment Boutique at 1135 U.S. 31-W By-Pass. Testimony and evidence show that Bradshaw then pulled in behind Brown in the parking lot of Michelle's Consignment Boutique. Brown stepped out of his vehicle – with his gun concealed – and approached Bradshaw's driver's side wearing "plain clothes and in no way in any performance of any law enforcement duties," Cohron said. "There was a verbal altercation between the two of them," Cohron said. "At some point in time, Brandon Bradshaw during the altercation attempted to exit the vehicle. Mr. Brown closed the door back on Mr. Bradshaw's truck, and then eyewitness testimony confirmed that at that point in time, Brandon Bradshaw pulled a .40 caliber Smith & Wesson gun, brandished that towards Mr. Brown. At that point in time, Mr. Brown pulled a weapon, discharging that weapon three times, striking Mr. Bradshaw ... ." No charges in fatal shooting - Bowling Green Daily News: Local News
April 15, 201313 yr Author Very sad. Has this been a big story in the Bowling Green area? Did the Grand Jury get it right with No True Bill?
April 15, 201313 yr Very sad. Has this been a big story in the Bowling Green area? Did the Grand Jury get it right with No True Bill? Massive story. Several protests, a ton of upset people. Hard to say if the GJ got it right. To me, and a lot of the public, there are several unanswered questions surrounding the shooting. Some actions were taken regarding the investigation which were not actions I would have taken.
April 15, 201313 yr Author Some actions were taken regarding the investigation which were not actions I would have taken. For example? And everyone, I have met BBJ, smart guy with a good head on his shoulders and an analytic mind so I am interested in his perspective.
April 15, 201313 yr For example? And everyone, I have met BBJ, smart guy with a good head on his shoulders and an analytic mind so I am interested in his perspective. I personally feel that the Commonwealth Atty shouldn't have arrived on scene because he then becomes a witness in the trial and that causes chaos regarding bringing in special prosecutor, as well as the challenge of finding 12 unbiased jurors in Bowling Green on such a publicized incident. Apparently, after talking to a friend who's part of BGPD, he informed me that CA is on the scene at all homicide cases. Different strokes for different strokes, but if it were me, I'd like the police and investigators do there job and I would stay away from it, waiting on the reports to come into me. I feel that from what I see, there is probably enough evidence to indict, but probably not enough to convict, so that issue is kind of moot. There was a picture published in the BG Daily News that an on-looker took that showed Brown with his gun drawn pointing at Bradshaw. Some questions I have are: (1) I haven't heard for certain whether or not any gun was retrieved from Bradshaw's car, though I had a family member tell me that there was. (2) Who is the eyewitness testimony? I want to say I was told that Brown's wife was with him. But if they both pulled into businesses on probably the 2nd or 3rd busiest road in BG, there has to be several eyewitness accounts. Again, it's just a massive mess.
April 15, 201313 yr 1) Why did Brown decide to approach Bradshaw's vehicle? 2) Why did Brown decide to close Bradshaw's door on him?
April 15, 201313 yr Author I personally feel that the Commonwealth Atty shouldn't have arrived on scene because he then becomes a witness in the trial and that causes chaos regarding bringing in special prosecutor, as well as the challenge of finding 12 unbiased jurors in Bowling Green on such a publicized incident. Apparently, after talking to a friend who's part of BGPD, he informed me that CA is on the scene at all homicide cases. Different strokes for different strokes, but if it were me, I'd like the police and investigators do there job and I would stay away from it, waiting on the reports to come into me. I feel that from what I see, there is probably enough evidence to indict, but probably not enough to convict, so that issue is kind of moot. There was a picture published in the BG Daily News that an on-looker took that showed Brown with his gun drawn pointing at Bradshaw. Some questions I have are: (1) I haven't heard for certain whether or not any gun was retrieved from Bradshaw's car, though I had a family member tell me that there was. (2) Who is the eyewitness testimony? I want to say I was told that Brown's wife was with him. But if they both pulled into businesses on probably the 2nd or 3rd busiest road in BG, there has to be several eyewitness accounts. Again, it's just a massive mess. Based on your take the grand jury did its job if there wasn't enough to convict. Brown is not without fault here but we all have a right to self-defense. I wonder if any of the witnesses were close enough to hear the words exchanged because the words could swing my whole take on the incident. On the CA at all homicides, generally speaking I think that is a good thing but at the same time I think the CA has to be careful not to insert him/herself into the investigation. In other words, it will be the CA's case to prosecute the case so being on the scene can be of great help but the CA can't pierce the corporate veil so to speak.
April 15, 201313 yr Based on your take the grand jury did its job if there wasn't enough to convict. Brown is not without fault here but we all have a right to self-defense. I wonder if any of the witnesses were close enough to hear the words exchanged because the words could swing my whole take on the incident. On the CA at all homicides, generally speaking I think that is a good thing but at the same time I think the CA has to be careful not to insert him/herself into the investigation. In other words, it will be the CA's case to prosecute the case so being on the scene can be of great help but the CA can't pierce the corporate veil so to speak. Yup, it's a tight line to walk. I think the CA down in BG has done a pretty good job. He had it tough coming and being hit with the Autry case, but has since done a good job. I ultimately think, from what I have seen, they got it right.
April 15, 201313 yr Author Yup, it's a tight line to walk. I think the CA down in BG has done a pretty good job. He had it tough coming and being hit with the Autry case, but has since done a good job. I ultimately think, from what I have seen, they got it right. We are on the same page BBJ. Anyone else have an opinion?
April 15, 201313 yr Author 1) Why did Brown decide to approach Bradshaw's vehicle? 2) Why did Brown decide to close Bradshaw's door on him? I agree those are both issues/questions I would like to hear the answer to.
April 15, 201313 yr 1) Why did Brown decide to approach Bradshaw's vehicle? 2) Why did Brown decide to close Bradshaw's door on him? These are all just my inferences/best guesses. The real answers, we will never find out. (1) To basically confront the guy and say "Hey, what's your problem buddy?" Though a little more stern with some choice words. (2) To prevent a physical altercation, and show a control of the situation. Anytime you are seated and in an altercation you never feel like you are even grounds/level footing, both physically and psychologically, with the other party.
April 15, 201313 yr These are all just my inferences/best guesses. The real answers, we will never find out. (1) To basically confront the guy and say "Hey, what's your problem buddy?" Though a little more stern with some choice words. (2) To prevent a physical altercation, and show a control of the situation. Anytime you are seated and in an altercation you never feel like you are even grounds/level footing, both physically and psychologically, with the other party. 1) If you are carrying, you have to be very careful of confrontations. 2) You are carrying and confronted someone over something silly by going up to the other person, then shutting the door on that person, who may have thought that he was threatened. You mentioned "To prevent a physical altercation, and show a control of the situation", Brown could have controlled the situation by not following Bradshaw and by not going up to his car. Not arguing, I just feel that the GJ should have asked this stuff, and if so, it should be released. On #2, what if you were in Bradshaw's shoes and as you try to get out of your car the door was slammed shut on you, you are now being detained, and after some type of altercation on the road. What would you have done if you were Bradshaw? Plus what if some how Brown's gun was exposed?
April 15, 201313 yr 1) If you are carrying, you have to be very careful of confrontations. 2) You are carrying and confronted someone over something silly by going up to the other person, then shutting the door on that person, who may have thought that he was threatened. You mentioned "To prevent a physical altercation, and show a control of the situation", Brown could have controlled the situation by not following Bradshaw and by not going up to his car. Not arguing, I just feel that the GJ should have asked this stuff, and if so, it should be released. On #2, what if you were in Bradshaw's shoes and as you try to get out of your car the door was slammed shut on you, you are now being detained, and after some type of altercation on the road. What would you have done if you were Bradshaw? Plus what if some how Brown's gun was exposed? I agree wholly with you on number two. No reason to confront someone due to road rage, I have people do dumb stuff everyday when I drive, I just honk, laugh, or give them the bird. Unless you physically ram into my car and then drive off, I'm not going to purse you. Regarding the rest of your statement, this is where my skepticism on this case grows. I don't really think that there is a need for a public release of the GJ transcript; I don't think anything good could come from it. However, IMO, this is another black-eye for Bowling Green, there's been a lot of negative press, but almost all local. I'm actually fairly surprised it's just hit BGP.
April 15, 201313 yr Author However, IMO, this is another black-eye for Bowling Green, there's been a lot of negative press, but almost all local. I'm actually fairly surprised it's just hit BGP. I hear you BBJ, I am surprised you never informed us on this event either! :rage:
April 15, 201313 yr I am concerned about why Brown felt it neccessary to exit his car and approach Bradshaw with his gun concealed, then prevent Bradshaw from exiting his vehicle. That doesn't seem like self defense, that seems like the aggressor. If Bradshaw happened to see Brown's gun it seems like he was the one defending himself.
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