A few times on here I've mentioned tactics discussed and/or implemented in Florida that had the goal of suppressing the black vote in Florida. The legislature has floated many changes that would have that effect. More than once if I recall I was told I was reading too much into it.

 

Now I have a Florida Republican backing up what many of us saw.

 

 

Former Florida GOP Chair Says Party Tried to Find Ways to Get Blacks Not to Vote - Miami News - Riptide 2.0

 

 

Any time you see changes regarding voting your first thought should always be that someone is trying to get an edge. It's never about making sure everyone has the right to vote.

No surprise to me, sad to say.

Greer, who is on trial for stealing from the RPOF and who blames the RPOF for setting him up, is stating that the RPOF was trying to suppress black voters in Florida. He offers no evidence just his word and were suppose to accept it as fact? Funny what passes for proof depending on which side of things you're on.

Greer, who is on trial for stealing from the RPOF and who blames the RPOF for setting him up, is stating that the RPOF was trying to suppress black voters in Florida. He offers no evidence just his word and were suppose to accept it as fact? Funny what passes for proof depending on which side of things you're on.

 

He's only verbalizing what was obvious.

 

FL passed a law that said no more early voting on Sundays. Tell me why they would pick Sunday. Let me help you. It's because many black churches mobilzed voters that day to vote. Black voters.

 

FL and OH decreased the number of days allowed for early voting . Guess who won the early votes in 2008.

 

How many old black folk were born in a shotgun house and to this day have no birth certificate and do not drive? Suddenly, they're a problem when it comes to voter fraud?

 

WI mandated that students in college cannot vote unless their student ID has: current address, birth date, signature , and a 2-year expiration date. Problem is none of the colleges in WI give out IDs that have that info on it. Guess who young college students in WI tend to vote for?

 

WI also is shutting down DMV offices throughout the state with many of those being in black areas. Half of blacks and Hispanics in WI do not have a DL. So to get one they have to go find a DMV office that in many cases is open one day per month.

 

These are a few examples of various legislatures, including FL, trying to change the rules to favor their side. Nothing new. This guy , for whatever reason, tells us what should have been obvious to most.

He's only verbalizing what was obvious.

 

FL passed a law that said no more early voting on Sundays. Tell me why they would pick Sunday. Let me help you. It's because many black churches mobilzed voters that day to vote. Black voters.

 

FL and OH decreased the number of days allowed for early voting . Guess who won the early votes in 2008.

 

How many old black folk were born in a shotgun house and to this day have no birth certificate and do not drive? Suddenly, they're a problem when it comes to voter fraud?

 

WI mandated that students in college cannot vote unless their student ID has: current address, birth date, signature , and a 2-year expiration date. Problem is none of the colleges in WI give out IDs that have that info on it. Guess who young college students in WI tend to vote for?

 

WI also is shutting down DMV offices throughout the state with many of those being in black areas. Half of blacks and Hispanics in WI do not have a DL. So to get one they have to go find a DMV office that in many cases is open one day per month.

 

These are a few examples of various legislatures, including FL, trying to change the rules to favor their side. Nothing new. This guy , for whatever reason, tells us what should have been obvious to most.

Of the examples you posted only 2 involve FL and of those 2 only 1 involves black voters.

 

FL law outlawing early voting on Sunday - What was the reason Flordia legislation gave for this?

 

FL and OH decreased the number of days allowed for early voting - What does this have to do with black voters? What was the number of days before the change, what is it now?

 

Missing your point on the old black folk living in shotgun houses.

 

WI student mandate - Can you provide a link, the only thing I can find is you have to show an ID. Nothing about it having to be a student ID. What I did find said if it is a student id it has to have the 2 year expiration date.

 

 

WI shuting down DMV's - From what I found, which is from Aug of last year, they didn't shut down. As a matter of fact they expanded services. If you have a link that says different please post it. Also what I did find about the possible shut downs mentioned it was in areas that leaned democratic but never mentioned race.

UPDATE: DMV Announces Expanded Service Locations in Wisconsin

 

Are you telling me that Dems have never done anything to change rules to favor their side?

Are you telling me that Dems have never done anything to change rules to favor their side?

 

Classic response. Can't we move past this level?

 

No which is why I said "Any time you see changes regarding voting your first thought should always be that someone is trying to get an edge. It's never about making sure everyone has the right to vote."

He's only verbalizing what was obvious.

 

FL passed a law that said no more early voting on Sundays. Tell me why they would pick Sunday. Let me help you. It's because many black churches mobilzed voters that day to vote. Black voters.

 

FL and OH decreased the number of days allowed for early voting . Guess who won the early votes in 2008.

 

How many old black folk were born in a shotgun house and to this day have no birth certificate and do not drive? Suddenly, they're a problem when it comes to voter fraud?

 

WI mandated that students in college cannot vote unless their student ID has: current address, birth date, signature , and a 2-year expiration date. Problem is none of the colleges in WI give out IDs that have that info on it. Guess who young college students in WI tend to vote for?

 

WI also is shutting down DMV offices throughout the state with many of those being in black areas. Half of blacks and Hispanics in WI do not have a DL. So to get one they have to go find a DMV office that in many cases is open one day per month.

 

These are a few examples of various legislatures, including FL, trying to change the rules to favor their side. Nothing new. This guy , for whatever reason, tells us what should have been obvious to most.

 

Florida info:

 

Florida GOP Takes Voter Suppression to a Brazen New Extreme | Ari Berman | Politics News | Rolling Stone

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830

In regards to Wisconsin it looks like a judge overruled the legislature on part of it but:

 

eyes on Jun 5, 2012 at 9:00 am

MADISON, Wisconsin — Voter ID will not be in effect for today’s recall vote in Wisconsin, but that won’t stop last year’s anti-voter bill from disenfranchising thousands of students across the state.

A year ago, Wisconsin Republicans pushed through Assembly Bill 7, which enacted one of the worst forms of voter ID in the nation. Since then, two state judges have blocked voter ID from taking effect because the Wisconsin state Constitution guarantees that “[e]very United States citizen age 18 or older who is a resident of an election district in this state is a qualified elector of that district,” regardless of whether or not they have an ID.

However, a little-noticed provision in AB 7 will likely prevent thousands of college students from voting in today’s recall election.

Section 12 of the new law increases the time period a citizen must live in one location in order to register there from 10 days to 28 days. Though seemingly innocuous, the problem is that the five largest colleges in Wisconsin — University of Wisconsin-Madison (40,000 students), University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (27,500 students), Marquette University (11,500 students), University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh (11,500 students), and University of Wisconsin-Whitewater (11,000 students) — all had their graduations either the weekend of May 12 or the weekend of May 19, 24 days and 17 days ago, respectively.

Therefore, any student at these schools who registered to vote at school but is now home for the summer will not be permitted to update their registration at their parents’ house because they will have been home for less than 28 days. Under the old law, a student not on campus for the summer would have been permitted to update her registration at the polls and vote because she will have been home (or elsewhere off-campus) for more than 10 days.

As a result, thousands of Wisconsin students will likely be barred from taking part in today’s recall vote.

Wisconsin Secretary of State Doug LaFollette worried about the impact it could have on turnout. “It will really have a negative impact among college students,” LaFollette told ThinkProgress.

 

How Republicans Are Preventing Thousands Of Wisconsin Students From Voting Today | ThinkProgress

Classic response. Can't we move past this level?

 

No which is why I said "Any time you see changes regarding voting your first thought should always be that someone is trying to get an edge. It's never about making sure everyone has the right to vote."

Classic response. Completely ignore 99% of my post and pick out one line.

 

If that's all you took from my post I guess were done. I can't stand the they do it too excuse and that's not even close to what I was saying.

Classic response. Completely ignore 99% of my post and pick out one line.

 

If that's all you took from my post I guess were done. I can't stand the they do it too excuse and that's not even close to what I was saying.

 

Read everything before you take shots.

In regards to Wisconsin it looks like a judge overruled the legislature on part of it but:

 

eyes on Jun 5, 2012 at 9:00 am

MADISON, Wisconsin — Voter ID will not be in effect for today’s recall vote in Wisconsin, but that won’t stop last year’s anti-voter bill from disenfranchising thousands of students across the state.

A year ago, Wisconsin Republicans pushed through Assembly Bill 7, which enacted one of the worst forms of voter ID in the nation. Since then, two state judges have blocked voter ID from taking effect because the Wisconsin state Constitution guarantees that “[e]very United States citizen age 18 or older who is a resident of an election district in this state is a qualified elector of that district,” regardless of whether or not they have an ID.

However, a little-noticed provision in AB 7 will likely prevent thousands of college students from voting in today’s recall election.

Section 12 of the new law increases the time period a citizen must live in one location in order to register there from 10 days to 28 days. Though seemingly innocuous, the problem is that the five largest colleges in Wisconsin — University of Wisconsin-Madison (40,000 students), University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (27,500 students), Marquette University (11,500 students), University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh (11,500 students), and University of Wisconsin-Whitewater (11,000 students) — all had their graduations either the weekend of May 12 or the weekend of May 19, 24 days and 17 days ago, respectively.

Therefore, any student at these schools who registered to vote at school but is now home for the summer will not be permitted to update their registration at their parents’ house because they will have been home for less than 28 days. Under the old law, a student not on campus for the summer would have been permitted to update her registration at the polls and vote because she will have been home (or elsewhere off-campus) for more than 10 days.

As a result, thousands of Wisconsin students will likely be barred from taking part in today’s recall vote.

Wisconsin Secretary of State Doug LaFollette worried about the impact it could have on turnout. “It will really have a negative impact among college students,” LaFollette told ThinkProgress.

 

How Republicans Are Preventing Thousands Of Wisconsin Students From Voting Today | ThinkProgress

I read that, didn't tell me anything different.

Read everything before you take shots.

If you're talking about the 2 other posts you made that was done while I was posting. They popped up when I hit reply.

 

Also if you think that's taking shots you need to toughen up a little.

I read that, didn't tell me anything different.

 

What it should tell you is that despite the fact that there are no indications of voter fraud a R controlled legislature passed new rules that make it harder on groups that traditionally support the other side.

 

Same with the FL examples I posted.

 

With no indication of voter fraud what other reasons could there be that are valid?

What it should tell you is that despite the fact that there are no indications of voter fraud a R controlled legislature passed new rules that make it harder on groups that traditionally support the other side.

 

Same with the FL examples I posted.

 

With no indication of voter fraud what other reasons could there be that are valid?

Let me ask you this, I asked it in another thread of someone else but didn't get a response.

 

It's the cry of the opponents of voter laws that there is no need. I think a number of 13 voter fraud cases have gone to court. However I think it's been shown really how easy it is to have voter fraud so...how many cases of voter fraud do we need before it's ok to do something? If there is a threat of voter fraud, loop holes in the process so to speak, shouldn't things be done to tighten it up?

 

Would it benefit the R's...it could. Woudl it hurt the D's...maybe, maybe not. There are several states that have voter ID laws. How were those affected when the law went into effect?

Let me ask you this, I asked it in another thread of someone else but didn't get a response.

 

It's the cry of the opponents of voter laws that there is no need. I think a number of 13 voter fraud cases have gone to court. However I think it's been shown really how easy it is to have voter fraud so...how many cases of voter fraud do we need before it's ok to do something? If there is a threat of voter fraud, loop holes in the process so to speak, shouldn't things be done to tighten it up?

 

Would it benefit the R's...it could. Woudl it hurt the D's...maybe, maybe not. There are several states that have voter ID laws. How were those affected when the law went into effect?

 

The cry of "we're trying to fix voter fraud" is a red herring. Any voter fraud that is out there is not new. Why now with the flurry of states passing new legislation? Seems obvious as to the intent.