Everything posted by halfback20
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Ahmaud Arbery
Is it not part of the entire problem that someone possibly called on Arbery but not other people that did the same thing?
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Ahmaud Arbery
“And he’s been caught on camera a bunch at night. It’s kind of an ongoing thing. The man building the house has got heart issues. I think he’s not going to finish it.” https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/local_news/dispatcher-what-was-he-doing-wrong/article_fe51cdd4-3bb6-5815-9dec-ddcdc8f879f8.html It raises a lot of questions. He seemed to know a lot about the cameras. How'd he know the guy there had been there before? Did he have camera access? Did he know others had been there? Did he call on others?
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Ahmaud Arbery
Irrelevant to what happened that day. Someone called with knowledge that he had been in the house before and said it was an "ongoing problem". How did they know who was there and that it was an ongoing problem? If they knew he had been there before they knew others had too right? Why didn't they call on other people? I don't know for sure but its possible the homeowner is just distancing himself from people who took things way too far. Hopefully we find out.
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Ahmaud Arbery
Someone called while he was in the house and mentioned that he had been there on camera a bunch and it was an ongoing problem. Person mentioned the homeowner is sick and probably isn't going to finish the house. Made me think they know him or are taking care of the house, because they knew so much. If they called police on him and no one else that was in the house they're pay of the problem. Obviously the people who chased him down and shot him are the bigger problem.
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Ahmaud Arbery
Someone associated with the house did though right?
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Ahmaud Arbery
Did the homeowner call police on all of them? Because he did call them on Arbery didn't he? If he called on Arbery and not on anyone else, he is part of the problem. Maybe I'm mistaken and he didn't call them.
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Ahmaud Arbery
Right, but the DUI driver wouldn't cause everyone to lose their rights. That was my point. I get what you mean now though.
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Ahmaud Arbery
That's one thing people don't think about. Laws are different everywhere.
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Ahmaud Arbery
I don't see the logic of saying these two are an example of why people shouldn't be able to own guns. That's like saying a DUI driver who crashes and kills a family in another car is an example of why people shouldn't be allowed to drive. They messed up, not me. Fwiw, I think they will try some kind of self defense argument. I don't think it will work.
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Ahmaud Arbery
I answered the question, you just didn't like the answer.
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Ahmaud Arbery
I can respond whether you ask for my specific opinion or not.
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Ahmaud Arbery
:lol2: So you were wrong about the Dallas officer and my comments. Also, I'm not tearing down the victim. I've said countless times that even if he was doing something wrong in that house it's not a reason to kill him. I never rationalized anything, so you are wrong again.
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Ahmaud Arbery
Are you even reading what I am saying? What are you talking about? I didn't say anything about what others would believe, I said I can only speak for me.
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Ahmaud Arbery
I said before I can't speak for anyone else. But my experiences with people in my lifetime have shown me there are a lot of white people that would steal from their dying grandma.
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Ahmaud Arbery
You mean when I said this, chief ? I never once argued she was innocent or did nothing wrong. Think you're thinking of someone else.
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Ahmaud Arbery
I can't speak for anyone else. Can only speak for me. Are you saying I'm lying?
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Ahmaud Arbery
Maybe you are right. I don't know.
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Ahmaud Arbery
The video of him going inside a home that isn't his.
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Ahmaud Arbery
I have never once even came close to insinuating that. You know nothing about me.
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Ahmaud Arbery
You don't know that. It's possible they have done the same thing before and chased down a white person for committing a crime. Believe it or not, I know of a case where a white person was shot in the back (by a civilian) running away after committing a crime.
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Ahmaud Arbery
I am not assuming anything. I am looking at the available evidence and giving my opinion. It isn't impossible that he was out for a jog and I never meant my statement to be definitive. It doesn't appear to be someone out jogging to me. I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Ahmaud Arbery
There are a lot of white people who will steal from their own family without hesitation. I know plenty of them. Being white in itself doesn't make me assume you are innocent.
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Ahmaud Arbery
Then why have surveillance cameras inside?
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Ahmaud Arbery
I have seen this presented as an example of a black man being hunted down and killed for no reason other than jogging. If you can't see how that's misleading and leaving out some key information, I don't know what to tell you. I'm done with this one. But first, I'll say it again for those are waiting to say I think any of this means it was okay to chase him down and kill him....I don't think that. I've said from the beginning that was obviously wrong and I can't stand people who try to be the police when they aren't the police.
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Ahmaud Arbery
None of that matters. I am not arguing that he was a violent person who needed to be gunned down. I am arguing that we were mislead to believe he was simply jogging down the road and they profiled him because he is black and looked like someone who had broken into some houses before so they chased him down and killed him. That's not accurate. They saw him go into a house and someone called 911, then they chased him which eventually lead to a fight and resulted in him being killed. Again, to be clear, I don't think they should have chased him with weapons. It isn't their job. But it's also irresponsible to frame it as someone jogging down the road being gunned down for being black. That is not what happened.