TylerDurden

Birds by 90!

Oh man, here I am posting about helmet designs without even having gotten to the juicy part of the thread yet!

This sounds like the downstream result of all the drama around Coach Smith getting Das Boot at Tilghman a couple years ago.

On 10/9/2022 at 2:40 PM, TilghmanPride said:

Those are both pretty solid helmets. I honestly liked Union County's a little better without the outline of the county when it was just the big U with the arrowhead.

Tilghman has had that helmet forever, and I like it, but that Tornado logo is so cool, it's almost a shame not to see it on the helmets. But I do like seeing it blown up huge as the midfield logo at McRight Field though.

On 10/10/2022 at 11:42 AM, Smallhoops said:

I have read that the schools will continue to participate as separate schools athletically through at least 2023-24 school year.  Is there a chance the school board will undo the merger vote and the schools stay separate at least for now? 

So I seem to recall when Christian County and Hoptown were working on hiring new football coaches that the plan back then was to have the new school operating as two separate campuses and playing under one conjoined athletic program as the Wolfpack. Then once the new building was finished everyone would be at the new campus and the current Christian County and Hoptown campuses would go away.

That seemed pretty unfair to me, at least. So with the plan to continue on as separate schools for at least one more year, does that mean they are planning for everything to consolidate once the new building is completed? How is construction coming along at the new campus? I wonder if the KHSAA might have possibly poo-pooed the whole two campuses, one team idea.

On 10/10/2022 at 2:44 AM, killbilly usmc said:

I'll say Henderson by 21.

4 hours ago, Tkinslow said:

Daviess has a competitive team but I believe Hendo will be to much 35-14.

These two.

33 minutes ago, Karen said:

In all honesty Highlands is going to embarrass the Colonels.

Such a Karen thing to say.

57 minutes ago, OlDog75 said:

They heard it coming.  Why was the suspect not pulled out of the LEO's vehicle?

They were too busy protecting and serving to be bothered with it.

On 9/19/2022 at 12:43 PM, theguru said:

I would pass on another police gig for a million dollars so maybe @TylerDurden and I are one percenters.  Maybe I need to quit hanging out with motorcycle gangs, it is rubbing off on me, lol.

That's right. We drink our Bud Light with our pinkies out.

On 9/19/2022 at 12:25 PM, The Double Deuce said:

So you can't be paid to step foot in California, and @TylerDurden would pass on a high school coaching gig for a million dollars -- man, a lot of folks in this thread with all of the money!!  Darn one percenters!  🤑

For the record, I'll take any HS coaching job for a million dollars, and can absolutely be paid to step foot in California, if anyone is keeping track.  😎

Okay, so maybe I was being a little dramatic. Lol

I'd take the job for a million, but that doesn't mean the Danville job wouldn't still be a miserable job to have in its current state. And especially with the old administration and coaches in place.

13 minutes ago, Nuke LaLoosh said:

I thought the baseball coach resigned a couple of weeks ago.  Football definitely pays for a lot of other sports programs in the school

Didn't know the baseball coach resigned. That bodes much better for the future of other sports programs. And for the head coaches of those programs.

15 minutes ago, Nuke LaLoosh said:

I was told by a mutual friend of mine and Coach Clevenger's that Danville would be the only job he would take.  I agree with Danville Fan's post, I think Peach is a good coach, but he walked into a hornet's nest.  Anderson County sure hasn't been the same since he was let go there.

Right now I wouldn't take the Danville job if you paid me a million bucks a year. Especially with the baseball coach calling shots around the school and arranging for the administration to show Clevenger the door.

My question has always been, which makes the school and athletic department more money: baseball games or football games?

13 hours ago, Statsdontlie said:

I'll be glad when South Warren and Boyle County finally schedule each other. 

Count me as one who would like to see South Warren schedule more teams outside of the Western Coalfields and Mississippi Plateau. They have seen some decent teams in the Rafferty's Bowl here and there and they've had Central on the schedule for a few years now. I was pretty pleased to see the addition of Gibson Southern but that didn't pan out to be any kind of a game last year.

Just spitballing some opponents I'd love to see them work into the schedule...Owensboro, Male, X, Trinity, Manual, Ballard, Douglass, Boyle, LexCath, CovCath, Ryle, Brentwood, or basically any of the big dogs from Indy or Cincy.

3 hours ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

If you mean a program that the coaches work hard to promote their players and devote most of their time to make players and the team the best they can be. Also success breads success. Yes certain schools and even certain programs in a school draws athletes that are good at that sport. A perfect example right now if a player is a very good football player and prospect and lives say in Danville and parents are well off I would guess the kid will probably now go to Boyle County just as they will go to Douglass now over other city schools in Fayette Co. I would also say if a good football player with wealthy parents currently lived in Lafayette’s district the parent may very well pay the tuition and send their kid to Lex. Christian so they would have a better chance to succeed. 

Tell me you aren't trying to say that the coaches at Douglass work harder to promote their players and devote more time to making their players/team the best they can be than most other coaches do in the state...

2 hours ago, Horsepenny said:

I do not understand why individuals want to limit the ability of students to play sports anywhere? Sports teach teamwork, work ethic, require students to have good grades, give them opportunities for college admission and education. Are we helping our youth to achieve or we just have jealous squabbling adults?

This.

Let the kids transfer. There are 250+ KHSAA member schools in the state and if 25 kids from every grade in every school play sports that makes 25,000+ kids playing KHSAA sports in the state. And how many kids try to transfer in any given year that will actually result in any real change to day to day win-loss records of a school? 100? 200? Even if there were 200 bigtime transfers in a year, and I don't think there are or would be nearly that many, that's only 0.8% of the total students competing in the state. This is a lot of arguing over an overall small portion.

Let them transfer when they want, where they want.

17 hours ago, QBone2 said:

How many football players run track from your school? Any stand outs?

Specifically running track? Or any track and field events?

2 hours ago, steamroller said:

From what I have heard is that some of the following applied and interviewed:

Ashton Bailey, current coach at Lafayette High School and alumni of Shelby County : Interviewed 

Brock Roberts, current assistant coach at Collins, former head coach of Eminence High School : Interviewed

Matt Axline, current assistant coach and alumni at Shelby County High School : not interviewed

Coach from South Oldham : Interviewed

Coach from Western Hills : Interviewed

 

Seems like they passed over a lot of good quality coaches with HS experience for someone new.....very questionable hire imo.

And this is the kind of information I come to BGP to read. Wow!

9 minutes ago, TylerDurden said:

So if the new school isn't going to be built yet and they can't hold classes at the new school, how is there a new school? Why not keep everything as Hoptown and Christian Co until the new place is actually ready?

If consolidating schools without consolidating campuses is a fair thing to do, then I think Fayette County should announce they've merged all of their high schools into one super high school of like 10K students that holds its classes at 6 different campuses. They'll stomp a mudhole in every team they play in every sport they play.

Except swimming. St. X will still win swimming.

1 hour ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Last I read, they were aiming to have the schools consolidated for the 2023-24 school year, but they were saying in all likelihood, they would not be at the new combined campus at that time.

In other words, they would have one combined high school, "Hopkinsville Christian County Academy," but until the new campus was completed on the selected 87-acre site on Ft. Campbell Boulevard, the new "consolidated" school would be conducting its classes in the two school separate campuses: the current Hopkinsville High School campus and the current Christian County High School campus.

So if the new school isn't going to be built yet and they can't hold classes at the new school, how is there a new school? Why not keep everything as Hoptown and Christian Co until the new place is actually ready?

4 minutes ago, FLYGUY said:

A coach who cussed and yelled for 15-30 seconds!!! OMG whatever will we do! 

I'm all for the world to have thicker skin.

That notwithstanding, Atchley's blowups were taking place repeatedly in the classroom, so the fact that he is a coach is irrelevant. And there had been enough prior incidents of Atchley blowing up at kids that he was placed on probation by the school. And even after being placed on probation, as a grown man, he was unable to control himself well enough to keep from screaming and cussing at kids.

That is a problem.

28 minutes ago, Region2 Hype Man said:

That's the point I’m making. Clark wasn’t really any better than Dixie Jones, just had an easier schedule and went down to 4A. Not bad, but not special. Winning in 5A and 6A is HARD. There are really good coaches like Jones and Clark that could dominate the lower A’s, but not fit for the bigger classes.

Except Jones had spent 18 years as a head coach at Trigg, another year or two as linebackers coach at Hoptown under Clayton, then a year as head coach at Madisonville before he became head coach at Hoptown. Jones had all the experience in the world when he was given the keys to the program, and Clark was literally a first year head coach when he took over from Jones. That's a major difference to me if you're going to directly compare the two to one another.

36 minutes ago, Region2 Hype Man said:

Dixie Jones last year they beat a state champion Paducah Tillman. Played Craig Clayton’s Franklin Tennessee team. A Christian County team that went to the state title. Owensboro and Madisonville. They weren’t great, but go look at the KHSAA scores for that year and they lost 3 district games to Owensboro, Madisonville, and Ohio by 1 score. 3 plays in that season and they’re the 2 seed. So it’s not like they were far off from being competitive.
 

Clark arrives and it’s 0-10 and a running clock every game. His last 2 years he moved down to 4A from 5A and played a very soft schedule. Had a record setting QB and some of the most talented players in school history. And in those 2 years they don’t really have 1 win of note. Played 3 really good teams and went 0-3.

Clayton is also leaving it in better shape than what he took over from Clark in 2017. All 11 starters on offense were gone. Had a starter tragically pass away in the season. But then went further then Clark did with much better teams and had state finalist Franklin Simpson down 20-0 in the region finals. Clayton also started playing teams like Mayfield, Bowling Green, Louisville Ballard, etc and toughened up the district. Clayton also faced Logan County and Madisonville teams who were some of the best in their schools history.

Dixie Jones didn't impress at Hoptown. He took over a team that had it's only loss in 2004 in the AAA semis and then then basically led it on a steady decline. Jones' Hoptown teams went 9-4, 7-6, 4-7, 7-5, 3-8, and 3-7. He started off with a good program and then ended up with a program that optimists could maybe get away with calling "not far off from being competitive."

I guess I look at Clark's first year at Hopkinsville, which was also his first time ever being a head coach, as an uphill battle because he was taking over a team that had been on a downward projection for 6 straight seasons under Jones. Kids were jumping ship from Jones' teams and heading for greener pastures at Christian County. It's no coincidence that Lovelace took Christian to the state finals in Jones' last year at Hoptown. He did it with the assistance of all the kids who opted for Christian instead of Hoptown.

Just now, Big Fletch said:

If he does he will have some things to clean up much like he had to the last time he was there.

I think Clayton is definitely leaving the program in a significantly better position than it was when Clark took it over from Dixie Jones back in like 2010 or 2011.

Lol I still don't think we're going to see overly inflated sack numbers in high school drop. Not from some schools, anyway.

Is this where Marc Clark is gonna land?

1 hour ago, Tru2theblue said:

Ok what is it then? There is only a couple of reasons this happen.

1) touching a student

        A) sexual

        B) non-sexual

2) relations with a subordinate 

3) theft 

Something to that effect.

54 minutes ago, Tru2theblue said:

Takes something pretty dramatic to be let go 2x in 3 months time. 

Word around the water cooler in my neck of the woods was that the school was getting complaints about Atchley having meltdowns in class while he was teaching and parents were complaining about profanity laced tirades their kids were being subjected to. Was told he was placed on probation and the blowups continued so he was let get as a teacher which resulted in his dismissal as a coach. I've heard that from a couple of different people and they both have good reason for the info to be reliable.

If that's truly the case should that make a guy un-hirable? I don't know if I'd go that far. Would it possibly make it harder for someone to find a job in the immediate after being dismissed mid year for something like that? Seems possible.

Pretty embarrassing by Fayette Co Schools that this wasn't all sorted out before they announced the hire. Last I heard asking for references is a standard operating procedure in most situations when you're hiring new personnel. I'm curious what administrator was like, "Oh, you were teaching and coaching in October and now it's 3 months later and the same school year and you're unemployed. That doesn't seem curious at all. Definitely not worth me making a phone call to your old school to look into the situation."