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    NKBCA Preseason Top 10 Players

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    Apples and oranges when trying to compare style of play in 9th region ball vs AAU ball. 9th region ball seems to pride itself on defense. It seems 9th region teams often score more when they get out of the 9th than they do in the 9th. AAU ball is made for boys that are athletic and like to shoot because they face little strategic defenses.

     

    As I pointed out, Boone scores as much as anyone on a nightly basis. IMO they have been blessed to have a lot of scorers so the scoring is spread out so you don't see an 18 to 20 PPG player on Boone. That's usually a good thing.

     

    I don't buy the "system" excuse. Too many facts say otherwise.

     

    Ok, perhaps I am missing something here, in my book 'system' and 'style of play' mean the same thing. I may need a definition, word origin and can I have both used in a sentence. Only kiddng....

     

    I guess I should say, in my opinion, Boone's 'style of play' (or system???) isn't condusive to fully utilize Boone's players talents (Montgomery, Brown, Cotton, Popp, Gabbard, etc.) for the past few years.

     

    My definition........

    AAU 'style of play' = John Calipari's 'system' >>> up and down the court, helter skelter, cutting and slashing, etc.

    9th region basketball 'style of play' = Tubby Smith's 'system' >>> walk ball up the court, set offense, running plays, motion,etc.

     

    Does that sound about right?

    NKBCA Preseason Top 10 Players

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    I believe it was you who brought up the "system" issue, not me. I simply responded to it. As far as Montgomery, I have zero issue/s with this young man. Why do you have to make it personal? I am only looking at ONE thing when it comes to player skill evaluation. We just happen to disagree on the talent level, and the players who we think belong on the list. I just think there are other players who are more deserving sheerly from a talent perspective (on court performance). If he truly belonged on the list, you wouldn't have to use the "system" as a reason why he will not play to his full potential this season.

     

     

    Actually coach4life brougth up the 'system' talk in his post. Thanks Coach!! I just agreed with him. Lol.

    NKBCA Preseason Top 10 Players

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    I believe it was you who brought up the "system" issue, not me. I simply responded to it. As far as Montgomery, I have zero issue/s with this young man. Why do you have to make it personal? I am only looking at ONE thing when it comes to player skill evaluation. We just happen to disagree on the talent level, and the players who we think belong on the list. I just think there are other players who are more deserving sheerly from a talent perspective (on court performance). If he truly belonged on the list, you wouldn't have to use the "system" as a reason why he will not play to his full potential this season.

     

    Dispite the 'system', he is still on the list. And, it seems most, if not everyone on here agrees he belongs on the list.

     

    You are the one stating he doesn't belong on the list.

     

    If dunking in warm ups before the refs come out makes him an athlete, then we agree. I have watched closely for two years now and I am underwhelmed. Disappears for long stretches and is not a very good shooter. Hatton is unstoppable getting to the rim.

     

    I disagree with this statement (and that ok, that's why this board exists. lol). I believe (and it's only my opinoin) that the Boone system is not condussive to his (and others) style of play. Whereas, with his AAU team, a more up and down the court and a more spreadout system (fewer number of set plays, walking the ball up the court, etc.), he shined more than in high school.

     

    It really comes down to debating who is on the list, who is not and who should be on the list. You are saying out of the top 10 players, he is the only one that doesn't deserve to be on the list. I'm saying not only should he be, but also Trevan Brown should be as well (or should be close). I know I'm a Boone homer.

     

    I take it personally only because it gets frustrating seeing the Boone players (Montgomery, Brown, Cotton, Popp, Gabbard, etc.), year after year, not being able to utilize their talents to the fullest on the basketball court. That's all.

    NKBCA Preseason Top 10 Players

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    Gimme a break, please. The system? Here we go again. :rolleyes:

     

    We'll save the 'system' conversation for antoher thread.

     

    Here, we are discussing the top 10 players in NKY, which you feel Travis Montgomery clearly doesn't belong on the list.

     

    I would replace Montgomery with Hatton on this list. Very surprised Hatton is omitted here.

     

    If dunking in warm ups before the refs come out makes him an athlete, then we agree. I have watched closely for two years now and I am underwhelmed. Disappears for long stretches and is not a very good shooter. Hatton is unstoppable getting to the rim.

     

    While others tend to disagree:

     

    Wow. Hatton is a scorer, but Montgomery is probably the best athlete on this list. He is definately top ten.

    I agree!!!

    I agree also. If anyone had the opportunity to see Travis this summer they would know there is so much more to his game than the ability to dunk on everyone. Which he may do alot this year. He should come into his own this season. He will be very fun to watch.

    Travis will be in the top three this year if not the top 9th Region player. He averaged a double double all but three games this past year for Boone. He was in double figures for 2 out of 3 stats almost every game, scoring, rebounding and/or assists. He's an all around player that can give all aspects of all game including his exciting dunks!

    To add to this, Travis can definitely shoot the ball, but does not have the green light to shoot 3's. He just does not play in a system that allows him to showcase this talent.

     

    I really don't know what the issue is you have with Travis (spurrned AAU coach, etc.), however, to say he is NOT a top 10 player in NKY this year is rediculous.

    NKBCA Preseason Top 10 Players

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    They have 3 that deserve consideration - without question.

     

    In fairness to Montgomery he's played with some good players who have seemed to be more of a focus offensively. He's now THE MAN so he needs to play like it. He seems to have all of the physical attributes you're looking for so we'll see if that translates into more production.

     

    We'll see if the 'system' allows for him to be THE MAN. If he's allowed to play, he'll be the man, however, if he's not, Boone will continue to run the motion offense and score 50 points a game. Travis will get his 10 - 12 ppg, 5-6 rebounds per game, 2 - 3 assists per game. Just like last year.

     

    We'll see.

    NKBCA Preseason Top 10 Players

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    To add to this, Travis can definitely shoot the ball, but does not have the green light to shoot 3's. He just does not play in a system that allows him to showcase this talent.

     

    Ding, ding, ding..... Winner, winner, Chicken Dinner!!!!!

     

    This has been my argument for years with BCHS basketball. Their 'system' doesn't allow for athletes/basketball players to shine and show off their skills (like AAU does). That is why you see glimpes of really nice play and times of him disappearing, heck, there are long stretches of games when the WHOLE BOONE TEAM disappears.

     

    To say Travis isn't a top 10 player in the Northen Kentucky is ridiculous!!! He's top 5, easy!!! I would throw in Trevan Brown as top 10 (or close to it). The problem is, THE BOONE SYSTEM!!!!

     

    From reading these posts, perhaps I am incorrect, however, it is sounding like Dixie is loaded this year. We've brought up 4 players in a discussion of the top 10 players in NKY.

     

    They must be the early favorites to run away with the region with all that talent!!!

    Beechwood vs NDA volleyball predictions

    in KY Volleyball (High School)

    Posted

    Some of the boys' basketball districts still use the blind draw.

     

    Correct. In my opinion, it should be universal for the state. It's one way or the other for all districts, it shouldn't be up to each district with regard to blind draw / seeding. Nor should it depend on the sport.

     

    Beechwoodfan - When I say it 'doesn't matter', I mean that the argument for a blind draw versus a seeding doesn't matter because I don't see it changing. No matter how much it should be seeded, and I believe we agree there, that as long as the 'smaller / weaker' teams have a vote there is no way they will agree to seeding. If I'm Cov. Latin or Ludlow, I would vote for the blind draw everytime to give their teams a chance at regions. That's why I say it doesn't matter, because they can make the argument that their teams should get a 'chance' to go to regions and the blind draw is really their only oppurtunity. I disagree with that logic by those schools, however, that is the argument they will ALWAYS make! That is why it doesn't matter.

     

    I also agree with you that the blind district draw takes the Beechwood / Scott game out from last year if NDA and Beechwood would have played in the first round of the districts.

     

    As a side note, in my opinion, Beechwood should have won last year. They had Soctt right where they wanted/needed them. Heck, as NDA fans, we were rooting for our district partner to pull off that win. Then we could have had an all district regional final. Which would have been cool.

     

    That match-up has no chance of occurring again this year because of the blind draw. :irked:

    Beechwood vs NDA volleyball predictions

    in KY Volleyball (High School)

    Posted

    Keep dreaming Hulk and Cacdawg and perhaps ONE DAY your dream will come true, however, today won't be that day.

     

    NDA in two and Beechwood will be lucky to score 20 in either set.

     

    I really think there needs to be a state mandate on these district games instead of each district voting on whether or not to do a blind draw (which I believe happens in this district) compared to seeding. I understand why Ludlow and Cov. Latin vote for the blind draw (case in point, this year where the best two teams in the district are on the same side of the bracket) so one of them, every once and a while, will go to the regional tournament. This argument can be made either way, I can see both sides, so it really doesn't matter. What's the saying..... it is what it is?

     

    As far as the student section goes...... Beechwood does have a great student section and they will be a factor tonight. I'm all for cheering, chanting, etc., however, it does need to stay on the respectful side, which I am sure it will (not always been the case from years past). I'm sure the Beechwood administration will be in attendence (since they are the host school for districts) and will ensure that the students keep everything respectful.

     

    Good Luck to both teams and may the better team win!!!

    Volleyball: Louisville Invitational Tournament 9/10 - 9/11

    in KY Volleyball (High School)

    Posted

    NDA went 2-0 on Friday evening beating Presentation in 2 and Kettering Alter in 2.

     

    On Saturday, NDA lost to Sacred Heart in two (25-17 and 25-21) before falling to St. Henry (25-15 and 25-15) in a match controlled by St. Henry from start to finish. NDA finished Saturday with a victory over Lou. Holy Cross in 3 to finish, I believe in 7th place.

     

    Sacred Heart wound up winning the tournament in three over Louisville Mercy (22-25, 26-24, 25-15).

     

    I have not seen the final results of the tournament, however, I believe St. Henry finished 6th to bring home the highest finish of the NKY schools.

    Volleyball: Louisville Invitational Tournament 9/10 - 9/11

    in KY Volleyball (High School)

    Posted

    Hot off the presses the pools have been announced for this years LIVT:

     

    Pool 1 - St. Joeseph, Eastern, Ryle

    Pool 2 - Mercy, Manual, Greenwood

    Pool 3 - Assumption, NCC, Male

    Pool 4 - Sacred Heart, Ravenwood, Butler

    Pool 5 - Notre Dame (KY), Archbishop Alter, Presentation

    Pool 6 - St. Ursula, Holy Cross, Paul Dunbar

    Pool 7 - Northview HS, Bishop Fenwick, South Oldham

    Pool 8 - Notre Dame (OH), St. Henry, Lexington Catholic

     

    Friday Night NKY matches:

    6:30 @ Assumption HS - Eastern v. Ryle

    7:30 @ Assumption HS - Ryle v. St. Joseph; NCC v. Male

    8:30 @ Assumption HS - NCC v. Assumption

     

    6:30 @ OVVC Notre Dame (KY) v. Presentation; St. Henry v. Lex. Catholic

    8:30 @ OVVC Notre Dame (KY) v. Archbishop Alter; Notre Dame (OH) v. St. Henry

    Volleyball: Louisville Invitational Tournament 9/10 - 9/11

    in KY Volleyball (High School)

    Posted

    http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kyvb10/spec_6049

     

    This is all the information I could find with regard to the Louisville Invitational Tournament this weekend. I am assuming Notre Dame Academy and St. Henry are in this tournament as well this weekend, however according to the KHSAA website NDA is showing in Chicago and St. Henry is not showing as playing this weekend. Hopefully, those are typos on the KHSAA website. I believe NDA is in Chicago at the end of Sept. / early Oct.

     

    This tournament looks stacked again!!! Especially when you take a look at the scores of the top two teams in the state last night when they met:

     

    Mercy 3 at Assumption 2 (22-25, 25-23, 9-25, 25-22, 15-13)

     

    And Sacred Heart lost to both teams last week:

    @ Mercy 0 - 3 (L) (25-21, 25-18, 25-18)

    @ Assumption 0 - 3 (L) (25-16, 25-13, 25-19)

     

    My stab at ranking the Kentucky Schools for this tournament....

    Mercy #1

    Assumption #1a

    Sacred Heart #3

    Lou. Holy Cross #4

    Notre Dame #4a

    St. Henry #4b

    Dupont Manual #7

    NCC #8

    Ryle #9

     

    Is there any information available about this tournament?

     

    Is there a complete list of teams for this tournament?

    Highlands vs. Notre Dame Academy

    in KY Boys Soccer (High School)

    Posted

    But the same can then be said of players that practice on turf and then have to play on fields like Pendry or Tower Park, with the bumps and ruts and brittle clumps. The team that practices under those conditions, on poor grass, would have an advantage of knowing the speed of the surface, the irregular pitch etc....Right?

     

    Good point! I believe that is where 'Home Field Advantage' came from.....

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