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Questions for the refs

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I'm hoping an official on here can help me with two high school rules questions.

 

1.) Does an onside kick have to hit the ground before the kicking team can recover past the mandated 10 yards? Is this rule consistent with college and the pros?

 

2.) If a kickoff goes out of bounds past midfield at the 42 yards line, what are the options for the receiving team? Is it an automatic spot at the 42? A spot at the 35? Can the receiving team request a re-kick? Is this rule consistent with college and the pros?

#1 yes...ground or recieving team

 

#2 not sure...but spotting at the 35 is out. I suppose the recieving team gets at the spot or decline the penalty and kick it again?

I'm hoping an official on here can help me with two high school rules questions.

 

1.) Does an onside kick have to hit the ground before the kicking team can recover past the mandated 10 yards? Is this rule consistent with college and the pros?

 

2.) If a kickoff goes out of bounds past midfield at the 42 yards line, what are the options for the receiving team? Is it an automatic spot at the 42? A spot at the 35? Can the receiving team request a re-kick? Is this rule consistent with college and the pros?

 

1.) Any K player may recover a free kick if it has both touched the ground and goes beyond the plane of R's free-kick line. The two requirements may occur in any order. Both NFHS and NCAA are the same.

 

2.) R has the following choices for a free kick out of bounds:

a. Accept a 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and have K rekick.

b. Put the ball in play at the inbounds spot 25 yards beyond the previous spot. (That's where you usually get the 35 yard line from).

c. Decline the penalty and put the ball in play at the inbounds spot.

 

NCAA rules are slightly different:

B has the following choices for a free kick out of bounds:

a. Accept a 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and have K rekick.

b. Put the ball in play at the inbounds spot 30 yards beyond the previous spot.

c. Accept a 5 yard penalty from spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to team B.

I have a facemask question. I saw at least one friday night that was a five yarder. Is the unintentional still in effect or was it a botched call?

I have a facemask question. I saw at least one friday night that was a five yarder. Is the unintentional still in effect or was it a botched call?

 

Incidental face mask (the 5 yard variety) is still a foul in NFHS rules. However, it is no longer a foul in NCAA (only personal foul facemask, the 15 yarders, exist in college football).

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1.) Any K player may recover a free kick if it has both touched the ground and goes beyond the plane of R's free-kick line. The two requirements may occur in any order. Both NFHS and NCAA are the same.

 

2.) R has the following choices for a free kick out of bounds:

a. Accept a 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and have K rekick.

b. Put the ball in play at the inbounds spot 25 yards beyond the previous spot. (That's where you usually get the 35 yard line from).

c. Decline the penalty and put the ball in play at the inbounds spot.

 

NCAA rules are slightly different:

B has the following choices for a free kick out of bounds:

a. Accept a 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and have K rekick.

b. Put the ball in play at the inbounds spot 30 yards beyond the previous spot.

c. Accept a 5 yard penalty from spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to team B.

Thanks a bunch. Questions answered.

One more thing about free kicks:

 

In NFHS, if a kicking team member catches a kick which has not first touched the ground or a receiving team member, it is Kick Catch Interference.

 

In NCAA, it is legal for a kicking team member to catch a kick which has not first touched the ground provided it has broken the plane of, and remains beyond, the receiving team's restraining line.

Incidental face mask (the 5 yard variety) is still a foul in NFHS rules. However, it is no longer a foul in NCAA (only personal foul facemask, the 15 yarders, exist in college football).

 

OK. I had just saw it happen and listened to another game going home and they were talking about the NCAA rule being in effect in HS. I thought it had not changed. Thanks.:thumb:

I can remember seeing a team pooch kick a ball and catch it before it hit the ground and the officals gave them the ball.

I have one for you, I was told by a Western Hills coach that on Friday night they were apporached by the officals and were told that their association (the Nothern Kentucky Officals Association) had banned Cutter Gloves and they weren't going to allow them in the game. Now common sense tells me that if KHSAA has not banned them then the NKOA cannot as well. Clarification?

 

The gloves were allowed in the game only due to the home team coach (Grant Co) raising a stink about it as well.

There are some models of Cutter gloves that are legal, and others that are not. They all have the NFHS label, but the problem is that some of the gloves give the wearer the ability to palm a football without bending his fingers, they are that sticky. If your gloves will do this, or if they will not slide on a smooth surface, they are illegal, regardless fo the label.

 

Julian Tackett, KHSAA Football Commissioner, has informed all KY officials to ban these gloves if found on any player. Head Coaches were also present for this statement at the annual, mandatory rules clinics.

I have one for you, I was told by a Western Hills coach that on Friday night they were apporached by the officals and were told that their association (the Nothern Kentucky Officals Association) had banned Cutter Gloves and they weren't going to allow them in the game. Now common sense tells me that if KHSAA has not banned them then the NKOA cannot as well. Clarification?

 

The gloves were allowed in the game only due to the home team coach (Grant Co) raising a stink about it as well.

 

I have heard that at the state rules clinic, the KHSAA has ruled that there is one type of cutter glove that could be ruled illegal. They say you can litteraly pick a football off the ground with just the palm touching the ball only. I would not be surprised to see all cutter brands of gloves banned in the near future.

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1.) Any K player may recover a free kick if it has both touched the ground and goes beyond the plane of R's free-kick line. The two requirements may occur in any order. Both NFHS and NCAA are the same.

 

2.) R has the following choices for a free kick out of bounds:

a. Accept a 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and have K rekick.

b. Put the ball in play at the inbounds spot 25 yards beyond the previous spot. (That's where you usually get the 35 yard line from).

c. Decline the penalty and put the ball in play at the inbounds spot.

 

NCAA rules are slightly different:

B has the following choices for a free kick out of bounds:

a. Accept a 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and have K rekick.

b. Put the ball in play at the inbounds spot 30 yards beyond the previous spot.

c. Accept a 5 yard penalty from spot where the subsequent dead ball belongs to team B.

So if the kick goes out of bounds at the 48, can they spot the football there?

So if the kick goes out of bounds at the 48, can they spot the football there?

 

Yes.

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Thanks One more and I'm done.

 

Intentional grounding. Is there a tackle box like the pros that the QB has to be outside in order to throw the football away?

 

If not, a pass that drops 15 yards behind the receiver on the ground would be grounding if no one else was around?

 

Thanks

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