X vs CAL Last night

Runner on first, Pitcher from stretch begins by lifting leg.

batter in box calls time and steps back.

Home PLate Umpire doesn't grant time IMHO or my poor eyesight

Pitcher gets to the release point of the pitch and stops. He doesn;t release

Base Umpire steps in and calls time

Now 3rd base coach asks what is going on.

 

Count stayed the same.

 

What did go on? Nothing based on the count didn't change.

 

Should it been a strike since the batter stepped out-one opinion

or a ball or a balk since time wasn't out and the pitcher didn't release the ball on a movement toward home.?

The way I read the NCAA rulebook, there should be no pitch and a strike called, and the ball is still live.

 

Here is a link... Pg. 74-75

 

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2007/2007_baseball_rules.pdf

I believe it is actually an official "do over", for lack of a better term. The batter improperly stepped out of the box without receiving time from the umpire, but the pitcher then balked. At least in OBR (and I assume the same for FED), this is a no call and no pitch. Had the pitcher gone ahead and thrown the pitch, it would have been called whatever the pitch was (ball or strike).

Balk! If the plate umpire did not grant time, the pitcher should have delivered the pitch. If he had thrown the pitch, it would have been a strike, I don't care what location it was at.

Cooperstown has it basically right in the do over.

 

The batter may ASK for time but the ump grants it at his discretion. In this case IF the pitcher throws the ball then it will probably be called a strike and it's probably a very liberal zone.

 

The batter is not allowed to do anything that could force a balk. In this case step out of the box without time being granted. If he does then it's a do over.

I believe it is actually an official "do over", for lack of a better term. The batter improperly stepped out of the box without receiving time from the umpire, but the pitcher then balked. At least in OBR (and I assume the same for FED), this is a no call and no pitch. Had the pitcher gone ahead and thrown the pitch, it would have been called whatever the pitch was (ball or strike).

 

Coop,

You must have already received your FED books. That is absolutely correct. :thumb:

It is a balk but now I did go back and read if indeed another umpire called time, it is not a balk. My question, who asked this ump to call time?

It is a balk but now I did go back and read if indeed another umpire called time, it is not a balk. My question, who asked this ump to call time?

 

The umpire called time after the sequence of events to reset everyone...just like after a foul ball. The batter stepping out without time (causing the pitcher to stop his motion) is not a balk. It's in the rule book.

Coop,

You must have already received your FED books. That is absolutely correct. :thumb:

 

:lol: Not yet, but I did order it. :thumb:

The umpire called time after the sequence of events to reset everyone...just like after a foul ball. The batter stepping out without time (causing the pitcher to stop his motion) is not a balk. It's in the rule book.

 

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In high school:

 

If the the batter steps out of the box with both feet, and the pitcher goes ahead and delivers the pitch. It would be two strikes called.

The umpire called time after the sequence of events to reset everyone...just like after a foul ball. The batter stepping out without time (causing the pitcher to stop his motion) is not a balk. It's in the rule book.

 

 

OK, rules reference.

OK, I quit being lazy and looked it up, I stand corrected, it is a no pitch. Rule 6-2-4-d.1

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In high school:

 

If the the batter steps out of the box with both feet, and the pitcher goes ahead and delivers the pitch. It would be two strikes called.

 

Coach Kinney,

That is absolutely correct (and I'm wondering why more coaches don't have their pitchers go ahead and deliver the ball in that situation). 9 times out of ten, the pitcher stops his delivery. But,then we're glad that don't because when the pitcher does deliver the ball, you have a situation with a coach over why you didn't grant the batter time (and then you have to explain why the pitch head high is a strike). :argue: As blues, we are taught to try to avoid this situation as much as possible.

Balk! If the plate umpire did not grant time, the pitcher should have delivered the pitch. If he had thrown the pitch, it would have been a strike, I don't care what location it was at.

 

You cannot penalize the pitcher for the batter stepping out. The pitcher either throws the pitch or he stops and it is an official do over.

You cannot penalize the pitcher for the batter stepping out. The pitcher either throws the pitch or he stops and it is an official do over.

 

I guess you failed to read my last post correcting my error...... Sorry, unlike a lot, I will admit my error. I cited the rule for everyone to view..... enjoy