February 26, 200719 yr Did any of you see the segment from 60 minutes last night?Nope. Just talking from what I know. (Is that a big enough opening for you. :lol: )
February 26, 200719 yr Did any of you see the segment from 60 minutes last night? Sorry, I think we wandered away from your original question. Btw, I didn't see it. But now I wish I had!
February 26, 200719 yr Author The segment wasn't intended to place blame, only to tell the story of the children who were at the camp who performed Brundibar. There were other interesting tidbits, such as the villan in the opera had a mustache, and why did the Nazi's allow it's performance given that it was a very thinly veiled, if veiled at all, impersonation of Hitler. Also, some of those children are still alive, and were interviewed. The questions I ask are questions that came to me as I watched it. I am not trying to place blame. This is an era in history that holds morbid fascination for me. I can't wrap my mind around it and I read/watch everything I can about it to try and grasp an understanding of how one man could command such attention that so many could be convinced he was rational. How could the rest of the world not have acted sooner? How could the Church, the Red Cross and so many have fallen so easily into the charades of the Nazi regime? It's not about placing blame. It's simply about understanding. It's about wondering "what if" and hoping that humanity could recognize such atrocities in the future and not allow them to happen again.
February 26, 200719 yr I had known about this for a long time, but it brought to mind that some people still don't believe the Holocaust happened. I wondered, if you (the reader) had seen the propoganda film the Nazi's produced at the time the Holocaust was happening, would you have believed the Nazi's or the Jews?I don't think I would have believed the Nazi propaganda, primarily because our own propaganda was saying all Nazis are big liars and you can't trust anything they tell you. The newsreels of the opening of Auschwitz, Betzec, Treblinka, Jasenovac and the other extermination camps, not to mention the labour camps, would have certainly opened my eyes. As a sidebar, Klaus Barbie (for those of you who saw the movie Rat Race) wans't arrested until 1983 and died in prison in 1991 after serving only 4 years.
February 26, 200719 yr It's not about placing blame. It's simply about understanding. It's about wondering "what if" and hoping that humanity could recognize such atrocities in the future and not allow them to happen again.The sad truth is, I think it could happen again. And I'm willing to say I would probably have bought into it just like everyone else in Germany. A psychology class I had once, brought this issue up. It has a lot to do with group dynamics and psychology. I can't remember enough to really go into it; but we're social beings, with an instinctual need to belong and follow the crowd. When I was in high school, we had an exchange teacher from Bemerhaven, Germany. She literally would not attend any of our pep rallies. It totally freaked her out. She said it reminded her too much of the lock-step expressions of loyalty and mob mentality of the Nazi regime.
February 26, 200719 yr I don't think I would have believed the Nazi propaganda, primarily because our own propaganda was saying all Nazis are big liars and you can't trust anything they tell you.What if you were a German?
February 26, 200719 yr What if you were a German? I would have probably bought it hook, line and sinker. The sad truth is, I think it could happen again. And I'm willing to say I would probably have bought into it just like everyone else. 1975-1979 Cambodia 2,000,000 dead 1994 Rwanda 800,000 dead 1992-1995 Bosnia-Herzegovina 200,000 dead 1958-1961 and 1966-1969 China 49,000,000 dead 1948-1994 North Korea 1,600,000 dead 1975-1978 Ethiopia 1,500,000 dead and many, many more. Close to 100,000,000 people have died from genocide and mass murder in this century. About 2/3 of those have happened since the end of World War II. 2,500,000 of those deaths have occured since 1980. BF, I don't know if its that we keep buying in to it, we don't know what to do about it, or its always someone else's problem.
February 26, 200719 yr BF, I don't know if its that we keep buying in to it, we don't know what to do about it, or its always someone else's problem.I think it's all of the above.
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