My question is, why is this such an issue this year? It's like people want to see schools punished. I'm amazed that we now have what... 3 different threads talking about contact and non contact practices or camps? I'd say Ram has done a pretty good job of establishing that what is being done is legal under laws of the KHSAA. Just stop already.

 

#nevergonnastop

 

08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association

 

"There is no opportunity for any team activity in full gear prior to the first date of wearing gear on August 1. (not new, has not been allowed in past)."

RAM is totally write on this on. Camps help at Universities and "other" places not used for KHSAA sites will continue to happen, and continue to grow. Individual insurance is provided by the player NOT the school (KHSAA) and that absolves the liability that they have the players sign.

 

Camps will continue to grow because they make these programs and universities a LOT of $$$$ in the summer. This. Is. Fact.

 

They might grow, but camps will be before July 21st and only 5 or fewer players from each team can attend.

 

08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association

 

"There is no opportunity for any team activity in full gear prior to the first date of wearing gear on August 1. (not new, has not been allowed in past)"

 

All-star game/individual camp exception

 

Gear may be issued to a player who has previously played for the team to participate in an individual camp or all-star game between the last day of the previous season and before July 21.

 

No individual camp (not a single postseason all-star game) may be held at a KHSAA member school, or at a facility utilized for games by a member school if that camp includes more than five (5) individuals from the same school during the entire camp. This includes camps sponsored by outside entities if a member school’s coaches are present or any equipment is issued to participants.

 

The gear must be returned by the individual immediately following the camp.

Which program will challenge the KHSAA on this one?

hmmm and I thought Ram hated battling with me, :popcorn:

hmmm and I thought Ram hated battling with me, :popcorn:

 

Here are the big 3:

 

1.)

 

http://khsaa.org/handbook/20142015/bylaws.pdf

 

i) Following the season and until organized practice begins for

the next season, no football gear other than the helmet may

be issued used by a member of the team for any activity except

for the approved spring football practice period and issuance

of gear to a specific individual for attendance/participation in a

specific event at an off campus facility.

 

2.)

 

08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association

 

Restrictions and allowances after July 9 prior to first contact practice (practice in full gear):

 

7-on-7 and other simulations are allowed from July 10 to the first day any other pads are worn.

 

Catastrophic insurance is not valid during these simulations, and the helmet is the only equipment allowed to be issued.

 

No other pads can be issued to players prior to the first date.

 

There is no opportunity for any team activity in full gear prior to the first date of wearing gear on August 1. (not new, has not been allowed in past).

 

3.)

 

08/06/14 ? Football Equipment Restrictions and Reminders | Kentucky High School Athletic Association

 

All-star game/individual camp exception

 

Gear may be issued to a player who has previously played for the team to participate in an individual camp or all-star game between the last day of the previous season and before July 21.

 

No individual camp (not a single postseason all-star game) may be held at a KHSAA member school, or at a facility utilized for games by a member school if that camp includes more than five (5) individuals from the same school during the entire camp. This includes camps sponsored by outside entities if a member school’s coaches are present or any equipment is issued to participants.

 

The gear must be returned by the individual immediately following the camp.

 

Penalty for violation will be BOTH institutional, and against the coach, which may include multiple contest suspension.

Well I don't know about the rest of you but because it was in large font makes me believe in this issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well I don't know about the rest of you but because it was in large font makes me believe in this issue.

 

not

 

The issue is not whether you agree with the KHSAA.

 

The issue is whether or not head football coaches will believe that the KHSAA will follow through with punishment in the future for breaking these rules.

Easy to see that different people interpret these rules in different ways. Also it is very obvious that multiple teams interpret the rule as RAM does and have been going to these team camps for many years and have not changed their interpretation of these rules. It also appears that KHSAA is well aware of these team camps and the activities that are going on at these camps, and KHSAA is choosing, at least for the present time, to be siding with RAM'S interpretation of these rules. Expect no penalties to come from KHSAA over these camp activities.

It comes down to this.

 

KHSAA will do nothing to turn the tide on this problem. Head football coaches and their school districts will roll the dice and take their chances. If something horrific happens at one of these sites where contact occurs, then KHSAA can hide behind its Bylaw Shield and point in the direction of the school's leadership.

 

What a horrible way to protect football players!