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Cont, The Recruiting process

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Ok, last thread was pretty good but I did not attend for it to mainly focuss on D1 but I guess I kinda moved it that way. Let's move on to D2, what are your do and dont's.

 

I would say for D2 it's a lot the same as D1. The biggest difference would be the scholarships. D2 only has I believe 7.2 compared to 12 at the D1 level. A lot of that money goes to pitchers and catchers but you can get some money for athletic and academics and get your schooling paid for or close to it.

 

D2 doesn't generally recruit as early as D1. I would still say if you have a D2 school you are interested in its never to early to go to camps or start tying to make contacts with them but they generally won't offer till after your junior year. It seems like a D2, D3 and an Naia school are more likely to take an instate school but that doesn't mean you can't look out side if that is your wish.

 

Anyone with more insight please jump in to help families looking for it.

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I will add things as I think of them, please feel free to add anything also.

 

One thing that I think can be helpful for all levels is instead of sending an email, try mailing a letter, if you really like the school maybe even hand write a letter. Schools get hundreds of emails a day and it is really hard to stand out by sending one. If you send a letter by mail I would think it would catch their eye more. Probably harder to throw a letter away than it is to hit the delete button. I would say it's worth a try.

Something I would like to add to this conversation is the kid needs to do their homework. What do I mean by this? Find the schools which have the major you would like to get into. It makes no senses if you want to get into say nursing and the school has no nursing program. Take your ACT at the beginning of your junior year or at least in the 1st semester. When I was being recruited to play we took the SAT and the ACT really wasn't used at the schools I was looking at. But I am firm believer the more you take it the better you will score.

 

When I coached at the JUCO level I appreciated when a player sent me a letter with their high school and club team schedule. In their letter it was an intro of themselves, their stats (I really did not take much stock in their HS stats), and the names and numbers of their high school and club coaches.

 

Just thought I would put my 2cents in.

Something I would like to add to this conversation is the kid needs to do their homework. What do I mean by this? Find the schools which have the major you would like to get into. It makes no senses if you want to get into say nursing and the school has no nursing program. Take your ACT at the beginning of your junior year or at least in the 1st semester. When I was being recruited to play we took the SAT and the ACT really wasn't used at the schools I was looking at. But I am firm believer the more you take it the better you will score.

 

When I coached at the JUCO level I appreciated when a player sent me a letter with their high school and club team schedule. In their letter it was an intro of themselves, their stats (I really did not take much stock in their HS stats), and the names and numbers of their high school and club coaches.

 

Just thought I would put my 2cents in.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "I really did not take much stock in their HS stats". If a kid sent you a letter with phenomenal high school stats and did not play in the summer that didn't get your attention?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "I really did not take much stock in their HS stats". If a kid sent you a letter with phenomenal high school stats and did not play in the summer that didn't get your attention?

 

I should have explained it better but if someone has great high school stats I would still go watch the girl, but for the most part high school stats are not realistic in my opinion. Most of the time you have a parent (who is only helping out) doing them or a coach who just wants to make their players look good and get them recognized. I have seen where a girl hits a ball to a player, the girl bobbles it and the hitter makes it to first and it is considered a hit. That is an error. I have also seen "coaches" give someone a hit on a fielder's choice which we all know is not a hit, or how about a ball that is hit hard to the outfield and it goes between the girl's leg and the girl gets a "triple" is it a triple or is it a single? It is a single in my book in a lot it is a triple.

 

This is only my opinion but I believe if someone wants to get noticed and wants to play in college they have to play some sort of summer ball. That is what I grew up with and that is what I believe and know. In high school, especially here (I grew up in Texas) you might have a couple of good players on a team that dominate because the teams they play are weaker. I believe to get a true test of someone's ability is to put them on a summer/club team where everyone is pretty much equal to see how they do.

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I should have explained it better but if someone has great high school stats I would still go watch the girl, but for the most part high school stats are not realistic in my opinion. Most of the time you have a parent (who is only helping out) doing them or a coach who just wants to make their players look good and get them recognized. I have seen where a girl hits a ball to a player, the girl bobbles it and the hitter makes it to first and it is considered a hit. That is an error. I have also seen "coaches" give someone a hit on a fielder's choice which we all know is not a hit, or how about a ball that is hit hard to the outfield and it goes between the girl's leg and the girl gets a "triple" is it a triple or is it a single? It is a single in my book in a lot it is a triple.

 

This is only my opinion but I believe if someone wants to get noticed and wants to play in college they have to play some sort of summer ball. That is what I grew up with and that is what I believe and know. In high school, especially here (I grew up in Texas) you might have a couple of good players on a team that dominate because the teams they play are weaker. I believe to get a true test of someone's ability is to put them on a summer/club team where everyone is pretty much equal to see how they do.

 

To take it a step further, my daughter's college coach told us he could care less about summer or HS stats. He wants to know how she does against girls that are going to pitching at the D1 level. He said you can hit 1.000 against a D3 pitcher but that doesn't mean you are going to hit well at the D1 level. Again every coach is a little different but with the girls that we had I don't recall one coach asking about a kids stats.

 

I would agree, I guess there are some kids that go on to play in college that don't play on a summer team but my guess is that is a very low percentage.

To take it a step further, my daughter's college coach told us he could care less about summer or HS stats. He wants to know how she does against girls that are going to pitching at the D1 level. He said you can hit 1.000 against a D3 pitcher but that doesn't mean you are going to hit well at the D1 level. Again every coach is a little different but with the girls that we had I don't recall one coach asking about a kids stats.

 

I would agree, I guess there are some kids that go on to play in college that don't play on a summer team but my guess is that is a very low percentage.

 

Agreed with everything you said here especially with the bolded area!

Agreed with everything you said here especially with the bolded area!
I would think a coach would think that he could work with a girl that hits exceptionally against lesser pitching.
I would think a coach would think that he could work with a girl that hits exceptionally against lesser pitching.

 

Makes no sense to me. The whole point is does this player ever play against better pitching? If not why would a coach waste a scholarship? If she never plays against better pitching/players then how would a coach know if she could play in college?

Something I would like to add to this conversation is the kid needs to do their homework. What do I mean by this? Find the schools which have the major you would like to get into. It makes no senses if you want to get into say nursing and the school has no nursing program. Take your ACT at the beginning of your junior year or at least in the 1st semester. When I was being recruited to play we took the SAT and the ACT really wasn't used at the schools I was looking at. But I am firm believer the more you take it the better you will score.

 

When I coached at the JUCO level I appreciated when a player sent me a letter with their high school and club team schedule. In their letter it was an intro of themselves, their stats (I really did not take much stock in their HS stats), and the names and numbers of their high school and club coaches.

 

Just thought I would put my 2cents in.

Would you paid any attention if you seen them run home to first 2.7 in the mud, throw over hand 70mph, hit one 250' or throw a runner out from home with a pop time of 1.75? In the same game on video where you could time everything yourself?
Would you paid any attention if you seen them run home to first 2.7 in the mud, throw over hand 70mph, hit one 250' or throw a runner out from home with a pop time of 1.75? In the same game on video where you could time everything yourself?

 

Totally different. We are talking STATS not reaction time, how hard a kid throws or speed. Two totally different things.

Totally different. We are talking STATS not reaction time, how hard a kid throws or speed. Two totally different things.
I know they are different. I was asking you a question.
I know they are different. I was asking you a question.

 

Why wouldn't any coach look at a kid who had those numbers?

 

However, with that said stats mean very little in my opinion. Can they get a coach to a game, absolutely. Does it mean a girl can play in college, absolutely not.

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Would you paid any attention if you seen them run home to first 2.7 in the mud, throw over hand 70mph, hit one 250' or throw a runner out from home with a pop time of 1.75? In the same game on video where you could time everything yourself?

 

I would say those numbers are at the very top end of D1, if I had to guess 99% of D1 players can't throw the ball 70 mph....about 95% can't run a 2.7 from home to first even with out the mud (I think Natasha Watley is around 2.5 or 2.6) and most girls will never hit a ball 250'...

 

I would think with those type of numbers most college coaches would offer on the spot on potential alone.

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Something I would like to add to this conversation is the kid needs to do their homework. What do I mean by this? Find the schools which have the major you would like to get into. It makes no senses if you want to get into say nursing and the school has no nursing program. Take your ACT at the beginning of your junior year or at least in the 1st semester. When I was being recruited to play we took the SAT and the ACT really wasn't used at the schools I was looking at. But I am firm believer the more you take it the better you will score.

 

When I coached at the JUCO level I appreciated when a player sent me a letter with their high school and club team schedule. In their letter it was an intro of themselves, their stats (I really did not take much stock in their HS stats), and the names and numbers of their high school and club coaches.

 

Just thought I would put my 2cents in.

 

I would add to the highlighted part if a coach is pre registered to a tourney that you are attending send them a reminder that you will be there and give them your game times and field #'s....always include your coaches cell number for them to reach if they have any further questions, provide yours also but remember they can't call you until July 1 after your junior year.

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