Just do not know what else to call it. What are the merits to be POY, if not stats then what. IMO what the TOG is telling me is that Lankheit should be voted CCH, MVP, not sure about region POY.

Just do not know what else to call it. What are the merits to be POY, if not stats then what. IMO what the TOG is telling me is that Lankheit should be voted CCH, MVP, not sure about region POY.

 

Stats are part of it. However, it cannot be all of it or there would never be a need for a vote. There are always intangibles involved. I would say for Jake that his defense at a key position factored in as well.

 

Politics would be if Krumps called the voters and said "take care of my boys" or if he called Skinner at the Enquirer and said "let me take you out for a beer." I've got a better chance of exploding while typing this than either of those two things happening.

Just do not know what else to call it. What are the merits to be POY, if not stats then what. IMO what the TOG is telling me is that Lankheit should be voted CCH, MVP, not sure about region POY.

 

So can we assume that anyone chosen other than your grandson would not be deemed a legitimate pick in your eyes? Wow, just congratulate the kids that won and move on. I could rail on (and post stats) about how Downs from Ryle should've been in the mix, but not much purpose served. Congrats to Lankheit. Congrats to Maile. Both excellent players that deserved the accolades. To the other very high quality players out there that didn't get selected, congrats on your fine performances and careers as well.

Stats are part of it. However, it cannot be all of it or there would never be a need for a vote. There are always intangibles involved. I would say for Jake that his defense at a key position factored in as well.

Politics would be if Krumps called the voters and said "take care of my boys" or if he called Skinner at the Enquirer and said "let me take you out for a beer." I've got a better chance of exploding while typing this than either of those two things happening.

 

I would submit that the people voting on the awards generally aren't all that familiar with a player's defense, as they simply don't see enough of each potential candidate's games to know where they stand defensively. Most of the other kids considered usually play meaningful defensive positions as well - CF, SS, 3B, etc. Don't disagree that C is not an extremely important - maybe the most important - defensive position, but very much doubt that Enquirer voters have seen enough of Lankheit to know if defensively he was the second coming of Johnny Bench or second coming of Mike Piazza. By and large, this is an offensive/pitching based award.

I would submit that the people voting on the awards generally aren't all that familiar with a player's defense, as they simply don't see enough of each potential candidate's games to know where they stand defensively. Most of the other kids considered usually play meaningful defensive positions as well - CF, SS, 3B, etc. Don't disagree that C is not an extremely important - maybe the most important - defensive position, but very much doubt that Enquirer voters have seen enough of Lankheit to know if defensively he was the second coming of Johnny Bench or second coming of Mike Piazza. By and large, this is an offensive/pitching based award.

 

Jake did not win the Enquirer POY. His POY came from the coaches.

Jake did not win the Enquirer POY. His POY came from the coaches.

 

While I didn't realize hiswas the coaches' award, it really doesn't change my opinion all that much. Coaches don't see players from other teams other than a few times a year (at most) either. Definitely the case with the Enquirer award. It would be impossible for Enquirer guys to see enough of each possible POY candidate to truly assess their defensive skills. Catcher would certainly be the easiest to do, since he's active on every play. But you could go to a game of a CF in the running for the award and only see him catch one routine fly ball. Doesn't tell you much. Maile was the logical choice because he put up such stellar numbers both pitching and hitting. I do, however, think the Pitcher of the Year (if they give that award) is unquestionably Downs.

While I didn't realize hiswas the coaches' award, it really doesn't change my opinion all that much. Coaches don't see players from other teams other than a few times a year (at most) either. Definitely the case with the Enquirer award. It would be impossible for Enquirer guys to see enough of each possible POY candidate to truly assess their defensive skills. Catcher would certainly be the easiest to do, since he's active on every play. But you could go to a game of a CF in the running for the award and only see him catch one routine fly ball. Doesn't tell you much. Maile was the logical choice because he put up such stellar numbers both pitching and hitting. I do, however, think the Pitcher of the Year (if they give that award) is unquestionably Downs.

 

Agreed overall.

 

Skinner does his own with a lot of input from coaches but ultimately he makes the final decision for the Enquirer POY.

 

IMO Downs not batting hurts him in POY voting even though in one game he may be the most dominant player in NKY.

Agreed overall.

 

Skinner does his own with a lot of input from coaches but ultimately he makes the final decision for the Enquirer POY.

 

IMO Downs not batting hurts him in POY voting even though in one game he may be the most dominant player in NKY.

 

I think it hurt him this year because there was that one player out there (Maile) who put up such stellar number in multiple areas. If Maile had hit .100 less or had several more losses pitching than he did, it probably would have been very close. The right choice was made. Though I agree that on a single given night, Downs was the most dominant player in NKY.

 

Maile will be tough to beat out again next year. It'll probably take someone else who can up numbers both pitching and hitting to push him - perhaps players like Bartels, Cain, Maines, Collins, Tiberi, etc..

 

Maile will be tough to beat out again next year. It'll probably take someone else who can up numbers both pitching and hitting to push him - perhaps players like Bartels, Cain, Maines, Collins, Tiberi, etc..

 

Ben graduated.

Ben graduated.

 

Well then that's going to make it extremely tough for him to win this award again next year.

 

Was thinking he was a junior. Starting with my Halfziemer's medication soon.

Well then that's going to make it extremely tough for him to win this award again next year.

 

Was thinking he was a junior. Starting with my Halfziemer's medication soon.

 

If Ben DOES win it next year then we know Krumps has some serious political pull.

Plenty of good players to be considered for any award, it is rare where one player is head and shoulders above the rest of the league, region, or state to be a runaway winner.

Congratulations to all the ballplayers considered for excellent seasons, and hats off to those that take home the award....

Is this Rick's son? HHS Class of 84?

Is this Rick's son? HHS Class of 84?

 

 

Yes. Rick deserves a lot of credit for teaching Jake how to play.