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A German Shepherd's bite force is stronger than a pit bulls...Are we going to kill all of them too??

 

Which Dog Breed Has the Strongest Jaw

 

"Although the German Shepherd was originally bred as a herding dog, it has been used as a guard and police dog with good reason. This is a powerful and intelligent breed. The German Shepherd's bite measured 238 bite force, just slightly above the Pitbull."

The article you quoted acknowledges that the results are rather "iffy".

Actually, the article doesn't mention a Belgian Malinois, which I find surprising. Making the article more suspect to me is the fact that when I was still on active duty, the Marines were considering going away from Shepherds and replacing them with Malinois because the jaw strength of the Malinois was stronger. Shepherds consistently had to release their bites and re-bite because of the lack of jaw strength. The Malinois did not. The Beaufort County SC sheriff's dept had already switched to Malinois and we got to watch them work their dogs. Henry actually took a bite from a Malinois. Even with heavy duty protective gear, when it bit down on her arm she thought it was broken. The dog tossed her around like she was a toy doll.

So it's OK because a lot of them do it? If schools are drug testing aren't they knowingly putting them self at risk of getting kicked off of most teams? Just stupid and selfish IMO.

As to the bolded: bingo! I don't care what the rule is that they broke. If the rule they broke was "you can't wear flip flops" I'd feel the same way: they aren't disciplined enough to follow a simple rule. I won't debate whether smoking pot is good or bad for you; I won't debate how many college students smoke pot. Those things are irrelevant to me. The Coach has a rule and they weren't disciplined enough and did not accept the personal responsibility to follow it. Period. They now pay the consequences and I feel no sadness for them.

Absolutely awful. Heart breaks for the little girl and her family.

 

It's all about the owners and how they train the dogs.

 

An old lady I know tripped over a little lapdog and fell, the dog proceeded to rip her face up, needing 20+ stitches, etc. Point being, any dog breed, has it in them to attack and get vicious.

 

I know a couple people who own pit bulls and they're very friendly calm dogs. Wouldn't want them around kids, but again, it's about being a responsible owner, and doing the necessary training.

Had that been a PB, that old lady would have probably been dead. Jaw strength of a PB is deadly. All dogs can "snap" and go from calm to aggressive in split second. It doesn't matter how well they were raised or how responsible their owners were. I've been around and owned dogs pretty much my entire life. Had a German Shepherd when I was younger. It never showed any aggressiveness. In a split second and without warning, it attacked my younger brother. I was there to stop it. Dog gone as soon as my parents could get rid of it.

You can try to keep PBs away from young kids and the elderly, but dogs get loose. I'd hate myself if I owned a PB that got loose and attacked a young child or elderly person causing extreme injuries or worse death.

All dogs, whether pure bred or mixed, can become aggressive. Difference between a Shih Tzu and a PB being aggressive is dramatic. Jaw strength of a PB is deadly.

The use of the middleman seems to have always been a way around the dreaded "negotiating with terrorists" cliche. That didn't change here.

 

It could have an impact on the 30-day issue. Not sure. Seems like there are some Constitutional powers the President has that would trump the 30-day notice in certain types of cases.

There has been for quite some time a dispute concerning how far the powers of a President as the CIC actually extend. Whether it be the War Powers Act or the 30 day notice to Congress issue in play here, Congress has been attempting to clip the wings of a President's powers involving certain aspects of the military.

I absolutely detest when a President, any President, signs a bill into law with a "reservation of rights" side letter. If a President doesn't think a provision in a bill is constitutional, he shouldn't sign it. If, however, a President is going to use the "reservation of rights" route, there should be a requirement that such President must file a declaratory judgment action within 30 (or some reasonable number) days contesting the applicable provision on which he is "reserving his rights". The approach taken in the past is just stupid and does nothing but kick the can down the road and create divisive problems like we are seeing here.

Not to make light of the situation but I feel like one day we'll hear of some secret mission where we took out a whole cell of the Taliban because somehow we tracked these men that we released. But, I have been binge watching old seasons of 24.

Me too. I hope they were able to secretly place some tracking devices in the bodies of the 5 terrorists while they were at Gitmo.

I'm sure. I bet no one is making up stories or tellling lies out there. :lol2:

Actually I wouldn't know. I don't belong to a shooting range. :clap:

Local barber shop and shooting range is where I get my most accurate information.

Unfortunately, your call for Obama's impeachment yesterday appears to have been based on emotion, despite your statement to the contrary. It certainly wasn't based on full information -- explanation of administration motives, the element of international law, whether the prisoner exchange is part of a broader Afghanistan-exit strategy, on and on.

 

I would also argue that we have two separate issues here: (1) Whether Bergdahl sought out the enemy vs. being captured and (2) the duty of this country to bring home all of our men and women in uniform held by the enemy. To say we shouldn't have done 2 because of 1 is not what this country is about.

You are wrong. My call for President Obama's impeachment is based upon: President Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations Of 2013 - Forbes ; https://www.committeeforjustice.org/content/25-violations-law-president-obama-and-his-administration ;The PJ Tatler » Did Obama?s Taliban Swap Break the Law? Democrat Law Prof Says?

and my belief that he broke the law requiring 30 days notice to Congress. Spokespersons for his administration have claimed that the 30 day notice requirement is unconstitutional. And it well may be. But shouldn't we require the highest elected official to comply with all laws until such law is decided by the judiciary to be unconstitutional? This lawyer thinks so. If President Obama felt that the 30 day notice requirement was unconstitutional, he should have immediately filed suit after the law was enacted to determine its unconstitutionality. But unless and until it (and any other law) is determined by the judiciary to be unconstitutional, it IS the law and I expect and believe the President is required to follow it.

I asked earlier, but does anyone know how many other US Soldiers are being held captive in a similar capacity?

 

I have almost come to the conclusion that the administration felt this trade keeps us safer than holding on to the now released detainees. Meaning, in the Administration's eyes, he is more dangerous than the five released. This possible?

I have thought about that too; well sort of from the perspective of can the release actually make the US safer.

President Obama has been attempting to come to some type of truce with the Taliban in Afghanistan. If the release of the 5 terrorists was a major part of making that truce possible and de-escalating the Taliban's terrorist activities towards the US, then I'd honestly look at the release a bit differently perhaps. But up to now, the justification from the Administration for the release has been strictly based on the leave no American behind logic. If I had more faith in President Obama's foreign policies and affairs skills, I might be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and even accept the possibility that there is some behind the curtain benefit justifying the release. But being honest, I don't have that faith. I think President Obama's administration bungled Benghazi, made the wrong decision on the troop draw down (and pending withdrawal) in Afghanistan, handled Russia's activities in Ukraine poorly, and has all in all just done a very bad job in foreign policy matters. Others can disagree and I'm fine with that. Just how I feel.

Stripping emotion away, I agree.

I firmly believe that, in all phases of life (other than marriage decisions of course), the best decisions are made when emotion is stripped away. Certainly a decision as important as this one, as impactful as this one may be, needed to be made stripped of emotion.

Curious to know Clyde how you feel about the possible impact of the release (or exchange if you want) of the 5 terrorists? Do you think it will cause more Americans to be taken prisoner? If the 5 released terrorists return to their "old ways" and many innocents are killed due to the efforts of the 5, would it be fair to place the innocents' blood on President Obama's hands? Will this decision materially and adversely impact our ability to ask foreign governments not to release terrorists that we consider an extreme threat to us and we don't want released?

If the allegations of the soldier who wrote the column below are true, then at least six Soldiers died while searching for a deserter. I hope that if the column is accurate the Army prefers a court-martial against Bowe Bergdahl. I fear that President Obama will pin a medal on his chest and continue to selectively follow U.S. law.

 

We Lost Soldiers in the Hunt for Bergdahl, a Guy Who Walked Off in the Dead of Night

While the possibility Berdahl was a deserter bothers me, I'm not letting my emotions impact my thought process on this. I'd feel the same way about the exchange if the military member being held was a dedicated member of Seal Team 6. Unless information unfolds indicating that the 5 terrorists really "weren't that bad", I have to believe based on their past bad acts, that these 5 dudes are 5 very bad people and once free will be committed to do really bad things against the US' best interests and against US citizens and military members. Perhaps that belief is wrong, but I've yet to learn anything that causes me to conclude these 5 terrorist are going to return to the family farm to live out the rest of their lives in peace. If just one of the 5 returns to his bad ways and causes the death of 1 or more US military members (or even worse, the deaths of US citizens on US soil), how will President Obama (or anyone supporting the exchange) be able to justify trading those lives to save Berdahl's?

If the continued imprisonment of the 5 terrorists meant the loss of Berdahl's life, while such may be tragic, it is a price that sometimes must be paid to protect the US. Military members understand that and accept that risk when they sign up.

I do want to talk a bit about the "no one left behind" concept because it is being used by some to to justify the exchange. As a former Marine, I fully appreciate and understand "no one left behind". But it has its limits. It is not the paramount concept on the battle field. The primary objective is to accomplish the mission; doing so is paramount. The secondary objective is welfare of your Marines. If a wounded Marine has to be left behind in order to accomplish the mission, he or she gets left behind. Unfortunate, but necessary.

The mission in Afghanistan was to weaken terrorists to the point they could no longer mount terrorist attacks on US citizens or US interests. If the impact of releasing the 5 terrorist leaders adversely effects the mission, then Berdahl or any other military member should have been left behind. I hope I am wrong, but I have no reason to believe that the release of the 5 terrorists will help accomplish the mission.

So we should have let the young soldier be strung up, like Col. William Higgins in Lebanon 25 years ago? Here's a novel idea: Why don't we let the facts emerge before proceeding with this ludicrous impeachment talk. You won't catch as many "likes" from the right-wing base, but it might be the prudent thing to do.

Ttp, I don't make posts to get likes from the right wing base or any one else for that matter.

I need no more facts than 5 very, very dangerous terrorists were set free in exchange for one soldier. Sounds cold I know, but if the young soldier ended up "strung up", that is simply a cost of the war. His life is worth no more than any other American military member who was placed in harm's way to capture those 5 terrorists so they could be stopped from carrying out their activities.

This was a dumb move by the Administration. Very dumb. And I'd feel the same way if it had been my son.

And I feel that way without taking into consideration the guy may have deserted; may have actually assisted the Taliban; may have caused the deaths of soldiers that were sent out looking for him; and the Administration may have broken the law by not appropriately notifying Congress.

I have been very cautious and judicial in my judgment of President Obama. I am as far from being a "bomb throwing" extremist as a conservative can be. I have come to the conclusion however that President Obama should be impeached. And I mean that. It pains me to admit that because in doing so I have now admitted that those conservatives "lobbing bombs" at President Obama years ago were correct and I was wrong. I don't like being wrong. I was terribly wrong. President Obama and Attorney General Holder simpy will do whatever they want to do, regardless of the law.

He was elected by a slim margin of the United States Supreme Court...

 

*That should get things started*

It may but I won't be involved.

Depending on the weapon, that ID would be used to run a background check. Your comparison is apples to ammo anyway. I'm not even against having to show an ID, I just don't want it to be cost prohibitive to low income voters from voting.

I agree with your last sentence and my guess is that just about everyone else posting in this thread does too.

"Well regulated" and votes don't kill people.

Then all those folks who have criticized former President Bush for the deaths resulting from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars need to shut up because he got elected President by votes.

Disappointed Garrett lost, but otherwise a good night. Thanks to everyone that took the time to vote yesterday. It truly does matter.

Correction: in the part of my post discussing the J/E race, I said the median income in CC is $41,903; actually it was $41,903 15 years ago when Pendery became J/E. Now it is $53,580, having come up almost $12,000 during Pendery's tenure and now is only $320 behind Kenton County. My apologies to Pendery for understating the median income number.

Until you give more detailed reasoning I refuse to take you seriously -- obviously JK -- well done LN .

Thanks. And I apologize everyone for the typos. I was in a rush when I typed that post as I had something that had to get out for a client this morning. But I thought it important to make the post as early in the day as possible. Too late now to edit. Again, my apologies for the typos.

A few years back, I posted who I intended to vote for in local races. Several BGPers stated that they appreciated my input, particularly on the local races since they did not follow local politics as closely as I did. Recently one of those BGPers asked me to do it again. So here goes.

But first, my "credentials" if you will. I've followed and been involved in local government for quite some time. Plus, I've been involved on boards and in organizations impacted by and impacting local government. I was on the Tri Ed Board for two terms; I was on the Airport Board; I was the President of the NKU Foundation Properties corporation; I was on Ft. Thomas's Board of Adjustment and then its City Council; I'm on the Board of the Campbell County Leadership Action Group and have served as its President; past co-chair of the NKU Technology Triangle committee; and I'm on the SD1 Board. Suffice it to say, I'm pretty snapped in to local government matters, particularly in Campbell County.

1. Pendery or Sell. I'll discuss this race the most because it is the most important to Campbell County local government. Perhaps if I didn't have the above experience and simply relied on what Sell has stated in his mailers and press releases, I might be inclined to consider voting for Sell. But I won't. I am voting for Pendery for Judge Executive. Admittedly, I've been a supporter of Pendery since we served on Ft. Thomas City Council together. But frankly, I wouldn't have continued to Pendery if I didn't think he was doing a good job. Sell has disappointed me with some of his campaign claims. He has criticized me (without mentioning my name) for my actions on the SD1 Board. Fair criticism is... well, fair. I don't think Sell's criticism has been fair. What bothers me is that he never once has attended a SD1 Board meeting that I'm aware of to express his thoughts on the issues being discussed, yet criticized decisions on those issues. Instead of trying to help mold the right decision; he sat back and did nothing and now wants to criticize those decisions. That behavior bothers me. He criticized actions of SD1 without digging into the facts. He criticized my position on issues without first calling me and asking why I was supporting the positions I had taken (and yes Sell knows who I am and where he could contact me). He has stated that Pendery has been, in my words, a Johnny come lately, on the heroin issue. That is simply not true. Pendery and the CC fiscal court, before a lot of others finally realized the dangers of the heroin problem, worked with the Highlands Heights police department to address the spread of heroin in Campbell County years ago. The Highlands Heights police dept asked Pendery and the fiscal court to provide funding of the Highlands Heights police department's undercover buys from dealers and for other tools to stop the spread of heroin. Understandably, it was necessary at the time to keep that financial support quiet. Pendery and the fiscal court provided that funding and kept it quiet which helped make the Highland Heights police department's undercover operations successful. Pendery has been an out front leader working on attacking the heroin problem for years, taking a regional approach because heroin is a regional problem. Yet Sell would have you believe that Pendery has only recently focused on the heroin problem, and that is definitely not true. Bottom line: Sell is surprisingly (and disappointingly) throwing campaign rhetoric against the wall and hoping it will stick for some un-informed voters. Pendery on the other hand has done a great job moving Campbell County forward. Per capita income in Campbell County has caught up with Kenton County's. It's behind Boone, but I believe almost every county in Ky is behind Boone's. And we are not as behind Boone as Sell would have you believe. Pendery has indeed taken a regional approach as Sell likes to slam Pendery for doing. But that regionalistic approach has been very good for Campbell County and good for northern Kentucky as a whole. A large percentage of Campbell County residents want more cooperation between govt units, to reduce taxes and improve services and efficiency; they want a regionalistic approach on certain issues. Pendery has taken that approach when it is good for Campbell County. Sell's criticism of Pendery for failing to bring more jobs into Campbell County and his criticism of Tri Ed is in a word, bogus. There are some very good reasons that a lot of jobs are ending up in Boone County, like I-75 running through it, plenty of flat developable land, proximity to the Airport, the presence of ready to build sites and vacant available buildings meeting the needs of prospective companies wanting to move to northern Kentucky, etc. Pendery not trying to get those jobs for Campbell County is not one of those reasons. As a former Tri Ed board member, l know that for a fact. Pendery has worked tirelessly with a former President and the current President of NKU to use NKY as a catalyst to bring high paying jobs to Campbell County. Heck, I was in a series of meetings with Pendery and Votruba when Votruba first became President of NKU. Pendery's message: NKU has to do more as a job attractor the way Boone County has used the airport to bring jobs. I am convinced that it was Pendery's leadership that convinced NKU to work with Campbell County to bring jobs to Campbell County. Have I agreed with every decision Pendery has made? No I have not. But rather than focus on those few that I disagree with, I look at his entire body of work and see it very favorably. I think back to where we were before he became J/E and I see vast improvement. I see a budget surplus instead of a deficit. And I don't see that suprplus coming on the backs of the taxpayers either. I see huge improvement in per capita income. I see a county being very careful in its spending (the Campbell County fiscal court spends less per resident than any other full service govt unit in northern Kentucky which helps keep taxes low and is indicative of thoughtful, efficient spending); yet the level of services provided is, all in all, very high. I see the building moratorium around Alexandria lifted as a result in large part to Pendery pushing SD1 to get the Eastern Region Wastewater Treatment Plant built ahead of schedule. I see a county poised for huge job growth as the Health Innovation Center at NKU is built and opened, as Manhatton Harbor moves forward and as Ovations comes out of the ground as the economy improves. And I see a Judge Executive having the political courage to support much needed rate increases at SD1 and the possibility of tolls to rebuild Brent Spence. Even if I disagree with those positions, I respect an elected official willing to take stands that may cost him re-election. That type of political courage is rare and you can trust me. I've had many a elected official quietly tell me that the support SD1 rate increases because they know it is necessary and tell me that they support tolls but want come out and make that support public because it might cost them re-election. Pendery is not that kind of person. He is not a politician; he is truly an elected official. If Sell was completely honest with the voters, he'd tell them that the median income was $41,903 in Campbell County, just $320 behind Kenton, and that Campbell County has closed that cap considerably since Pendery became J/E; he tell the voters that Campbell County has fewer people living in poverty, fewer people without medical insurance, and fewer people eligible for medicaid than Kenton County; he'd tell the voters that Campbell County leads Kenton County in ACT scores for math, english, read and science; he tell the voters that Campbell County leads Kenton in the percentage of graduate and professional degrees; and he'd tell the voters that a whole lot of those accomplishments have come under Pendery's leadership. But Kevin hasn't and won't tell the voters that; rather he'll try to convince the voters that Campbell County is lagging way behind Kenton and Boone County and matters are getting worse, which simply is not true. Why would Sell do that? Because he's more interested in getting votes and if he told the whole truth, he'd know that the voters would clearly realize that the County has progressed extremely well during Pendery's tenure and Sell wouldn't have a chance of winning. Frankly, Sell's campaign of half truths; non-truths and omission of relevant facts ticks me off. In a no brainer, I'm voting for Pendery.

2. Painter vs Otto; Garrett vs Coleman. I'm voting for Painter and Garrett as County Commissioners. I know Gail Otto. Very nice lady. But I see little in her background that convinces me she will be able to help move Campbell County forward. Painter on the other hand, after getting elected in 2010 in the Tea Party revolt, has worked with and helped Pendery move Campell County forward. Same goes with Garrett. Both are strong fiscal conservatives, but have not let blind, rigid ideology affect their votes or decisions. Frankly, they have grown nicely into their positions of leadership. Neither one has put self-promotion or their desire to make headlines every day ahead of doing the right thing. I was concerned when they first got elected that they would constantly be grand standing, but they have not. Coleman, while a very good former football coach, has fallen into the same campaign trap that Sell has fallen into in my opinion. A campaign full of half truths and distortion of the truth to pander for votes. I have friends who know Coleman who say he is a good man and I accept that, but I simply do not like politicians who campaign the way Coleman has campaigned. I didn't vote for either Painter or Garrett back in 2010 out of concerns of their connections to people I consider extremist tea partiers; but I'll vote for both of them tomorrow because they have proven to me that they can be true to their strong fiscal conservative beliefs but be open minded.

3. Jansen vs Kidwell. Kidwell has done some good things as Sheriff. But his ego really concerns me and I'm greatly disappointed in some of his political actions. I'm not into good ole boy, back room politics and in my opinion, he clearly is in my opinion. He grossly distorted his law enforcement experience in an effort to combat Jansen's proven record of real law enforcement experience. Admittedly, much of the Sheriff's responsibilities is administrative; not law enforcement. But there is or can be a law enforcement aspect. Which is probably the reason Kidwell distorted his law enforcement experience and the reason that many police organizations in Campbell County have endorsed Jansen. Furthermore, having known Jansen for quite some time, I am convinced he will handle the administrative functions with ease and will run the dept in a very professional manner. I'm voting for Jansen.

4. Daley vs Guidugli. As mentioned in another thread, Daley has the experience, background, disposition and training to continue to serve as the Jailer. No disrespect to Guidugli, whom is a dyed in the wool Bluebird fan and a fun guy to talk to, but in my opinion Guidugli simply does not have the needed experience, background, disposition and training to be Jailer. Sorry Dave, but I'll vote for Daley.

5. Braun vs Bauwens. Also as mentioned in another thread, I believe that Braun has done a very good job as the PVA. As someone that deals with the PVA's office on a pretty regular basis and after talking to other attorneys and real estate folks who also deal with the PVA office, I can state that Braun has done a very good job as the PVA. I'll be voting for Braun.

6. Luersen vs Stormer. Honestly, I don't know either of these folks well. But people who I trust tell me that Luersen is the guy for the job. I wish I had been able to dig more into these two candidates. I'll probably vote for Luersen.

7. Warden vs Arthur. A somewhat, in my opinion, meaningless position in Campbell County. I'll vote for Warden for Constable.

8. Schroder vs Voelker vs Sheldon. I'm voting for Schroder for State Senator. I've gotten to know Schroder a little bit. Very bright young man. A conservative but I don't believe he is beholden to extreme party politics. That concerns me with Voelker and Sheldon. I want someone in Frankfort that is conservative but is not so rigid in his decision making that he/she can't find Democrats willing to work with him or her. Governing is not hand to hand combat. Governing is leading and leadership requires the ability to convince those that disagree to follow. I think Schroder has that ability.

9. McConnell vs Bevin. Perhaps Bevin, if elected, would become a very good U.S. Senator. I don't know. I do know that McConnell has his warts. But much like Pendery, any elected official that has been in office for a long time, is going to have his blemishes. But overall, I think McConnell has been very good for Kentucky and very good for this Country. I'm voting for McConnell.

So there are my votes folks. If I've mis-stated anything, please correct it. I don't want to my post in anyway to be misleading to anyone; certainly not anyone that is going to vote.Take my thoughts for what they are worth. If you think I have the insight to make meaningful decisions, feel free to consider my thoughts as you determine who you will vote for and encourage all your friends, family and neighbors to do so also. If you disagree with all or some of my votes, I certainly respect that disagreement. I've been wrong before (I actually voted for Jimmy Carter) and I'll be wrong again. But please take the remaining 24 hours to dig into the candidates and to vote tomorrow. Too much is riding on the future of this County and this Country to not vote. Many, many people have given their lives for you to have the freedom to vote. Show your respect and appreciation of their sacrifices by voting tomorrow.

LN

Just curious how they could tell the internal foundation floor of his house was heaving from a "drive by" assessment ? If not a drive by, then I will have to assume he had to wait for the micro-window to appeal the rate ?

 

The other part of this that smells a little funny: The assessed rate is a comparative based rate to similar homes, or a comp, correct ? Given that it is a comp and that the builder is attempting to rectify the problem, how can the overall taxable value be decreased ?

 

If the problem is corrected, then the rate would return to the initial assessment ?

 

I'm not sure I'm buying what's being sold. Unless there is external structural damage, for instance bricks with stair step cracking that is visible from the road, how did anyone know this without an appeal ?

 

The valuation process is suspect at best, in particular given the drive by valuations and changes….not sure this one passes the test without some further information.

Some fair questions/comments. But as CampbellPolitics pointed out, Ky law (specifically KRS Chapter 132) requires the County Board of Assessment Appeals to specifically review the assessment on the homes of the PVA and his deputies. So my guess, and yes it's just a guess, is that the Board of Assessment Appeals did much more than a drive by in the fulfillment of their statutory duty. If you have proof to the contrary, I love to see/read it. But until then, I have zero reason to believe that the members of the Board of Assessment Appeals violated state law and didn't properly assess Braun's property.

The members of the County Board of Assessment Appeals are not appointed by the PVA for those wondering. See http://www.lrc.ky.gov/statutes/statute.aspx?id=28330 One is appointed by the J/E, one by the Fiscal Court and one by the mayor of the city having the largest assessment in the County. So a whole lot of people would have to be corrupt (and risk major ramifications) for the County Board of Assessment Appeals to intentionally under-assess Braun's home.

If the Board of Assessment confirmed that there was indeed severe structural problems at Braun's house decreasing it's current FMV (actually the phrase in the law is "fair cash value"), then the current assessment is legally required to be reduced.

If and when the problems are fixed by the builder, then the assessment should be raised.

Like every other elected official, I'm sure Braun has his political enemies. Actually I know Braun has at least one.

The smoke or smell might be nothing more than some political enemy trying to stir up crap to get back at Braun.

Besides, if Braun and the Board of Assessment had done something as wrong as suggested in this thread, you and I both know that a certain person would have reported it to the State Auditor for investigation and it would have been front page news if the allegation was legit. Perhaps I missed it, but I have not read or seen anything indicating that the State has found that the Board of Assessment Appeals did anything wrong or that a request has even been made to the State Auditor (or anyone else) to investigate the matter.

Nothing personal and you can be as cynical as you want (actually a bit of cynicism towards elected officials is a good thing) but based on what I know, the smell you are smelling is not coming from Braun or the County Board of Assessment Appeals, but from someone upset with Braun for political reasons who is trying to stir up a stink where there really isn't one.

Just my take on the matter based on what I know at this point. Unless I get proof that Braun did something wrong between now and Tuesday, I'll be voting for Braun.

Thx Iam for the links. I haven't had to a chance to read them yet but I appreciate you providing the background information.

That is your opinion and you are talking about individuals not broad based numbers. It is statistically proven that kids in special education and with free/reduced lunch don't even participate in extracurricular activity at the same rate as other groups. Therefore 1000 of those kids are not going to produce the same number of players. This is why we use enrollment for classes in the first place. FACTS, BOOM :ohbrother:

Could you provide those statistics please and their source?

I would agree with most of your opinions on most of the candidates, but not this one. I like Daley, good guy, lots of experience in law enforcement, but a career public entity. I don't think you can hire the guy the fired from the Grant County jail, just because he was a State Trooper and Jailer, and put him as your number 1 guy in the day to day operations of the CC Jail. Kellam is a non-performer and should not be there.

 

The jail has some significant issues that are not being addressed and many people know it. The medical department is one more accidental death lawsuit away from bankrupting the county, prisoners are lost or misplaced all the time, the overhead for hiring staff is through the roof.

 

The jail is poorly run, period. With the proposed addition of the SAP program it's about to get way out of control, just that NorthKey will be able to pad their pocket more.

 

CC Jail is marginal at best. Nothing against Daley personally, great guy, not sure that Guidigli is the guy either so it's a lesser of two evils.

 

County Commissioners have done little to nothing in the county over past 4 years. Painter is non-existent. I believe it's time for a change in that area. This county needs to have business brought in and stimulate the economic growth, not be worrying about a bridge that we have no control over the tolls or no tolls.

Thanks Bird Brain for the response. Because I take voting pretty seriously and really try hard to make informed decisions, I checked into some of the negatives you posted about Daley. Here's what I learned (from a pretty knowledgeable source....and no it wasn't Daley for anyone wondering):

Daley did not make the Kellam hiring decision on his own. He was vetted pretty thoroughly and senior County personnel was involved in the hiring decision. Kellam was not fired as the Grant County jailer and there was never a finding made that he did anything wrong at the Grant County jail (but there admittedly were issues at the jail). Given the heroin problems at the CC jail, Kellam's past experience with a SAP was a positive since the county had been mulling over starting a SAP for some time prior to Kellam's hire.

The medical department at the jail is out-sourced to a private company which provides the personnel and does the work. The County actually has less liability exposure with this arrangement since the private company has liability insurance to cover its negligence. While there have been lawsuits and the private company has had to pay on a couple of them, I was told the County has not had to pay (or if it did, it was a minor amount to settle).

As for the lost or misplaced inmates, I am aware of one incident where some inmates were mistakenly left at the courthouse. The sheriff is responsible for the movement of inmates to and from the jail. That screw up is on Kidwell; not Daley. If there are other incidents you are referring to, I'd love to learn the details.

Northkey has not been in the conversation concerning the operation of the SAP. I understand the County is talking to Transitions.

As for the overhead of the jail staff being through the roof, in an effort to keep overhead down the jail is being operated with 85 employees. 100 employees are authorized. So in an effort to keep overhead as low as possible they are trying to do more with less. Compare that with Kenton County, which has roughly the same number of inmates, yet has 130 or so employees.

Bottom line: operating a jail is no easy task; particularly with all the heroin using inmates. I'd much rather have someone with significant law enforcement experience, who can understand the numerous administrative regulations affecting jails, running the place. That's Daley in my opinion. I know you said Daley was the lesser of two evils, but I'm not convinced that Daley is an evil.

As for Painter and the other County Commissioners, I'll disagree with the "done little or nothing" in the past 4 years. The County continues to progress forward. Not as fast as you and I would like, particularly when we are talking the creation of jobs. But I think if we are being reasonable in our assessment, we have to acknowledge the impact the economy has had. Ohio has done a great job creating jobs, but they have a Governor and a legislature that is very forward thinking when it comes to the attraction of jobs. The County has very limited tools in its toolbox when it comes to the creation/attraction of jobs. As a former Tri Ed Board member, I know that to be the case. They can reduce the payroll tax and that's about it. The rest of the necessary incentives come through Frankfurt. And the Ky General Assembly hasn't been real responsive to the call to reform Ky's tax structure (we will be losing some GE business to Ohio soon because of the existing tax structure). Nonetheless, I'm reasonably optimistic about job growth in Campbell County. With the economy improving, I expect to see Ovations, Manhattan Harbor and other big job producing projects in CC happening/really moving forward in the next 4 years. The Health Innovations Center (a kudo to the Ky General Assembly for its approval of the funding) will, I believe, attract high paying jobs close to NKU.

I know you didn't mention this, but others have: Industrial parks in southern CC? Nah. Not going to happen. A large percentage of the residents of southern CC don't want them, plus access stinks. Hell, a long time CC business, McD Concrete, is leaving CC for Boone County I believe because of the lost time and cost of getting to their facility down on 27. As I understand it, the owner of McD did a study conducted and determined that the cost of the lost time getting to and from their facility was a lot more than the cost of relocating to a location much closer to the interstate. Job creation will occur in the northern part of the County near NKU and along the river. Pendery has been pushing those type of projects hard for quite some time.

Peace.

Did you had any thing to your deer meat.

I always doctor them up with whatever I have handy. This time I added a little hamburger, as well as Worchestershire sause, some onion soup mix, a dash or two of A-1; dried thyme (or was it rosemary?), garlic powder, salt and pepper. The charcoal still had some apple chips left over from the brisket, so the burgers had a little smoke apple taste to them. Henry won't let me cook anything more complicated than microwaved coffee at the house, so when I get to cook down at the farm, I like to have fun cooking. I learned my lesson last year when I cooked a fancy menu for about 25 folks. Lordy, that was work. This year I kept it much simpler.

Hope I didn't offend Joker with my comment about how simple it was to smoke a brisket after he'd posted something to the effect that it can be difficult. But it was pretty simple. I may have just got lucky with my first attempt.