THE SHERIFF

Maybe he has figured out that the job is not as hard as he thought.

You said you don't believe chemical weapons were removed and asked for proof. I provided proof.

 

We don't know where the weapons used last week came from - hidden from inspectors or newly manufactured?

President Bush was raked over the coals because the inspectors turned up no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and rightfully so. Syria has used chemical weapons less than 3 months from the end of Pres. Obama's final day on the job.

The former president gets no free pass here.

Lavar just making sure he gets his cut.

Is this ship still steaming towards our destroyers?

So if you are using this logic to justify Trump's hypocrisy, couldn't someone then say the reason Obama didn't strike Syria is because of intel he had that Trump didn't?

Apparently not, Pres. Obama has stated that he made a mistake with Syria.

Oh, I get that. I was trying to explain some of that stuff to folks at the bar the other night when the airstrikes hit about how many moving parts were involved in terms of who is allied with whom and who would be upset with us. I felt like a global politics expert for a time until I realized I was explaining this stuff to very drunk people who probably never pick up a newspaper. :lol2:

Buzzkill.

If our airstrikes were a little less "surgical" we could get something done. But I know why we take that route also.

Yeah, it sure looks like shutting down the airbase was not the objective. With our capabilities that would've been child's play. Why? We will probably never know.

My concern is there are many moving parts in Syria and we may or may not fully understand the consequences of our actions.

Was it though? I read this morning they are back using the airbase we allegedly destroyed.

I believe there is a reason the airbase is still operational. Basically we are all ignorant regarding the situation in Syria. Very limited information to us simpletons. This seems to be a complicated issue. We need to proceed with caution. We're dealing with a number of bad actors at once. Assad and ISIS among others. Throw in Putin and his band of merry men and you have a powder keg. I've said before, destabilizing a country like this can have a domino effect, this is the only reason Assad is allowed to maintain power.

Yeah, I actually just read an article that makes this point so I am officially rescinding the credit I gave him and will continue to wait and see if he can earn my credit.

Well the president is a double agent working for Russia and is complicit in the chemical attacks so don't expect to much.

Assad and the Syrian government have an agreement with the US that forbids them from possessing chemical weapons. They not only broke that agreement but went a step further and murdered innocents. Pres. Trump has an obligation to react to this situation.

The US response has been widely accepted as a success. I totally agree.

Any update on this ship?

Alford's life will be very difficult next year dealing with Ball when Ball's middle son is not starting and spending a lot of time on the bench.

Yep looks like Middle Ball got the same defensive foot speed gene that Lonzo got.

I thought Trump was moved to action against Assad because he was moved by all of the horrible pictures he was shown of the innocent children that were killed and injured in the most recent chemical attacks. And as a result of his emotions he attacked Syria, albeit it was an empty attack, but an attack nonetheless.

 

 

I've said it multiple times that I wish Obama had ignored congress and attacked Syria like Trump did. I definitely would have been behind it then like I am now. I'm just not buying this whole "Obama was weak" argument from a bunch of people who never liked anything the man did and I'm no buying that Trump sent a message to Assad when Assad and Russia are clearly sending a message back to us. I'm ready to see Trump do what the other big options on the table were. This attack on Syria was the small option. Do the big one. Let's show these folks who we are and what we do. I'd don't like beating around the bush. I like burning it down and then shooting it and then burning it again.

I understand your frustration with the comments about Pres. Obama. I don't think he is a weak person, I applaud him for even attempting to deal with Assad the way he did. Attacking another country and sending young troops to die is beyond my comprehension. The decisions required of the United States president is above the pay grade of guys like me. It's easy to say I'd do this and I'd do that but in reality none of us know how we would respond in decisions of life and death.

I have the utmost respect for the responsibility of the person carrying the weight of the presidency on their shoulders. That includes every president that has existed in my lifetime. I may disagree with decisions they make or the way they act,but I would never disrespect the person or office. That includes Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

I'd have nuked Syria without congress authorization in 2013 but I wasn't the POTUS.

 

Again, how is Syria different now than in 2013 when congress wouldn't authorize an attack on Assad?

Syria is not different now than 2013. That is the problem, Pres. Obama was very patient with the Assad regime. Donald Trump was not president in 2013, and obviously his patience has worn thin.

Next time I hope we send a better message.

I hope there's not a next time. But if there is, I hope the next time it's not a message.

How is Syria different now than what it was 4 years ago?

Assad has not responded to verbal warnings or even held to agreements with the US.

At what point would you draw the line?

The threat of nuclear warfare limits the options with Russia. US military force could have devastating results.

President Obama committed a cardinal sin for a sitting American president. He made an idle threat. Assad was told that he would be held accountable, that never happened.

America has been accepting refugees from Syria for many years now. That has not stopped the atrocities. At some point action had to be taken. Murdering innocents with chemical weapons should be dealt with swiftly and firmly.

So has Russia done anything or are they just going on a boat ride?

Russia has done nothing. Russia will do nothing. Destabilizing a country is risky business. Events have a chain reaction effect. That's why Assad is still in power. At this point he is the lesser evil.

He can but he doesn't care because it's exactly what he wants. People talking about him means he's relevant and that's what he wants to get his name and brand out there

Or he's a buffoon who happens to have a kid that is a good basketball player. Time will tell.

This guy is a complete buffoon. I guess he can't see that people are laughing at him, not with him.

Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat.

If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin.

So if Russia is basically going to help Syria rebuild what we just destroyed, what does that mean exactly?

 

This is a question for anybody, not just UKMF.

It means the same as you being forced to punch somebody in the mouth and his friend saying, well I'm gonna buy him a face mask.

I've read through all this and I'll admit, I am far from the expert, but do we really think these bombings are going to have any affect on what Assad does or doesn't do? Madmen tyrants seems like they'll keep being madmen tyrants until their dead.

This operation was meant for Putin as much as Assad. Putin has influence on Assad, I'm guessing he'll be using it.

Russia has strong military and energy interests is keeping Assad in power. Not necessarily that different from our support of Saddam Hussein all those years.

Agreed. The US knows this. The ball is now in Assad's court. We'll see how he responds.