InItToWinIt

I'd like to see a list of most dominant NCAA programs that includes D1, D2, and D3.

So this means Cats should have won on 2/20 against Texas A&M, which means that Cats won the conference regular season title and conference tournament, which means they should have been ranked higher than a 4 seed and Texas A&M should have been lower than a 3 seed.

IF only.

Man, must be global warming.

That's awesome. Just curious, how many professional basketball players have come out of Kentucky/NKY in particular in the last 10 years.

All Simmons did is make an example for the upcoming top recruits.

Now they will pour into strong programs like UK, Duke, Kansas, etc.

No more good players will go to average teams IMO.

Why would CNN give a platform and an interview to the man who just got stopped by secret service rushing the stage at a Donald Trump rally.

 

They allowed him to glorify his actions and justify them. Very irresponsible that could lead to a future incident.

 

For all we know this man could of wanted to kill a man with the potential to be the next sitting president.

 

Disgusting.

Answer to the bolded (and really any question about CNN): Money, money, money, mooooney.

It sells.

Despite the loss, we can conclude that Cincinnati Withrow's Devin Williams is a MAN.

Seems to be more of a bench celebration rather than on court IMO. That's why not as many are upset.

From the article:

4. They demand the creation and implementation of a 15 persxn panel (yes spelled persxn, it is considered more PC because does not derive from the word ‘son’) to monitor documents and archive all racist, anti-black, transphobic, cissexist, misogynist, ablest, homophobic, islamophobic, xenophobic, anti-semetic or otherwise oppressive behavior on campus. The committee will be accountable to the students “rather than the university.”

"persxn." Enough said.

After living in Ohio for 1.5 years now, I can say that this is no surprise. Ohio State football is like a religion. It's called the Buckeye state and not the Browns' state, after all.

I get why Rubio is endorsing Kasich, but he has to realize that if Trump doesn't win the GOP nomination it'll be a cakewalk to the oval office for Hillary or Bernie.

Despite that, I'm eager for Tuesday to play out. Big test.

I promise that I'm not looking for an anti-religion religion to join, but I must say that it is refreshing to be able to identify with others here who are on similar pages. As I'm sure that some of you have experienced, it's not everyday that you run into very many folks who even come anywhere near understanding where you are coming from.

 

Certainly none of you, or myself have the answer to the ultimate truth, but we have at least allowed ourselves to admit this, and understand that we are limited in possibly knowing, or what we can possibly know.

 

It would appear that throughout time the majority of humanity hasn't been satisfied with this realization, or even allowed themselves to realize it, therefore man-made concepts have been created to pacify those not willing to accept these limitations, and from that world religions have evolved, and have been passed down from generation to generation giving the false notion that their longevity is any proof of anything other than the power of human conditioning, and human behavior.

 

I certainly get wanting to know, but making stuff up instead of facing reality is not something that ever sat well with me.

 

It doesn't sit well with me either that these various world religions have been for centuries the root of conflict all the while claiming to be the truth, and guilting and forcing its followers to believe, or face eternal damnation.

 

It's not a mission of mine to prohibit others from living in fantasy, but it's important to me that they, no matter how many of them that there are, keep their fantasies in perspective and don't infringe on my rights to believe, or not believe however I believe.

 

As InItToWinIt has displayed it can be a shock to the system of the general public of religious believers that anyone would dare question religion or speak out against it negatively.

 

Because he is a believer, he takes it personally that others find it to be delusional.

He equates us referring to religion as delusional as us saying that he is delusional when no one directed that specific dialogue at him personally.

 

From where he sits, I can see where that might be hard to swallow, but he also might want to keep in perspective that the thing that we don't believe in that he does, is something that he can't prove, so though it's fine for him to believe it, and if if works for his life all the better, but it's a hard sale to plead for others to stop voicing their realist views so that his religious toes don't get stepped on.

 

There's really no other way around voicing what we feel without voicing what we feel.

 

Though he might not see it as such because he shares beliefs with millions, but him voicing his religious views might be a bit insulting to intelligent thinking people who have analyzed religion to death, and is why many of us have come to the realization that it has been generally for centuries a controlling human institution playing with the masses emotions and limitations of what they can truly know by saying "look no further, we have all the answers right here and with it the rules you are obligated to live by or else".

 

He's apart of a large portion of society that believes just as he does, so we must seem entirely bold and foreign to actually stand up and say that we have had enough of the bull crap in our lives, and that in our quest for knowledge we had to sort out reality from fantasy, and to peel away the layers of misguided conditioning that we had been subjected to much of our childhood in order for us to avoid living as delusional adults.

 

Because we are a minority who have been willing to do this doesn't make us any less valid in our conclusions.

 

The majority of the world would likely think that we are out of our minds, but I would venture to say that many of you have at times thought this exact thing of the majority of the world.

 

Anyhow the bottom line to what I initially wanted to say is that it's refreshing to know that I'm not alone in my way of thinking and that it's cool to know that there are a least a few people here and there that can relate.

 

It's suffocating enough to know that in the big picture I am a minority in thought, so it's good to know that there are others who are capable of thinking outside of the box. It's starting to sound a bit dated to say "thinking outside of the box" but somehow it still fits.

Please look at the bolded. In one instance, you say that you are calling the religion delusional and not the followers, yet you go on to say the believers are "delusional adults" and non-believers are "intelligent thinking people." You say that you've had enough of the bull crap, and that's not supposed to be insulting?

I'm supposed to believe that its not a shot at me? Its not a shot at the people like me? Its not a shot at what I truly feel in my heart and soul is the right thing and I consider the greatest part of my life?

I'm not even trying to convert you or change your way of thinking at this point, but I do ask that you do use basic respect when speaking about your disagreements with theism.

Every person on earth has a different brain and has had different experiences and different upbringings - so different views are okay. Let's not make Theists less valid because they are the majority, either.

Now, I want to be clear - the following is not how I feel. It is completely hypothetical. How would you feel if I called homosexual adults delusional? How would you feel if I said you voicing your homosexual feelings is insulting to straight people because there's no proof that its a natural biological function and I analyzed the hell out of it?

My point is, theism, Christianity in particular, is something that is in my heart and I have always felt there, just like your sexuality, which is absolutely fine. I know its not an apples to apples comparison, but if somebody truly believes in Christianity,it has to be the thing closest to his/her heart.

You don't have to accept that, but I please ask that you put yourself in my shoes before making fun of what is literally (in my view) the most important, awesome, biggest, greatest thing ever to exist in the history of the universe.

UK missed out on him.

Now THAT is funny. :laugh:

Congrats to Big Tony. His game is made for the college level.

Call atheism "nonsensical, delusional, or silly" and I wouldn't be offended or upset in the least. I'm secure in what I believe and I wouldn't be offended any by the above descriptions of agnosticism. I probably would just skip over something that I thought might offend me.

I will not call your beliefs that, because I don't necessarily believe atheism/agnosticism is nonsensical or delusional. I recognize that not everyone on earth was raised how I was, not everyone on earth has had the type of religious/secular exposure that I have had, and not everyone on earth has to believe what I believe.

Now, for those that do believe something different than I, I don't make fun of them. I don't patronize what they fight for, and I don't make a big joke out of it. I respect other people despite our differences.

Two issues here:

 

One: whether this is a violation of that rule quoted. I don't think so, but conceivably it could be if one were to apply that rule in a certain way. However, if one were to apply that rule that way, then that rule would be more honored in it's breach in the political/controversial forums. I think saying that in the football forum would be wrong, but not a violation in forums designed to have contentious discussions.

 

Two: the issues raised by @InItToWinIt , which doesn't call for a violation of the rule, but focuses on the alleged insulting way. I will keep this short, but it is hard to discuss this without ruffling feathers. For example, many atheists' journey includes a time where they read the stories about god, and take a measure of god's character. If we can't mention our thoughts about this, then no need to have a discussion board at all, but admittedly doing so has the tendency to be offensive to some. If you love god, walk with him every day, etc etc, I can see how you might not want to hear a negative assessment about god. Not sure there is a way around that. I think it is an important right to preserve, the ability to speak freely, and I defend SF's right to do so, and yours, and I think this is an important conversation to have. Important enough that the price, which may be unavoidable, is worth it.

Like I said in my original post, I have no problem with a forum about an atheists/agnostics journey. I would actually be fascinated to learn about perspectives 180 degrees from mine.

But did you read the bolded portions of my quote in post #3? "Nonsensical, magic, superstition, delusional" - these are insults. Let's keep this discussion open while showing basic respect, common courtesy, and tolerance towards other people's beliefs. Like I said, this is a fascinating subject. Let's keep it relevant and not shame others who believe differently.

Lastly, my apologies for breaking the tattle tale rule.

Perhaps I made this up, but I feel I can accurately comment on this since I'm in the youngest 1% of this site .

As people tend to get older, do they not begin to just say how they feel? I've watched my grandparents lose their filter as they age[d], as well as some basketball coaches who are 60+ (not that that is considered old! ). I think Bernie interrupting HRC with this comment could just be his age showing.

Just a thought.

Science Friction, if you want to start a thread asking about why/how some atheists and agnostics came to be that way, then go ahead and do that. In fact, a civil, adult, conversation like that would be something very interesting to me and I would look forward to adding to the discussion.

However, you have continually shown a trend of intolerance toward theists and you consistently mock, belittle, patronize, and frankly make light of a movement that 1000's of noble people have DIED for throughout history. You have every right in America and in the world to post whatever you want and word it however you feel. But I must ask, why? Please, I beg you, tell me: what does using the below bolded quotations do for you?

I was reading a post by MayfieldFan the other day and his story kinda reminded me of mine. I wasn't a deacon in the church like him but I grew up in the church(Southern Baptist), was there Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night(training union and prayer meeting), and most any other time the doors were open. I even helped him ring the big church bell on Sunday mornings. A lot of good memories.We lived right next to the church and my grandfather was the church's caretaker(custodian). From the time I was tiny, attending church was just the thing that good little boys and girls do. Didn't really give it any other thought.

 

Then I grew up. I started to think about the things I had been told and the ideas that had been put into my head from childhood. None of what I was told all those years seemed to add up to what my rational, adult mind observed and processed. I do not believe that my elders were intentionally trying to deceive me like they did with Santa Claus. I just believe their elders brainwashed them with the same nonsensical fables that the elders before them passed along as truth.

 

One thing that I have noticed with a lot of agnostics and atheists is that many of them at a previous time in their lives were faithful church attendees, Sunday School teachers, pastors and deacons. I know several non-believers myself who were former SS teachers or preachers. These are all people who now claim that they either thought it was real at the time or had doubts and just went a long with the program but realize it now for what it is - myth, superstition, and scare tactics - none of it based on one scintilla of real evidence.

 

Speaking just for me, myth and superstition gave way to science and rational thinking as I grew older and was freed from the bondage of religious thought. I appreciated the description that one of our members used to describe himself the other day- " spiritual agnostic." I do believe a person can be spiritual and feel a oneness with the Universe without being bound to the utter silliness of man's religions. Humans long to feel significant in the Universe and so over thousands and thousands of years they've created one silly God after another to make themselves feel more important than they really are.

 

To quote Sagan: "For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." Religion is all about delusion and it's a dangerous delusion. Religion inhibits rational thought. I reached a point in my life where persisting in a belief in something just to feel comforted and reassured was no longer comforting or reassuring. I needed to grasp the Universe as it really is in order to know who I really am and what I want in my life. Magic and superstition no longer sufficed. Science opened the door to a whole new evidence-based reality.

 

I am really interested in why some of our atheists and agnostics got to the point they are now, believing as you do. Did you come from a religious background? Why did you walk away from the God delusion?

Thanks.

And as you continue to bash Christianity and those who believe in it, please remember that every challenge my faith is faced with merely strengthens it every time. And using terms like "brainwashed" and "delusion" is implying that me and every single Christian in the world has not questioned our faith at one time or another. Its insulting and quite frankly demeaning. I am an adult, who rationally has read, researched, and consulted people smarter than I about matters of faith I am not sure about. So was I was just brainwashed as a child and am I incapable of thinking on my own?

Have a good night.

It's not hard to check. I did see one player tweeting at Ben Weyer. Kid is a reserve on the team. Poked the bear.

That was a fake account set up by one of his classmates. All just joking around.

2 teams with talented rosters, phenomenal coaching staffs, incredible wills to win, passion, fire, energy, determination, and heart.

That is who the game will be decided by. Not the referees or some pregame handshake.

Man, I feel absolutely awful for Zeke and his family. Prayers that this is the last negative news we hear.

Crazy game. I guess the law of averages finally got to take a jab at the Warriors. They were 4/30 from 3 if I remember correctly.

The coolest part to me is how I never knew how much of a role gravity plays into our biology.

"The fluids in your body shift due to zero gravity."

"The zero-G environment can also cause increased risk of kidney stones, hip and spine troubles, and slower healing times."

Just seems to make our existence less and less of a coincidence IMO.

Congrats to HC on a great, great season. They won some games they were not expected to and have shown tremendous improvement as a program over the last few years.

Today, they were simply out sized IMO. Never were really able to establish any inside presence, forcing them to live or die by the 3 (note: this could have been the case all year, today was my first day seeing them play)

I'm asking because I don't know... How good is Brad Calipari?

I played against him in AAU ball. He could be a good division III player at best. But if I were in his situation, I'd probably make the same decision for a variety of reasons. Best of luck to Brad.

I loved it. I listen to Future's song Last Breath (from the movie, with the Rocky theme incorporated) probably every day.