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Class A State Top 12 Girls Shot Put

Class A State Top 12 Boys Shot Put

10 hours ago, BubbyKY said:

Bishop Brossart

Devon McCormick

Cody Orth

Wow, McCormick will have a long day, he is competing in the Shot Put and Discus today in the 1A State Track Meet.

1 hour ago, rjs4470 said:

And region baseball tourneys, although they are over now. Bottom line is while this is a fun game, and great for the participants (my son was a scholarship winner his senior year), there is no real benefit to any top player who has a major college offer, and most who do now opt out. For those who do decide to play, it’s a nice capstone to their career.

It is a fun game for sure, my oldest played in it a few years back and it was a good experience to close out his high school years.

1 hour ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Here's a picture from last night's practice. Joe Danneman stopped in. I spotted Cov Cath's Trey Gronotte in the picture...I guess he still has a little bit of time before he reports to West Point.

With the state track meets this week as well, I would assume some athletes opted out for that.

5 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Finding the rosters for this game every year is more challenging than finding the end of the rainbow.

I am wondering at what point do they actually have all the athletes who have committed to playing, maybe that is why it is so hard to find. Some that should play have other commitments while others have no desire. I wonder how close to the game they actually know who will play.

2 hours ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

They're usually a little late getting rosters out. Not sure why that's the case, but it generally is.

Ryle and Simon Kenton both listed their participants for this year on Twitter:

Ryle
Greyson Barber
Matthias Cusick
Bradyn Lyons
Jackson McGinnis
Will Watkin
Kyle Yarger

Simon Kenton
Dakota Brooksbank
Jake Huff
Ian Hughes
Trey Little

I tried doing a google search myself and came up with nothing. If I see something, I will post it. 

What is parent involvement like at Newport versus Highlands? 

REGION 5 has a great group of throwers this year. Should have 3 competing in shot put and 5 competing in discus on the boys side and probably the one of the most impressive girls ever to throw in NKY.

13 minutes ago, brooksville said:

Some do not have facilities or resources to accommodate more students than what they already have.

I would assume this to be a major factor in most districts. It may be more of a disadvantage to the students if the class sizes are affected. I really only see an academic benefit for younger students myself.

Wow, are all those school districts even going to make any decision?

On 5/21/2021 at 3:29 PM, DanvilleFan said:

It's interesting to see what systems are allowing for this and which systems are not.  I thought there'd be greater demand at the elementary level, but that's not what I'm seeing locally.  Danville had more push to redo the high school year (17) than the elementary (9).

I would think elementary and middle school with the development of learning. 

21 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Looking to the far right in the Boone County photo, there is a new building going up. What is that building? Possibly a new athletic training building?

@theguru

I believe that is a new auditorium. I know they were going to do several building upgrades.

Hopefully they upgrade bathroom and locker room facilities at Ryle, Boone County and Conner as well.

On 5/23/2021 at 1:56 AM, Runcible Owl said:

Finishing up at Cooper. Maroon and gold looks great on the field.

It still blows my mind that they didn't put turf down when they built Cooper in the first place.

On 5/20/2021 at 9:11 AM, Tigerpride94 said:

Current top 10 throwers based on best throw this year.

Malachi Lawrence threw 58' on Friday and Jackson Smallwood from Grant County threw 51' on Saturday changing this list up a little. 

The more I am reading on the NCAA and this issue, I would think it is a bad deal to actually take the do-over year. 

35 minutes ago, FB Head said:

Great opportunity for this athlete to finish his education.  For this reason, I am 100% in favor. Everything else, not so much.

I also agree that the NCAA has created a mess.  How can it allow college athletes to take advantage of the decision and limiting/punishing high school kids to do the same. I can be certain that if the NCAA ruled not to put in place this "covid redo rule", not a single state would consider also doing it. 

 

Especially when a majority of college athletes still had a season.

51 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Was there any indication as to how the NCAA was going to view these situations prior to this release? Thinking specifically about Hergott from Beechwood, did they make the decision to return too soon?

I would say in most cases it would be best to move on, do the work where you get the offer to at least be on a roster and hope that leads to something more. PWOs, D2, D3, NAIA and JUCO kids transfer into D1 programs all the time. If you are meant to be there you will get there.

3 hours ago, Runcible Owl said:

Thanks, that's an excellent list.

Haven't seen the following, but based on multiple performances, I'd add:

3A: Ben Fiser and Chase Thompson - Marshall Co.; Leandre Bolen - McCracken Co.; Seth Cartwright - Male.

2A: Ethan Rice - Marion Co.; Chase Snyder - Boyd Co.; Andrew Hardwick - Boyle Co ('23); Hunter Blevins - Harlan Co.; Trenton Hannah - Greenup Co.

1A: Sebastian Lawrence - Murray; Lucas Wunsch - Walden; Devin Lee - Murray; Hunter Correll - Raceland; Trevon Ramey - Lloyd; Ethan Adams - Nicholas Co.

I have seen Hardwick and Cartwright and simply forgot to add them.

I really like Hardwick, he has a lot of energy and he may turn out to be the next KY great. He is only a sophomore so there is a lot of potential there.

52 minutes ago, Juggman said:

I feel like it pretty plainly states if you reclassify, your gonna be ineligible at the NCAA level. 

Kind of does, doesn't it. The extra year the NCAA gave is really hurting these younger kids.

37 minutes ago, Runcible Owl said:

You seem to know your way around "the weights." Who do you like, and why?

I can only speak of who I have seen, mostly in NKY and Louisville.

These are probably the best I have seen, at least from KY.

Harrison Pawsat - Highlands 

Luke Stegman - CovCath

Wilson Pendleton - Ryle 

Jackson Smallwood - Grant County 

Malachi Lawrence - Dupont Manual

Alexander Cole - Eastern

Emmanuel Lopez - Fern Creek

2 hours ago, colonel-fan said:

So how would a freshman meet the minimum requirements if they are repeating their freshman year? Or am I misunderstanding the guidelines?

I wouldn't even consider it if I was a high school under classman. If you have higher aspirations, do the work and hope it pans out.

1 hour ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

An Important Message for Prospective NCAA Student-Athletes from Kentucky

Students and Counselors,

As you may have seen in the news, Kentucky recently enacted a law allowing for Kentucky K-12 students to enroll in a supplemental year of schooling to retake or supplement courses taken during the 2020-21 academic year as a result of the prolonged remote instruction and barriers created by the COVID-19 pandemic. There are some important considerations related to NCAA initial eligibility for high school students evaluating this option. Additional information regarding the potential impact on NCAA certification is provided below.

• For questions about your specific situation, please work directly with your high school counselor, the athletics compliance office at the NCAA school you plan to attend and/or the NCAA customer service center (877-262-1492). 

Academic Eligibility

NCAA Division I requirements:

• 16 core-course units, to be completed within four years/eight semesters from the initial start of year 9.

• Core-course 10/7 progression requirement: 10 of the 16 required core-course units (including seven units in English, math or science) must be completed before starting the seventh semester.

• On-time graduates may also complete one additional core unit within a year after graduation and before initial full-time enrollment.

• For students initially enrolling full time in college during the 2021-22 or 2022-23 academic years, additional flexibility has been provided due to COVID-19.

The impact of repeating a year is highly variable depending on a student's academic class and record; however, there could be a detrimental effect on a student's ability to meet Division I core-course requirements in some circumstances. Specifically, students in the freshman or sophomore classes during 2020-21 should ensure that they have a plan to meet the Division I requirement of completing 10 core-course units before starting the seventh semester.

• Academic eligibility in NCAA Division II or III should not be impacted.

Amateurism Certification

Generally, NCAA legislation permits students to continue participating in their sport one year after their expected high school graduation date (based on four years/eight semesters after the initial start of year 9) without impacting their NCAA eligibility.

• The only shorter grace period is Division I men's and women's tennis, which permits participation for six months after the expected graduation date.

As a result, if students repeat a year of high school, they should be mindful of the potential impact on their seasons of eligibility. Participating in their sport beyond the grace period could result in losing a season(s) of eligibility. Click here for additional information regarding these rules.
 
Impact of a Supplemental Year

In short, we strongly advise students and families considering this path to work with their high school counselor, the athletics compliance office at the NCAA school they would like to attend and the NCAA customer service center to ensure they have the best information available as they make decisions regarding their academic future. The following information provides key points student-athletes and their families need to consider when evaluation a supplemental year.

Seniors (expected graduation 2021/actual graduation 2022): Impact of Supplemental Year 

Competition in your sport beyond the legislated grace period may impact your NCAA eligibility.

Makes you wonder if it is really worth taking the supplemental year in the long run.

Who are the contenders in all 3 classes in Shot Put and Discus this year?