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I'd have to say that with Couch's high school career, a lot of it came down to him being a big fish...a really, really talented big fish, in an unfortunately small pond. Not to speak poorly of Leslie County, because I've got a lot of respect for the showings they have made in years past with relatively limited funding, and a very spread out demographic, but I just don't think Couch had the team to back him up when it got down to the nitty gritty.

We have a trainer that shows up on one afternoon a week after school. Trainers are not at practices for the sports teams. Coaches handle all of those duties of dealing with injuries, taping, handling players, rehabbing in most rural counties.

Gotcha gotcha.

Are athletic trainers part of all the Kentucky public school budgets then, or is that just a Jefferson County Public deal?

Best as a Spectator: Watching Couch & Leslie Co. Beat Highlands @ Tates Creek.

 

My best as a spectator was watching Highlands Beat the pants off of Tim Couch and Leslie Co at Highlands!!!! I think that was the first team to stop him in his tracks.... RED DOG DEFENSE!!!!! :taz:

 

Worst as a Spectator: The ending of the 95 season... and watching Mason break his arm twice against the same team.

Was that the '93 or '94 season? Because Cov Cath schooled them pretty good in the '94 state tourney (Cov Cath went on to win that year). I think they held them to 1 tuddy, and intercepted Couch 4 times in 1 game at Leslie Co.:ylsuper:

So I got into work this morning and found out I'm going to be leaving to go out of town this evening. (Yay for me :puke:) So it looks like I'm going to be missing out on the scrimmage tonight among other things.

That means I'm gonna be depending on you folks to give me the short and skinny on how things go...

Has Simpson had any official offers as of yet?

He could be talking about that team that starts with an "H" and ends with "olmes".

Well played.

I know I'll be there...at the scrimmage, that is.

Is the NKY hyperbole getting a little out of control?

You wouldn't be talking about the fans of a certain team that starts with an "H" and ends with "ighlands" would you?

Those athletic physicals are supposed to be points in the process where the doctors approve or disapprove of little Johnny's participation. That's when a licensed professional has the opportunity to say that participating in ______ sport would be hazardous to Johnny's health...

I agree that doctors need to be held responsible for the approval they are are or aren't giving for players in their physicals. I still think there is also a lot of that responsibility that also falls on the coaches and the staff, though.

I know that most teams in the Northern Kentucky area have a "training staff" that includes full-time student athletic trainers, as well as a licensed athletic trainer(s) and/or doctor(s) who show up at practice 2 and 3 times a week and check on everyone. I think the KHSAA should certainly be requiring at least the coaching staff and professional training staff to be very well versed in recognizing when their practice regimens are potentially endangering individual players' health. Heck, set up a training seminar and require them to attend. Makes sense to me.

Still, by and large, the coaches seem to know when enough is enough as far as pushing their players, and they also know when they've got a player who's just out of shape and lagging. There are times when you've got a player who's just tired, and he may be dragging behind on all of the wind sprints, but that doesn't mean you need to let him sit and rest - that's conditioning for the 4th quarter. At the same time, they should be able to (and usually are able to) recognize when a player is in distress or is having actual problems. Even then, there are going to be accidents, but they need to be doing anything and everything in their power to prevent anything bad from happening.

7 on 7's are like pre-season football in the NFL, if that. Practice against guys in different jerseys.

Very true VOR. I think more than anything, the idea is to run your plays against some guys who can give you a different look than you're used to. They're also the time in place to experiment with different combinations of players in different positions. It's more for the sake of experimentation and run-throughs in a gametime situation.

I hear that! I would question the order they have these schools in however. IMO, Trinity & Highlands both take Moeller. :confused:

I honestly don't know that much about Trinity's program lately, so I can't say a whole lot about that, but I would say (and it has nothing to do with my Cov Cath background) that Moeller would have the edge on Highlands. I think Highlands has some phenomenal talent and speed, and they have some size, but Moeller is overflowing with talent, size, depth, and a fair amount of speed. That being said, I wouldn't ever count Highlands out - particlularly as this is just a preseason ranking.

Rivals.com National Rankings

#4) Elder - Cincinnati, OH

#13) Colerain - Cincinnati, OH

#37) Glenville - Cleveland, OH

#39) St. Xavier - Lousiville, KY

#50) Moeller - Cincinnati, OH

#62) St. Ignatius - Cleveland, OH

#68) Trinity - Louisville, KY

#76) Highlands - Fort Thomas, KY

I wouldn't say that the days of the high school powerhouse football teams from Texas, California and Florida are numbered by any means, but it's sure good to see so many top-ranked teams coming from Kentucky and Ohio.

Bell County v. Alcoa, TN

Cov Cath v. Ryle

Highlands v. Dupont Manual

Hopkinsville v. Paducah-Tilghman

Johnson Central v. Boyle County

New Cath v. Dixie Heights

Whitley County v. Lex Cath

Todd Etler, Cov Cath '92, RH pitcher, drafted by the Reds in the 3rd round, never made it above AAA. He's a minor league pitching coach now.

Luke Maile, Cov Cath '09, catcher, drafted by the Bo Sox, still pursuing college with full ride for baseball at Kentucky.

In 87 we had CovCath down 20-7 in Park Hills with a little more than 7 min to go in the game and lost in the last min on a 2 point conversion. I think this game was one of last 5 p.m. games ever played at CovCath. Or at least it should of been the last game played at that time. I will say that ever since that game, CovCath went on a pretty impressive 2-3 year run.

I believe it was the last 5pm game played at Cov Cath after the second week of the season. That excepts the night game that they played against Beechwood either last year or the year before. They rented lights...terrible idea. The lights weren't high enough or strong enough, and every time the ball went in the air, it completely disappeared once it got above 10 feet up. Oh well...learn from your mistakes.

Sorry, but that hypothetical is just ridiculously over the top.

No kidding.

Not a clue on what the scenario has to do with the price of tea in China.

 

The services are there for them to use. If they choose to opt out of that unless we go to a voucher system, there should not be any funds to follow them.

 

There should be no difference between a special ed child or a regular child or a gifted child.

 

If the funds follow one they should follow all.

 

That is why I am for a voucher system but presently we don't have that.

The scenario has nothing to do with the price of tea in China...what it does have to do with is the idea that someone is paying for (might I also add, they're being required to pay for) a service. Whether or not they are always making use of that service is neither here nor there, but when they request the assistance of that service, be it insurance or education funding, they should be entitled to the benefits of that service, as they've been paying for it all along.

And...let me try to speak to a couple of points that I would anticipate you may try to make:

1) "Well, since they're required to pay into public education funding, then they should make use of the public schools instead of complaining."

Most people who choose to send their children to private schools do it for one, or both of two general reasons. Either they believe that their children's education should be built around and should teach the precepts of their religion, or they believe that private school education, in general, will provide their children with a higher quality of education. For some people, these ideas are of more value than the money saved by using public schools.

2) The voucher system is not going to make much, if any change in the "recruiting" problems that so many people see existing. It will allow people to spend their voucher at virtually whichever school they see fit, and thus, they will go where "the grass is greener".

If someone wants to go be a good wrestler in high school, then they're most likely to go to a school with a successful wrestling program. Thus, the schools with the most successful wresting programs will appeal to those students, and will likely build up a large faction of students who excel in wrestling. Then, the school down the road with the struggling wrestling program is going to complain that the other school is "recruiting".

Vouchers may make people happy that they get to are spend their alotted funding at whichever schools they please, but, the "recruiting" complaints are not going to be curbed.

Played for both, coached against both. They are both out of the same mold when it comes to teaching baseball fundamentals, pitching, hard work, hustle, demanding respect for the team and the game, and winning. The obvious difference is personality - Coach M is not afraid to get fired up and Krumps just grunts his orders. Krumps' time and work on the field is second to none, Coach M's time and dedication to scouting/studying the opponent is also second to none. You either love them or hate them, but both have my respect. :notworthy: You do have to respect their success, but I give Krumps the slight edge especially if you look the coaching tree that he has built - Wilhoit, Roesel, Beiger, Meier, Ecks (before he came back), etc. (did I miss any Old Guy) - all went on to build winning programs at schools in NKY.

Arlo...at Conner.

No rebuttal???

That is correct. Lots of 1st year starters on that team that started out 1-4, and ended up running the table the rest of the year and became champs.

Yeah, I remember that had something about that engraved on the state rings.

Local schools receive their money through ADA funds that is based on AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE. If they kid is not attending the local school, the local district is NOT receiving the funds for them. No clue where the funds are going but it is not to the local schools.

Even if that is the case, the fact remains that parents who ask for state financial assistance for special needs students in private schools are already paying into the states education funding. Why is it so appalling to you that they ask for assistance from the education coffers when they've been contributing to them all along?

Here's a scenario for you:

You're a relatively wealthy individual - let's say, 45 years old. You're a healthy person, and you have a good job with a decent health insurance policy, although when it comes down to it, you can probably take care of most of your doctors' bills on your own...you don't go that often anyway.

That being said, you have a health insurance deduction from your paycheck every pay period to cover your insurance premium. It'd sure be nice to be able to pocket that money instead, but it's nice to know that the health coverage is there in case you need it.

You're getting a little older and you're body's getting a little more worn down than it used to be. After years of your knee bugging you (old football injury), you decide to go to the doctor to see what's going on. The doctor tells you the cartilage in your knee has virtually disintegrated over the years. He suggests surgery.

You call your insurance to inquire about setting up the procedure, but they told you you're not covered. Why? Well because you've made it thus far without having the procedure done, and besides, you can afford to pay for the procedure anyway.

Where's the love? Private school parents are still paying...and the majority of them aren't drawing from the funds. Why shouldn't the few who area asking for assistance get it?

After talking to the NCC people Bellevue dropped them...................

Hmm...that's interesting.

 

Who was the last public High School team to beat either Trinity or St. X? Just curious.

 

I know Dixie, yes, Dixie beat Trinity in 2004, and Male beat St. X in 2006.

I have a few questions I want to make sure I am clear on;

 

1. The KHSAA is the governing body over high school sports?

 

2. In order to be a member of the KHSAA you have to agree to their set of Bylaws and pay a membership fee?

 

3. There are board members on the KHSAA board from private and public schools?

 

4. Every member school has one vote on rule changes?

 

5. They changed the rule to 25% makes you unable to play?

 

6. The family is upset because their child can not play high school sports because they receive scholarship money?

 

7. Attending private school is a choice of this family?

 

8. They can give the money up and their child can play?

 

Okay Now unless I have mis-read some of the article, some of the post in this thread, and the bylaws of the KHSAA. the answer to these 8 questions is all YES.

 

So if I look at these questions the parents need to blame themselves for their child not playing. See the world is about choices.

 

They choose to attend a private school.

They choose to accept money to attend school.

 

So if you want to play you need to make the right CHOICE and pay your own way. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

A couple of quick points to make...

1) Your "questions" were in fact statements made with question marks at the end instead of periods.

2) I am not complaining about the KHSAA at all - they really do a great job. However, as a rebuttal to your first & second "questions": the KHSAA is the only managing body over Kentucky high school athletics, and if a school wants to compete in high school athletics, they effectively have to join or else they're out of luck. Therefore, the schools join the KHSAA.

3) In response to your third, fourth and fifth "questions", check the KHSAA membership directory...there are more public schools than private schools. The voting is pretty obviously going to tend towards benefiting public schools...not that any public school athletic director would ever try to stick it to a private school (please note my sarcasm).

4) In response to your sixth and seventh "questions", yes, your statements were correct. The punctuation, however, was incorrect.

5) In response to your eighth "question", I ask you this: Wouldn't you be upset had you worked your butt off and received a scholarship to a private university...let's say, the University of Notre Dame...but then you were completely barred from trying to walk on with any of their athletic teams? I know I certainly would be. This is essentially the same situation. Think about it.