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Rules Question: You Make the Call!

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Curious. So, apparently he corrected his "mistake". But, I'm wondering how long does this ability go? If he would've done it immediately (during that changeover) I could understand it. (I'm assuming that once the defense leaves the field, they lose their ability to appeal any plays.) However, suddenly awarding a team a run later in the game can change the whole scope of the game itself...whether that's an inning later, or especially several innings later. You will play the game differently if you're a run down, tied, or a run ahead. I can't imagine the chaos this would've caused if it had been a tie game, in the bottom of the ninth, and he suddenly comes out and gives a run to the home team and says "Game over"!

 

There's a difference between an "appeal" and correcting an error made by the umpires.

 

I'm not sure there is a standard as to when you can change the score due to an umpire not enforcing a rule properly.

Run does not count. An appeal play is considered a force-out and a run cannot score on a force play to end the inning.

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Run does not count. An appeal play is considered a force-out and a run cannot score on a force play to end the inning.

 

An appeal play is not considered a forceout.

 

The run counts if they fail only appeal the runner on 2B.

Run does not count. An appeal play is considered a force-out and a run cannot score on a force play to end the inning.

 

As Clyde correctly stated, an appeal play is not a force out. What you may be thinking about is an appeal play at first base. If the batter is called out on an appeal at 1B (for instance, for missing the base), then he has never legally acquired first base. If this was the third out of the inning, then any runs that scored on that play would not count.

1. R3 ran from third to home and actually touched the plate.

2. Out of baseline only comes into play when someone is trying to make a play on a runner. He could have ran zig zags to home as long as he wasn't trying to avoid being tagged.

 

R3 can't leave the field of play in the middle of a play. This play is not over because r3 didn't tag. He runs himself out of the play. Maybe running out of the baseline is the incorrect rule, but there is no way that run counts.

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R3 can't leave the field of play in the middle of a play. This play is not over because r3 didn't tag. He runs himself out of the play. Maybe running out of the baseline is the incorrect rule, but there is no way that run counts.

 

My man, the run counts.

 

I don't know what you mean by "leave the field of play."

 

He ran from 3B to home and touched the plate. How is the leaving the field of play?

Okay, I read the rule book and it looks like:

 

Based on rule 7:08A-2, r2 is out instantly because he cut through the infield without making an effort to retouch the base. No need to appeal that.

 

Rule 7:08d says that you must appeal r3 at third, so you can appeal and run is off the board.

 

Maybe I am interpreting incorrectly, but that is my reading of the rules.

My man, the run counts.

 

I don't know what you mean by "leave the field of play."

 

He ran from 3B to home and touched the plate. How is the leaving the field of play?

 

I was thinking that he is out heading toward the dugout because r3 is leaving the field of play even though he didn't tag. Rules say there must be an appeal, though.

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I was thinking that he is out heading toward the dugout because r3 is leaving the field of play even though he didn't tag. Rules say there must be an appeal, though.

 

Correct. If there's no appeal and he touched home plate it doesn't matter that he didn't tag. Its just like if he missed a base. If no one appeals its all good.

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