This is a very strange discussion.

Knox Central was the best team of the four through much of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s.

Knox Central was supposed to win this year. They did.

LC has won the last 5 meetings with Whitley County I wouldn't call that not wanting to play. Whitley has a nice team. The series ended when Deaton was coach and didn't reschedule the cats. Hopefully, they can revive the series.

This is a very strange discussion.

Knox Central was the best team of the four through much of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s.

Knox Central was supposed to win this year. They did.

 

Not really, HDE. Just pointing out that tradition is something to hang your hat on, but it does not translate into a single point today. Take Kentucky basketball for example. We are on an uptick, but the kids leading the charge cannot even remember our real recent heyday. They are winning because they are talented, period.

Talent doesn't always mean you win. I think we all agree that Lynn Camp had the most talent of all the Class A teams in the region this year.

 

Why didn't they win?

Mostly: poor defense. Bottom line for this group of Wildcats.

 

Score a lot of points but give up more.

Near the top in the region in points scored, near the very bottom in points allowed. That will get you beat many times. That is why, HDE.

But then that is a tradition.

Tradition over talent.

?????

I still disagree that tradition trumps talent, but everybody will have their own opinion on it. Like I said, if you want to make a case for tradition over talent, I'll be seeing you at the 2011 BCS title game of Harvard vs Yale or Army vs Navy. The gridiron tradition of these institutions is beyond argument, but by your argument they are still powerhouses over the talented Florida, Ohio State and USC teams. Same for Temple, Seattle and NYU in basketball. Tradition is nice, but talent is better. Sometimes you get both and it is great.

I don't get the Harvard-Yale points. That was 70 years ago. Very few people remember that tradition. No one is talking about the 1930s.

 

Ohio State and USC were powerhouses 30 years ago and still are very good.

 

Do you have tradition if you've been bad for the past 30 years or so? You HAD tradition, but you no longer HAVE it in those cases.

DADDY CAT,

 

In watching Lynn Camp the past couple of years, I've been very impressed with what Coach Pennington has done with the program. If nothing else, they're very exciting and fun to watch. They play with a lot of energy, shoot the deep ball well, and have defeated some teams that have superior talent to them over the past few years.

 

However, as bad as I hate to say it, Lynn Camp is just very undisciplined. They don't play very good defense, they shoot wild, unnecessary shots and are very prone to reaching fouls.

 

It's a credit to them and their program for beating the likes of Knox Central and other 13th Region powers of recent years, but the truth is when you play the undisciplined style that Lynn Camp has committed to play, you're going to win some games you shouldn't win but you're also vulnerable to lose games you should win. And they certainly have lost several of those the past few years including this year's 13th Region All 'A' Classic where they clearly should have made the trip to McBrayer as a good, quality 13th Region Representative.

No one gave a timetable on tradition. The OLD football references are sarcasm aimed at the tradition argument. You took the tradition side back almost 50 years in post #16 on here. I'll let it all go with the fact that talent wins the games, tradition is window dressing most of the time. It is fun to have and look back on, but the guys in uniform NOW have to be able to play to back that tradition up.

 

We (LC) do not have the winning tradition that many speak of. BUT:

 

That is not what got us booted out of the tourney. Bad Defense and less points than KC is what beat us. No ghosts from the 60's, No "Win One For The Gipper" theatrics, No local legends from days gone by showing up in the locker room and pushing the kids to victory.

 

Athletes got beat by athletes that were better that night. Period. Talent trumped talent.

 

 

 

 

I agree with you, UKFan8. They are fun to watch and P has made them dangerous when they are hitting on all cylinders. The Wildcats hold themselves back quite a bit. I have seen them come back from over 20 points down to have a chance to win many times and start playing not so smart ball again and cost themselves some remarkable comeback wins. I have also saw them come back from huge deficits and win while under control. If they could find some consistency they would be a very dangerous team.

 

I love the offense that Coach P runs, I just wish that the D could find itself.